what now?

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='stick1' timestamp='1352392719' post='841820']
Lets hope that civil war can evolve from this election, Greece ,France ,Ireland many European nations have had violent unrest over similar things. Let hope we can do it right.[/quote]

Oh yeah...let's wish for civil war...that's a great idea.

If a person has [u][b][i]ANYONE[/i][/b][/u] living in this country they give a damn about; how can such a person wish for something like civil war.

[Links2k]

[quote name='stick1' timestamp='1352392719' post='841820']
Lets hope that civil war can evolve from this election, Greece ,France ,Ireland many European nations have had violent unrest over similar things. Let hope we can do it right.
[/quote]

Lets hope that you get a mental evaluation.

[Guest HvyMtl]

[quote name='stick1' timestamp='1352392719' post='841820']
Lets hope that civil war can evolve from this election, Greece ,France ,Ireland many European nations have had violent unrest over similar things. Let hope we can do it right.
[/quote]
Wait, what?

You want a civil war? You want this great nation to die? Cause your candidate did not win?

You want it? Fine. My only request? You and yours get to die first.

[Guest HvyMtl]

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352353219' post='841681']
Don't understand. Winner had ~ 2.8 million more votes than loser. Second time for what?

- OS
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Second time in recent history the popular vote went to the one who lost the election. And it did not start a civil war then, and it is not now.

[Daniel]

The popular vote went to President Obama.

[RobertNashville]

Sad part is, if I've heard correctly; there were 13 million fewer voters overall this election than in 2008; Obummer received 10 Million fewer votes this year than in 2008 and Romney got 3 Million fewer votes than McCain did in 2008.

That means if those who voted for McCain last time around had voted for Mitt he would have won the election.

As I said in another thread, I can understand someone not liking Mitt and voting for a third-party or write-in...I get that...I don't get how anyone who cared enough to show up for an truly uninspiring candidate like McCain in 2008 won't even bother to go to the polls this time around.

I guess a lot of people truly just don't give a damn. Edited November 8, 2012 by RobertNashville

[Guest HvyMtl]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352395744' post='841858']
Sad part is, if I've heard correctly; there were 13 million fewer voters overall this election than in 2008; Obummer received 10 Million fewer votes this year than in 2008 and Romney got 3 Million fewer votes than McCain did in 2008.

That means if those who voted for McCain last time around had voted for Mitt he would have won the election.

As I said in another thread, I can understand someone not liking Mitt and voting for a third-party or write-in...I get that...I don't get how anyone who cared enough to show up for an truly uninspiring candidate like McCain in 2008 won't even bother to go to the polls this time around.

I guess a lot of people truly just don't give a damn.
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No, I think it means this: McCain was a more attractive candidate to the core GOP constituency than Romney was. If you could not get behind the candidate, you typically do not go out to vote for him...


Hmm. Daniel, I think you are right, Yahoo.com reports the vote as this:

48% or 57,653,982 For Romney. 50% or 60,459,974 for Obama.

So, not the most divisive President. Not even in recent history. Edited November 8, 2012 by HvyMtl

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='HvyMtl' timestamp='1352395953' post='841862']
No, I think it means this: McCain was a more attractive candidate to the core GOP constituency than Romney was. If you could not get behind the candidate, you typically do not go out to vote for him...[/quote]

First of all I don't agree that Mitt was less attractive to the GOP constituency than McCain...you certainly may fell that way but I just don't see the evidence to back up the opinion. I would suggest that McCain wasn't even half as good of a candidate or as good on policy positions as Romney was.

My God...EVERYBODY was complaining about McCain last time around as not being "conservative" and on and on (all of which was true) and even I had to hold my nose to be able to vote for him; he was horrible on virtually any policy position you could name and he would have been a horrible president (although I'd still rather have him than an America hating socialist like we have now). Mitt was not my first choice but I do believe he was probably the best candidate the Republicans have run since Reagan and I believe he would have been a truly good President.

Second, I don't understand and frankly, don't want to understand why anyone who claims to give a #### about this country won't even go the polls and vote for [u][i][b]SOMEONE[/b][/i][/u] if they cared enough to vote in 2008; that's the part I find truly perplexing no matter how much they may have hated Mitt. Edited November 8, 2012 by RobertNashville

[Guest cardcutter]

[quote name='HvyMtl' timestamp='1352395953' post='841862']
So, not the most divisive President. Not even in recent history.
[/quote]
Hvy
I think perhaps polarizing may be a better choice of words.
However the country is divided in ideology, vision for the future,the direction our country is going, and the way our government is being run.
Divisive yes. there is almost no middle ground.
GW did reach out. He did work with dems.
O hasn't and the dems in the Senate have absolutely refused to try.
So yes I will stand by the term divisive

[Daniel]

The youngest voters, the ones who will have to live with teh consequences are the ones making their bed. Let them lie in it already. It is the people with the least time left, no offense, who have the strongest feelings against the President.

[Daniel]

[quote name='cardcutter' timestamp='1352399129' post='841907']
Hvy
I think perhaps polarizing may be a better choice of words.
However the country is divided in ideology, vision for the future,the direction our country is going, and the way our government is being run.
Divisive yes. there is almost no middle ground.
GW did reach out. He did work with dems.
O hasn't and the dems in the Senate have absolutely refused to try.
So yes I will stand by the term divisive
[/quote]

You say this because you werent divided. You were on the side that the president was on. This time the shoe is on the other foot so of course you think he's divisive. Edited November 8, 2012 by Daniel

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Vote tallies only reveal a part of the country. Those who sat it out aren't counted in your tally, HvyMtl.
I dare say they are part of the divisiveness. When you have givers and takers, and the givers finally give
out, the divisiveness will be more apparent.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Daniel is right about the younger voters making their bed. It is only that the ones left with a shorter time around
have seen this coming and were outnumbered, this election cycle.

[S&WForty]

Regarding McCain vs Romney, everyone I know personally was much more supportive of Romney than they were McCain. My neighborhood was covered with Romney signs. There were practically none in my neighborhood for McCain.

Learning Romney got less votes than McCain is a shock to me. ;(

[G27]

Any of you Rambo-wannabes hoping for 'civil unrest' need to get the heck out of this country. Only a maniacal loser would wish for anything like that.

We don't need your kind.

[Guest EYEMAN]

It was announced today(2 days after the election) that Iran fired on one of our drones that was over international waters. This occured a week ago. Not only did our nation decide on a president, but also the outcome told Isreal that they are on their own.

[Guest ThePunisher]

Anybody ready for the coming tax hikes coming this January 1, that hits the average household $3,500 a year, not counting higher energy bills, higher gas prices, and higher food costs? The rich will get poorer and the poor will get poorer. That includes all those that voted for Obama. Edited November 9, 2012 by ThePunisher

[RobertNashville]

I'm actually considering changing jobs to one where I make substantially less money as I'll have less responsibility and it will put me back at an income level where I'll start to qualify for all tax credits and deductions I can't currently take.

Yeah...elections have consequences.

[TrickyNicky]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352449152' post='842334']
I'm actually considering changing jobs to one where I make substantially less money as I'll have less responsibility and it will put me back at an income level where I'll start to qualify for all tax credits and deductions I can't currently take.

Yeah...elections have consequences.
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Yeah it's kind of funny but mostly sad when earning less money actually puts more in you pocket...

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1352461087' post='842342']
Yeah it's kind of funny but mostly sad when earning less money actually puts more in you pocket...
[/quote]I'm also hoping the new job is close enough that I can walk or bicycle to it relatively easy; that way when gasoline is $12/gallon I can still get to work (or best yet, work from home).

[stick1]

[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1352404947' post='841964']
Any of you Rambo-wannabes hoping for 'civil unrest' need to get the heck out of this country. Only a maniacal loser would wish for anything like that.

We don't need your kind.
[/quote] This countrys freedoms was brought about by patriots who stood up revolted and warred among themselves. If everyone would have just got out of the country who didnt want to live as slaves or bow down to what they knew was wrong, only those like you would remain. Folks like Robert Nashville, LINKS2K, HvyMtl and the like could all be servants to the power that be , in my ancestors and family we have done just that, and sacrificed life for the freedoms of this nation, so you probably wouldnt understand. Dont try to imitate patriotism by standing behind the ones who enslave you.

[ttocswob]

What now?

The day after, I called the tv satellite company and cancelled. Not one more cent for the lamestream media's obamaganda.

That's not all that's getting cut, either. We're entering post apocalyptic survival mode here.

[Links2k]

[quote name='stick1' timestamp='1352467796' post='842380']
This countrys freedoms was brought about by patriots who stood up revolted and warred among themselves. If everyone would have just got out of the country who didnt want to live as slaves or bow down to what they knew was wrong, only those like you would remain. Folks like Robert Nashville, LINKS2K, HvyMtl and the like could all be servants to the power that be , in my ancestors and family we have done just that, and sacrificed life for the freedoms of this nation, so you probably wouldnt understand. Dont try to imitate patriotism by standing behind the ones who enslave you.
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Considering that most of the people that you are talking about are combat veterans, I want to tell you that you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about when you limit sacrifices for this country to whatever inbreed gene pool that created you.

Secondly, I stand by what I said. YOU NEED A MENTAL EVALUATION!

[Links2k]

[quote name='ttocswob' timestamp='1352469407' post='842391']
What now?

The day after, I called the tv satellite company and cancelled. Not one more cent for the lamestream media's obamaganda.

That's not all that's getting cut, either. We're entering post apocalyptic survival mode here.
[/quote]

Don't forget the internet. See ya!

[stick1]

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352480616' post='842516']
Considering that most of the people that you are talking about are combat veterans, I want to tell you that you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about when you limit sacrifices for this country to whatever inbreed gene pool that created you.

Secondly, I stand by what I said. YOU NEED A MENTAL EVALUATION!
[/quote] LOL