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Interesting read here:
[url="http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=29551&pst=1645564"]http://www.care2.com...551&pst=1645564[/url]

He has agreed to be interviewed by the Senate and House committees, now, but away from the Capitol.
I think he is afraid of visiting Fort Darcy Park in the afternoon.

Another one here:
[url="http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-real-reason-petraeus-resigned/"]http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-real-reason-petraeus-resigned/[/url] Edited by 6.8 AR
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[quote name='Spook' timestamp='1352907234' post='845454']
I believe it had Consulate status rather than just a temporary "diplomatic outpost." ...[/quote]

Yes, you are correct that is was a consulate designation, but seems likely to only have been set in that location more in support of the CIA's covert arms mission than to aid US citizens. A tourist mecca it ain't. :)

The degree to which it was planned to be permanent is moot, since it's not there now at all.

- OS

Guest Lester Weevils
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Given that I am drastically worse-informed than mere total ignorance of military and secret-squirrel double-naught spy matters-- A captain obvious realization-- That the potential blackmail hazard of extramarital affairs was in this case proven/actualized when the POTUS blackmailed the CIA director? :)

A super-dumb question-- Was Petraeus still active military or had he gone inactive before taking up at the CIA? Just curious if he is at hazard of them screwing with his pension bennies should they so desire?

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[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352927370' post='845687']

Yes, you are correct that is was a consulate designation, but seems likely to only have been set in that location more in support of the CIA's covert arms mission than to aid US citizens.
- OS[/quote]

The Ambassador was being briefed by folks there on the program to track down certain arms, not provide any. We ain't arming nobody there; fairly certain we never did.
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[quote name='Lester Weevils' timestamp='1352940465' post='845809']
Given that I am drastically worse-informed than mere total ignorance of military and secret-squirrel double-naught spy matters-- A captain obvious realization-- That the potential blackmail hazard of extramarital affairs was in this case proven/actualized when the POTUS blackmailed the CIA director? :)

A super-dumb question-- Was Petraeus still active military or had he gone inactive before taking up at the CIA? Just curious if he is at hazard of them screwing with his pension bennies should they so desire?
[/quote]

It's a blackmail hazard to be gay or be caught effing around on your wife or with someone else's wife, even though the bastards in government say it's ok to be gay, and doesn't everybody lie about sex -- but they only say that when YOU try to screw with THEM and not when THEY are trying to screw with SOMEONE ELSE.

The school is still out on the screwing with his rank and his pension front.

General Petraeus retired from the Army so he could take the CIA Director job. His old Army people are on record stating that he stated that the physical affair didn't start until he was at the CIA, lasted two months, and then ended . . . four (?) months ago. The UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) Adultery provisions don't apply because he wasn't on active duty.

And, usually, Adultery is usually just a secondary charge on some larger charge, like you don't get charged driving without a seat-belt unless you were stopped and charged for speeding.

However, some folks also say that Four Star General's never really retire -- they sort of get "Advanced to the Retired List." The nation can, and sometimes does, call them back onto active duty.

But, you can't get called back on to active duty just to get charged with something you did as a civilian, they let the civil court system handle it. But you can't get jail time for adultery as a civilian.

But, this is all Political, and that skinny bastard in the White House might choose to #### with him anyways.

I hope this is clear, with the back and forthing and all.

Edited by QuietDan
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[quote name='TMF' timestamp='1352940696' post='845812']
The Ambassador was being briefed by folks there on the program to track down certain arms, not provide any. ...[/quote]

Think we're doing that at the behest of the current Libyan government, such as it is?

- OS
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[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352927370' post='845687']


Yes, you are correct that is was a consulate designation, but seems likely to only have been set in that location more in support of the CIA's covert arms mission than to aid US citizens. A tourist mecca it ain't. :)

The degree to which it was planned to be permanent is moot, since it's not there now at all.

- OS
[/quote]

Would be far from the first time that a facility was established without true diplomatic purpose. That said, our two countries were trying to expand such and if not attacked would still be there. We'll be back there in time I feel certain... for whatever reason.

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[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352946025' post='845857']

Think we're doing that at the behest of the current Libyan government, such as it is?

- OS[/quote]

Of course not. We don't need thousands of manpads making their way around the middle east into the hands of folks that won't hesitate to use them on airliners.
Guest Lester Weevils
Posted
Thanks much for the explanation, QuietDan.
Posted (edited)
[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352865994' post='845270']
....That wasn't even an embassy, just a temporary "diplomatic outpost", for whatever reasons.
[/quote]
[quote name='Spook' timestamp='1352907234' post='845454']
I believe it had Consulate status rather than just a temporary "diplomatic outpost." ....
[/quote]

Turns out it did not have consulate status, was referred to as "diplomatic facility" by state department. Almost certainly primarily there to aid CIA covert efforts. I wouldn't be at all surprised that it comes out that a CIA local asset turned to help organize the hit on both of the locations. Similar has happened in 'Stan frequently.

- OS Edited by OhShoot

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