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[quote name='wstrnrdr' timestamp='1353990184' post='851157']
WOWWW! Race, national origion,asylums, lobotomies, mental capabilities, wheel chairs, security gaurds, and even a Congalese court.
Accusations,insults, and innuendo.
Seems even moderators are getting heated on this topic.
[color=#FF0000]I thought the mods job was to moderate, keep threads decent and on track[/color].
Someone was right, I need more popcorn and a bg gulp.
Seriously dissapointed in the tone and direction or the lack of direction on this thread.
Maybe at this point the thread should be closed and everyone wait and get the actual fact of
a proposed bill and see the actual content. Then maybe the real merits or lack of merits
might possibly be debated.
I see very little legit pros or cons being discussed.
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We have opinions to and just like you we like to express them. Just because we are moderators doesn't mean we have to be mindless, emotionless zombies. When things get out of hand the members are pretty good about reporting it when it goes over the line and then we address it.

This is a hot issue, not only here but across the state. And with anything people are passionate about things do get a bit heated.

Dolomite
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[quote name='GKar' timestamp='1353996434' post='85117]...how do you handle co-location of property of different ownership...
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Well, I am no lawyer nor am I any kind of legal expert but it seems to me like that should be a pretty simple issue to solve. To my mind, the 'boundaries' would work just like any other property boundaries. In this case, for instance, the exterior surface of a person's vehicle would constitute the 'boundary line' so that anything inside that boundary is in protected, private space.
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[quote name='Dolomite_supafly' timestamp='1354018150' post='851208']
We have opinions to and just like you we like to express them. Just because we are moderators doesn't mean we have to be mindless, emotionless zombies. When things get out of hand the members are pretty good about reporting it when it goes over the line and then we address it.

This is a hot issue, not only here but across the state. And with anything people are passionate about things do get a bit heated.

Dolomite
[/quote]You mean you guys [b]aren't[/b] mindless, emotionless zombies??? :taunt:

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[quote name='JayC' timestamp='1353679229' post='849735']
Ok fair enough... Find me a single test case then... There has to be a single person on this forum who can't have a firearm stored in their vehicle at work, and they are forced to be unarmed.

You say show you the harm to the business... and I say that isn't the way our laws are supposed to work... We're supposed to allow people (even the people who run businesses) to be free unless their is a strict need of the community that can not be solved any other way.

So show me a single person that is being harmed by not having this law passed... Show me a single adult that is forced to disarm at a private business...

If there are such people, then this law might make sense... [b]but I contend you can't find a single case.[/b]

This is a law to make a special interest group (permit holders) to be able to avoid making hard choices about their safety and their income, and has nothing to do with freedom.
[/quote]Umm, I am forced to disarm to travel to work because my employer's parking lot is the only parking available, and my employer specifically prohibits ANY weapons on the property.
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[quote name='JAB' timestamp='1354040912' post='851427']


Well, I am no lawyer nor am I any kind of legal expert but it seems to me like that should be a pretty simple issue to solve. To my mind, the 'boundaries' would work just like any other property boundaries. In this case, for instance, the exterior surface of a person's vehicle would constitute the 'boundary line' so that anything inside that boundary is in protected, private space.
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Pretty much my thoughts as well, which the proposed bill did in essence. Others dont agree...
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