Rifle Gunfighting Tunica MS March 9-10 2013

[Cruel Hand Luke]

For you west Tennessee TGO members looking to get some top quality rifle trainig, I will be offering the Suarez International Rifle Gunfighting Class in Tunica Mississippi in March.


March 9-10, 2013
RIFLE GUNFIGHTING
Tunica, Mississippi
Instructor: Randy Harris
Price $450

Rifle confrontations worldwide rarely exceed 25 yards. Rather than a long range marksman's weapon, our research shows the rifle will most likely be used just outside the reach of more conventional weapons, as well as within these closer intervals of confrontation.

This course will take the student quickly through the basics and impart the techniques necessary to deploy the Tactical Rifle, Civilian Carbine, or Submachine gun in a close interval emergency.This course is highly recommended for civilian defenders, military personnel, or police operators (we make no distinction in the material presented).
DURATION:2 days

TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (CST)

PREREQUISITES: NONE

AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 rounds (Minimum) and 100 rounds of pistol ammunition

YOU NEED TO BRING:
Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape)

REQUIREMENTS:
Rifle (Any action or caliber suitable for use within 50 yards), all weapons must be equipped with a sling, also bring a pistol with at least (2) magazines, belt, holster, magazine pouches, rifle ammo pouches,Ear & Eye protection (knee and elbow pads are strongly suggested)

LOCATION:
The Willows at Harrah's Resort and Casino
13615 Old Highway 61 North
Robinsonville, MS 3866
662-357-3154
NOTE: Meet at the range office on the first day at 9am CST
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Edited February 27, 2013 by Cruel Hand Luke

[Stegall Law Firm]

Intriguing. I will keep this in mind. I have a couple questions, purely out of curiosity and probably some ignorance: why the 500-ish round count? I like the idea because it probably lends itself to more efficient training. But compared to say TR, which advises 1500 and seems excessive, I'd just like to know the reason behind it.

Also, what is your research for concluding the close proximity of rifle fights? I don't doubt its veracity, just like to know what data you used. AARs and such?

[Cruel Hand Luke]

As to the round count, my own personal opinion is that there is a fine line between shooting enough to work the skills and shooting so much that all you are doing is taking up time making noise.A high round count is an easy way to hide deficiencies in curriculum.There are those who subscribe tp the idea of "If you run out of things to teach...just have 'em shoot more". On the other hand if we are teaching a class on how to lower your split times in an IPSC match, then yes a 4 digit round count is useful. On the other hand you can shoot on your own time. You come to class to learn to shoot better sure, but also to learn how to run the rifle (which amazingly enough does not require it to go BANG everytime), and to learn tactics and strategy . But the gun actually going BANG is just the last part of a chain of events.

And there is actually a diminishing returns on number of rounds fired. There is a "sweet spot" in number of rounds where you are shooting enough to "get it" and then there is shooting so much that all you are doing is "more of the same". There is a lot more to it than just shooting. To steal a line from someone else...."most people spend 95% of their time working on the last 5% of the solution." I think a better use of your time is to look at the first 95% in context and then have a better grasp of the last 5%.

As to the distance in combat, Gabe did the research on that. It has been a generally accepted maxim since the early 90s when I got into it that rifle engagements are typically 50 meters or less. They actually taught us that in ROTC. The days of trench warfare and 800 yard volley fire had been over since 1918, no one was engaging each other across the plains of Europe, and the Soviets never rolled through the Fulda gap. What was being seen was jungle and urban fighting in SE Asia, South America, Africa, and the Middle East. None of that was involving 600 meter shots unless you consider snipers who are a very specailized combat tool. But on that subject lets look at real live bad ass steely eyed death dealing snipers like Vasily Zaytsev and what the typical distance he shot Germans at in Stalingrad......well under 100 meters. Mechanized warfare in built up areas in the late 20th and early 21st century (OTHER THAN AFGHANISTAN) did not require a lot of CMP style marksmanship. It required more fire and manuever at ranges generally under 100 yards.

Now lets spin it back around to 99.99% of the people reading this. In civilian USA what is the typical police sniper shot? About 50 yards. That is PISTOL range for some people. How big is your yard? How long is the longest shot you can take in your house? How far will you actually be taking a shot at someone who is assaulting you? How are you going to articulate in court a 225 yard shot ? What scenario do you REALLY see yourself actually engaging someone at distances over 50 yards? I'm not saying it CAN'T happen, I'm saying it is very unlikely in civlian world and in military world it is not super common either in urban areas, wooded areas , or jungle.

Short of a straight up "end of the world as we know it" scenario, we as civilians will be far more likely to use a rifle at less than 25 yards than we will be to ever use it at more than 25 yards. As such we need to put a premium on cover (because getting behind things that stop bullets is good for you) , movement (because not being in front of their muzzle is good for you) manipulations (because all that time you are taking to fidgit with your gun is time the gun is out of the fight), and learning what is "fast and good enough" vs "slow and perfect". Fast good enough hits beat slow perfect hits. If you are still lining up the shot after he has shot you twice then your accurate shots will never get sent to him. On the other hand fast misses rarely advance your cause. So we learn perfection...and then step away from it as necessary. At 25 yards or less....perfection is rarely needed with a rifle.

I hope that kind of anwers some of your question. A 2 minute discussion can take 10 pages to type and I'm trying to keep it short and readable. I'd love to discuss it with you in class!

[Stegall Law Firm]

Thanks for sharing your views. That makes a lot of sense.

[Cruel Hand Luke]

Just a reminder, this class is about a month out and we are already about half full. You might not want to wait until the last minute for this one. 

This will be the first Suarez Int class in Mississippi and is very close to the Memphis/ tri state area. So if you have been waiting for a rifle class that teaches you how to best fight with YOUR rifle and YOUR gear, not how someone's SWAT team or some military unit did it 10 years ago, then this is the class for you. 

Looking forward to seeing you there!!!!!!!

[Stegall Law Firm]

It says 450 on the website but 400 in your post. Was that just a typo on your part?

[Cruel Hand Luke]

We were running a sale up until Jan 1 that was $50 off on all 2013 classes signed up for before Jan 1.

 

I apparently never did edit it here after the 1st.