Was the 2012 Election Stolen?

[QuietDan]

There's always some voter fraud in an election, but seldom are their allegations of industrial-strength "Chicago Style" voter fraud corruption on such a massive scale:

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[size=5][size=6][b]Was the 2012 Election Stolen?[/b]
[size=5][b]By[/b] [url="http://www.americanthinker.com/selwyn_duke/"][b]Selwyn Duke[/b][/url][/size][/size]

[font=times new roman,times]As the 2012 election approached, conservative enthusiasm grew. Mitt Romney was drawing huge crowds while Barack Obama spoke in half-filled stadiums. All the passion lay on the right while the left was discouraged with a promised messiah who proved merely a politician. And the prediction was that, in contrast to 2008, Republican turnout would dwarf the tuned-out and carry the day. Hence the shock November 6 eve. How could Romney lose, especially by such a wide electoral margin?[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Maybe he didn't[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]At least not legitimately.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]When I [/font][url="http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwyndukecom/2012/10/will-vote-fraud-win-the-election-for-obama.html"][font=times new roman,times]predicted Obama's re-election[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times], I stated that, despite our country's inexorable leftist slide, Romney would still win on Election Day were it not for vote fraud. I explained that the Democrats could steal more than enough votes in crucial swing states to turn the election. And I still believe what I did then: electoral criminality put Obama over the top.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]At the time, we heard stories about [/font][url="http://myfox8.com/2012/10/23/guilford-county-voters-say-they-voted-for-the-wrong-candidate/"][font=times new roman,times]electronic-machine "glitches"[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] switching Romney votes to Obama ones. And Patrick Moran, son of Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA), was [/font][url="http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/video-captures-dem-campaign-chief-plotting-vote-fraud/"][font=times new roman,times]caught on tape[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] facilitating vote fraud while Bridgeport, CT mayor Bill Finch essentially [/font][url="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/connecticut-dem-jokes-about-corruption_654445.html"][font=times new roman,times]promised[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] to commit same for a political partner in crime. [/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Since then, the indications of electoral criminality have been overwhelming. First there are the anecdotes, such as the court-appointed Republican poll watchers illegally expelled from 13 Philadelphia polling places in wards that, in most cases, went 99 percent for Obama; the poll observers who noted what they considered vote fraud but were powerless to stop; and the Democrats who actually [/font][url="http://www.examiner.com/article/fraud-some-told-they-already-voted-others-brag-about-voting-multiple-times"][font=times new roman,times]bragged about[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] voting more than once.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Then there are the statistics, such as [/font][url="http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20121112_In_59_Philadelphia_voting_wards__Mitt_Romney_got_zero_votes.html"][font=times new roman,times]this[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] staggering fact: in 59 Philadelphia districts, Romney failed to get [i]even one vote[/i]. Final Obama-Romney tally: 19,605 to 0.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Huh? Not even one person voted GOP accidentally? I mean, there even was a Washington, D.C. councilman who inadvertently voted to approve faux marriage, [/font][url="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Confused-Barry-Asks-for-Same-Sex-Marriage-Vote-Back.html"][font=times new roman,times]saying[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] that he didn't know what he was voting for (that would be Marion Barry).[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Next, consider [/font][url="http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/16/voter-rolls-in-ohio-are-bloated-experts-say.html"][font=times new roman,times]this report[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] from [i]The Columbus Dispatch[/i]: [/font][/size]
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[size=5][font=times new roman,times]More than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote.[/font][/size][/indent]
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[size=5][font=times new roman,times]In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population: Northwestern Ohio's Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River it's a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Another 31 counties show registrations at more than 90 percent of those eligible, a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts. The national average is a little more than 70 percent.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times][...]Of the Buckeye State's 7.8 million registered voters, nearly 1.6 million are regarded as "inactive."[/font][/size][/indent]

[size=5][font=times new roman,times]Understand the significance. Years ago I was [/font][url="http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/08/democrats_and_deep_vote_fraud.html"][font=times new roman,times]contacted[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] by a Washington, D.C. community leader (who'll remain anonymous) who told me that he had "done some computer work for several candidates over the years in DC" and had conducted his own study of urban vote fraud. He said that inner cities' great transiency ensures that any given large metropolis will have a great number of voters who no longer live in their precinct of registration. These areas also have Democrat operatives known by the get-out-the-vote term "block captains" or "apartment captains," people who know the lay of the land and thus what registered voters have left town. So all they need do then is vote for these people or have others do so. This is very easy, too, with few voter-ID laws. And this is why Democrats oppose these laws so vehemently.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Now consider that Obama "won" Ohio by 100,000 votes. This means that to flip the state, Democrat surrogates had to illegally "activate" only [i]6.25 percent[/i] of its 1.6 million inactive voters.[/font][/size]

[size=5][font=times new roman,times]Note also that Ohio secretary of state Jon Husted did ask Eric Holder's DOJ for help negotiating conflicting federal laws pertaining to the purging ineligible voters from the rolls. The DOJ's ultimate response? "No comment."[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Yet a voter doesn't even have to be inactive, just disengaged. For example, when the aforementioned Patrick Moran offered advice on surrogate voting, he told an undercover reporter to masquerade as a pollster and call a targeted individual to make sure he wasn't planning to vote. And this is nothing new. In fact, liberal leg-thriller Chris Matthews himself [/font][url="http://spectator.org/blog/2012/06/27/did-chris-matthews-participate"][font=times new roman,times]admitted[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] that it has been going on for years.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Then there is the case of the missing military ballots. As Rachel Alexander at [i]Town Hall [/i][/font][url="http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud/page/2"][font=times new roman,times]reported[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times]:[/font][/size]


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[size=5][font=times new roman,times]The conservative-leaning military vote has [/font][url="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/01/military-ballot-requests-down-in-key-battleground-states/"][font=times new roman,times]decreased[/font][/url][font=times new roman,times] drastically since 2010 due to the so-called Military Voter Protection Act that was enacted into law the year before. It has made it so difficult for overseas military personnel to obtain absentee ballots that in Virginia and Ohio there has been a 70% decrease in requests for ballots since 2008. In Virginia, almost 30,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots than in 2008. In Ohio, more than 20,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots. This is significant considering Obama won in both states by a little over 100,000 votes.[/font][/size][/indent]

[size=5][font=times new roman,times]Frankly, it is inconceivable that military interest in voting could've dropped so drastically given conservatives' passion this election season. The damning conclusion? The Obama machine wants our soldiers to shed blood while it sheds their votes.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Striking as all this is, however, it's likely just a partial picture. As with all crime, it's a given that the discovered vote fraudsters represent only a tiny percentage of the total. And what about vote-fraud methods we haven't even thought of yet? Remember, the Democrats have been honing this act for many, many years.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]And vote fraud is Democrat domain. Liberals are the situational-values set, people who for years insisted that right and wrong is relative and that if it feels good, do it. And what feels good to them at election time is stealing votes to win - and they do it. They relish it, in fact. Like the liberal who addressed Bill Clinton's it-depends-on-what-is-is infidelity and adamantly told me, "He did the [i]right[/i] thing," leftists love the con. To pull a fast one like private eye Jim Rockford, fool everyone, and get away with it is like winning the Nobel Prize in Prevarication in their world. Thus, it's assured that there's no small number of liberals who are currently brimming with pride at having negated the votes of countless knuckle-dragging conservatives. [/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Having said this, we can't be sure about the exact magnitude of the vote fraud. But my judgment is this:[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]The election was likely stolen. [/font]

[font=times new roman,times]And whatever Barack Obama is presently, I don't believe he will be a legitimate president come January 20.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]This is why Congressman Allen West was right not to concede his Florida race. And, frankly, if Romney believes that the election may have been stolen nationally, he should withdraw his concession.[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Radical?[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Unprecedented?[/font]

[font=times new roman,times]Yes, but so is vote fraud on the scale perpetrated by Obama's minions. And people needn't fear creating a national crisis - [i]we are already in a national crisis[/i]. The only question is whether good Americans will stand and be counted or allow 2012 to mark our official descent into banana-republic status.[/font]

Read more: [url="http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_2012_election_stolen.html#ixzz2C7ai2lA3"]http://www.americant...l#ixzz2C7ai2lA3[/url][/size] Edited November 13, 2012 by QuietDan

[gjohnsoniv]

Both sides do it, and what's going to happen about this? Nothing.

[personDJ]

My My My Give it up.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Saying both sides do it is a drastic
over generalized statement and if
you think you can add up a few cases
of one side to broad cases like this
one possibly to rationalize this away,
you may be part of the problem.

It needs to be stopped when there is
evidence, using law, not letting it go
using generalization.


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Good article, Dan. Thanks! Edited November 13, 2012 by 6.8 AR

[Dolomite_supafly]

Republicans and conservatives tend to be law abiding while liberals do not have a problem cheating. We have seen it time and time again. Yes both sides cheat but the ratio is not 1 to 1.

Dolomite

[Guest dfsixstring]

In Plato's book, "The Republic", he asks Socrates to describe the "five stages of government".
"...the truth being that the excessive increase of anything often causes a
reaction in the opposite direction; and this is the case not only in the seasons
and in vegetable and animal life, but above all in forms of government.
True.
The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems only to
pass into excess of slavery.
Yes, the natural order.
And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy, and the most
aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme form of
liberty?
As we might expect."
Keep in mind that "every" form of government has fallen into this schema throughout the ages - thus far. These 5 forms of government are as follows (see where we fit now):[list=1]
[*]The Aristocracy - the good and wise leaders. Those that sacrifice personal gain for the overall good of the nation.
[*]The Timocracy - Warriors rule, but the moneyed class is empowered. This is compared to those famous that desire the power of politics and government. In this state - property is coveted more than the good of the state. Ambition for self replaces ambition for the state. Citizens will become overly obedient to the state.
[*]Oligarchy - As wealth grows in importance, its presence is needed in order to rule. The guardians of the state are ALL wealthy and two classes appear - the rich and the poor. People will break the law for wealth. Wealth causes the masses to leave virtue behind - in search of riches. Crime increases and the people seek the state to provide the safety that greed has taken away.
[*]Democracy - leaders are chosen by the casting of lots (voting). Socrates says of the Democratic state:
"This, then, seems likely to be the fairest of States, being an embroidered robe which is spangled
with every sort of flower. And just as women and children think a variety of colours to be of
all things most charming, so there are many men to whom this State, which is spangled with
the manners and characters of mankind, will appear to be the fairest of States."
and further expounds:
"The ruin of oligarchy is the ruin of democracy; the same disease magnified and intensified by
liberty overmasters democracy --the truth being that the excessive increase of anything often
causes a reaction in the opposite direction; and this is the case not only in the seasons and in
vegetable and animal life, but above all in forms of government.

The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems only to pass into excess of
slavery.

And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and
slavery out of the most extreme form of liberty?"
[*]Tyranny - The wretchedest form of government, and the rule of a king...the happiest.
"No city, he said, can be more completely enslaved.

And yet, as you see, there are freemen as well as masters in such a State?

Yes, he said, I see that there are--a few; but the people, speaking generally, and the best of them, are miserably degraded and enslaved.

Then if the man is like the State, I said, must not the same rule prevail? his soul is full of meanness and vulgarity--the best elements in him are enslaved; and there is a small ruling part, which is also the worst and maddest.

Inevitably.

And would you say that the soul of such an one is the soul of a freeman, or of a slave?

He has the soul of a slave, in my opinion.

And the State which is enslaved under a tyrant is utterly incapable of acting voluntarily?

Utterly incapable."
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[leroy]

I can assure you that there was cheating in pennsylvania, ohio, and florida. The trick is to look for a couple of percentage points difference, max. The pennsylvania state court ruling on the voter id law plus the usual thuggery in philadelphia tilted pennsylvania. Ohio wuz probably the usual union rat thing. Florida. You know the answer to that.

Interesting read on state voting requirements here: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/State_by_State_Voter_ID_Laws.
Take a look at the precentages here: http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/results/president

leroy

[daddyo]

Liberals believe that the end justifies the means. They have proven this time and time again. So why would we think they would not try to keep Obama in office through nefarious methods?

[Guest dfsixstring]

I do find it interesting that Liberals tend to have this mindset ("the end justifies the means" - situational ethics). These are all Machiavellian traits in order to fool the simple into accepting the original wishes of the one in charge. You cause healthcare costs to skyrocket so that you can make your socialistic healthcare more palatable to your constituents. You cut off oil production to run the price of crude so high that everyone begs for a government solution to the problem. Just remember, with every government solution to your problems - a piece of your liberty is gone.

It isn't the hidden corruption in the electoral process that will bring this country to its knees, it is the gross corruption before our eyes that we should be worried about. Frankly, I believe we've seen our last Republican president with GWB. The only caveat to that would if the GOP caved in and became as willing as the dems to give handouts to all of the minorities out there. But then, would it be the GOP if it acted like the dems? I'd given up on the GOP back in 2008. If the GOP couldn't beat this sorry president (lower-case "P") in this terrible economy with all of the corruption and mismanagement of Libya - they have no chance of ever regaining power.

Sorry to be such a downer.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That old trick of beating one side to the punch by saying "they're gonna say we cheated", when in fact that
may be the case, is part of the problem. We have get away from allowing it to be the narrative. Sure, this is
political, but does that make it right to do what has probably happened?

I appreciate the copying the part of "The Republic". That is the reason we are supposed to have a very limited
government, and keep it in check. I imagine the Founders read it, too, along with realizing that once government
gets a grip on a large part of the citizenry, it can grow itself to complete tyranny. We have been allowing this
problem to fester for far too long and it won't be easy to fix it. I think the very first thing that has to be done is
expose the fraud for what it is, instead of joining in the narrative of the opposition by rationalizing it away every
time.
I'll look for that link again, the one that George Soros bought one of the electric voting tally companies because
I am sure he had a lot to do with this, along with his SOS program(secretary of state). The SOS in Florida, within
thirty minutes, found four thousand votes that put Allen West's election in peril. That was the same number of
ballots already counted once. How many times do you count a damned ballot?

This stuff has to stop.

[leroy]

Check this out: [url="http://moonbattery.com/?p=20985"]http://moonbattery.com/?p=20985[/url]

And this: http://www.rightwingnews.com/democrats/romneys-presidential-hopes-dashed-by-less-than-500000-votes/

leroy Edited November 13, 2012 by leroy

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Both good articles, Leroy.

[mcurrier]

[quote name='DaddyO' timestamp='1352836799' post='844935']
Liberals believe that the end justifies the means. They have proven this time and time again. So why would we think they would not try to keep Obama in office through nefarious methods?
[/quote]

Not just proven it, but said as much. And...stated their admiration and affection for people like Trotsky, Marx, Castro, etc.

[Smith]

Problem is there aren't enough that care about values. If Benghazi didn't bring down massive elements of the administration, Fast and Furious didn't lead to prison sentences, or Obama care lead to state revolts - this won't matter.
Was it stolen? I wouldn't go that far.No doubt there was massive cheating from the libs as usual, but that is just a continuation of the symptoms of socialism. Going after this issue is like tyring to cure an HIV patient by treating their flu symptoms.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

[quote name='dfsixstring' timestamp='1352833252' post='844905']

Tyranny - The wretchedest form of government, and the rule of a king...the happiest.[list=1]
[*] "No city, he said, can be more completely enslaved.

And yet, as you see, there are freemen as well as masters in such a State?

Yes, he said, I see that there are--a few; but the people, speaking generally, and the best of them, are miserably degraded and enslaved.

Then if the man is like the State, I said, must not the same rule prevail? his soul is full of meanness and vulgarity--the best elements in him are enslaved; and there is a small ruling part, which is also the worst and maddest.

Inevitably.

And would you say that the soul of such an one is the soul of a freeman, or of a slave?

He has the soul of a slave, in my opinion.

And the State which is enslaved under a tyrant is utterly incapable of acting voluntarily?

Utterly incapable."
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[/quote]
The one thing different from Plato and Socrates' exchange from then to now is, we know what is going
on and, if we did our homework, we can get away from what we call "mob rule" or democracy.

With all the states rumbling words of secession, all of a sudden, we can get it right and throw out all this
nonsense from the one percenter minority and the Santa Claus mentality. It will happen. I just hope it is
done through the justice system, or Congress. We may have to wait on Harry Reid's departure, and that
will be a painful two years, but Obama will have to be impeached.

Otherwise, I'd be happy to live in Galt's Gulch and work for Midas Mulligan. Capitalism is a far happier
place to live in than this welfare state.

[Guest dfsixstring]

Think about this, for "convenience" we agreed to let congress "take" our taxes out automatically instead of each of us sending them in quarterly. This accomplished two things (at least) - 1) We, the People could no longer refuse to fund the government, 2) we no longer feel the pain and disdain for a wasteful government with our money. Some even view their tax refund as a "gift" from Uncle Sam. We deserve what we get and I fear it is too late.


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