Election Results

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1352291528' post='840901']I do think we're in it bad but have to agree with Erik88 here. The only way through this is with our chins up.[/quote] No, there is another way. We can join the takers.

It was proven last night that more people want Other People's money than want freedom and liberty or anything close to financial responsibility so maybe it's time to join the majority and just get whatever we can get and to hell with the rest of the country.

[GlockSpock]

[quote]It was proven last night that more people want Other People's money than want freedom and liberty or anything close to financial responsibility[/quote]

It just occurred to me that, in a sense, we are just bringing back slavery. The freedom loving minority will slave away providing the entitled majority with goods and services, all while the entitled majority kick back and drink their iced tea...or perhaps a nice glass of Kool-Aid.

[TrickyNicky]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352294488' post='840929']
No, there is another way. We can join the takers.

It was proven last night that more people want Other People's money than want freedom and liberty or anything close to financial responsibility so maybe it's time to join the majority and just get whatever we can get and to hell with the rest of the country.
[/quote]

I know it's in jest/disgust but that has to be one of the saddest things I've read, made sadder still by the fact that you just may prove to be correct.

[E4 No More]

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352263015' post='840760']
The senate can filibuster an appointment.
[/quote]I think that you are forgetting about the likes of Alexander & Corker.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='Erik88' timestamp='1352290960' post='840895']
Well, it looks like those "biased polls" were right all along. I can't say I'm surprised. Perhaps the GOP will be a better candidate next time who people actually like though I don't think Jesus Christ himself could have surpassed Obummer in this election.

We can sit here and bitch and moan for 4 years or we can accept the fact that Obama is our president and just pray things don't get worse. I'm not going to live my life in fear because everyone on this site claims the sky is falling. Let's try to stay positive.
[/quote]

Thanks for that inspiring speech. I thought Obama's was better. The reality is... Same ole sh#t, different day. Obama ran a tactically smart campaign with the mainstream media's help. With all of that, 48% of the population voted against him. The balance of power in congress remained virtually unchanged.

The country is more divided than it's ever been. They have to fix some stuff, but it will be anything but an Obama love fest. I'll cheer up when he wakes up.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='SWJewellTN' timestamp='1352298511' post='840971']
I think that you are forgetting about the likes of Alexander & Corker.
[/quote]

Not forgetting. Do you think the GOP is just gonna lay down and let the court go full commie?

[mikegideon]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352292666' post='840918']
I guess you mean like they filibustered the last two Constitution hating appointments, correct?
[/quote]

Didn't they both replace liberals? Never mind. I'll just give up and let 'em have it. I'm old.

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='Erik88' timestamp='1352290960' post='840895']
Well, it looks like those "biased polls" were right all along. I can't say I'm surprised. Perhaps the GOP will be a better candidate next time who people actually like though I don't think Jesus Christ himself could have surpassed Obummer in this election.

We can sit here and bitch and moan for 4 years or we can accept the fact that Obama is our president and just pray things don't get worse. I'm not going to live my life in fear because everyone on this site claims the sky is falling. Let's try to stay positive.[/quote]
It isn't fear for me; it's rational thought based on a few decades of paying attention...my generation has failed the generations behind, like the one you are part of...I'm sorry about that...it wasn't me personally as I did what I could do but it obviously wasn't enough.

As a group, the takers who are dependent on the teat of Uncle Sam is only going to get larger between now and 2016; I don't know what "better candidate" is going to overcome that unless he/she promises exactly the same government milk the Democrats have been putting out since the 1960s...by the time Obamacare really kicks in there will be nothing left of freedom and liberty except as etchings on stone buildings.

Won't get worse? You mean the communist in chief will agree to only add $1.2 Trillion to the debt every year instead of $1.25 Trillion while the House Republicans pats themselves on the back for "holding the line" on spending and taxes???

Maybe we'll go over the cliff and people will start dumpster diving (like they are doing in Greece now) two months later than we would have otherwise.

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352303986' post='841025']
Didn't they both replace liberals? Never mind. I'll just give up and let 'em have it. I'm old.
[/quote]Yes they did so they didn't change the overall makeup of the court. However, the Republicans in the Senate couldn't get GWBs nominations through even when they were the majority and I've see absolutely nothing in the years since that would indicate to me that they have the will to do anyting to oppose this president.

Elections have consequences; a liberal court packed with a majority of justices who think the Constitution is a living thing that needs to be reinterpreted (or even ignored in favor of more "enlightened" laws from other countries) is one of those consequences we now will face and I respectfully suggest, Mike, that any faith in the Senate to stop it is misplaced...oh they may bluster and him and haw and make some noise but in the end, they'll fold like the spineless piles of crap they are.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352304586' post='841030']
Yes they did so they didn't change the overall makeup of the court. However, the Republicans in the Senate couldn't get GWBs nominations through even when they were the majority and I've see absolutely nothing in the years since that would indicate to me that they have the will to do anyting to oppose this president.

Elections have consequences; a liberal court packed with a majority of justices who think the Constitution is a living thing that needs to be reinterpreted (or even ignored in favor of more "enlightened" laws from other countries) is one of those consequences we now will face and I respectfully suggest, Mike, that any faith in the Senate to stop it is misplaced...oh they may bluster and him and haw and make some noise but in the end, they'll fold like the spineless piles of crap they are.
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So... it's over.

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352304738' post='841031']
So... it's over.
[/quote]Well, I see no end of $trillion annual deficits for as far out into the future as anybody wants to look...all the social programs consuming the country's wealth are completely unsustainable and not a single politician, least of all the socialist in chief, are willing to do anything about it. We won't protect our borders and we won't even protect Americans abroad...we have more people riding in the wagon than pulling it...yeah...I'd say the grand experiment is over.

Even putting all other issues aside, no country can continue on the financial road we are on without going over the financial cliff; the number simply don't work and no amount of manipulating the numbers will change the inevitable. One tiny change in any one of a number of factors could make it happen...I don't know how long we can hold on but there will come a day when it happens and when it does happen I believe it will happen with a swiftness than few can comprehend.

I hope people are preparing...storing food, guns, ammunition and the basics of life because those things will either be extremely difficult to find or impossible to afford if you do find them. When the financial collapse happens things will get pretty ugly.

God...I truly hope and pray that I'm wrong.

Eventually, the country will probably recover...what it will look like I've no idea but, like you, I'm old...I seriously doubt I'll be around long enough to see that part of it.

[Glenn]

Yes, It is over as far as the country I know and love.

[Ramjo]

At least we can be proud of our state. The race wasn't even close here.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352305564' post='841034']
Well, I see no end of $trillion annual deficits for as far out into the future as anybody wants to look...all the social programs consuming the country's wealth are completely unsustainable and not a single politician, least of all the socialist in chief, are willing to do anything about it. We won't protect our borders and we won't even protect Americans abroad...we have more people riding in the wagon than pulling it...yeah...I'd say the grand experiment is over.

Even putting all other issues aside, no country can continue on the financial road we are on without going over the financial cliff; the number simply don't work and no amount of manipulating the numbers will change the inevitable. One tiny change in any one of a number of factors could make it happen...I don't know how long we can hold on but there will come a day when it happens and when it does happen I believe it will happen with a swiftness than few can comprehend.

I hope people are preparing...storing food, guns, ammunition and the basics of life because those things will either be extremely difficult to find or impossible to afford if you do find them. When the financial collapse happens things will get pretty ugly.

God...I truly hope and pray that I'm wrong.

Eventually, the country will probably recover...what it will look like I've no idea but, like you, I'm old...I seriously doubt I'll be around long enough to see that part of it.
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I have plenty of guns and ammo, and I know where the food is. I'll just have to develop a taste for Granola and low fat yogurt

[Chucktshoes]

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352304738' post='841031']
So... it's over.
[/quote]
It has been over for a long time. I've said it before, but it bears repeating. The republic is dead, she just ain't stopped moving yet.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='Chucktshoes' timestamp='1352306656' post='841047']
It has been over for a long time. I've said it before, but it bears repeating. The republic is dead, she just ain't stopped moving yet.
[/quote]

Thanks for cheering me up

[Links2k]

[quote name='Erik88' timestamp='1352290960' post='840895']

We can sit here and bitch and moan for 4 years
[/quote]

You can count on that. Have you been reading the threads he last six months?

[Chucktshoes]

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352306805' post='841050'] Thanks for cheering me up [/quote]No problem, anytime.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352306806' post='841051'] You can count on that. Have you been reading the threads the last [s]six months[/s] 4 years? [/quote]FTFY

[Links2k]

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1352291528' post='840901']
I do think we're in it bad but have to agree with Erik88 here. The only way through this is with our chins up.
[/quote]

And keeping the real issues in front of the people. Keep the druken uncles off of the television talking about gays and rape. More time was spent on those issues than talking about the economy, energy and the dead ambassordor.

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352307065' post='841054']
And keeping the real issues in front of the people. Keep the druken uncles off of the television talking about gays and rape. More time was spent on those issues than talking about the economy, energy and the dead ambassordor.
[/quote]Yeah...right...the Repubs lost because too many people talk about gays and rape.

All the Republicans need to do is to look just like the Democratic party and all will be well with the world. Edited November 7, 2012 by RobertNashville

[Links2k]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352307183' post='841056']
Yeah...right...the Repubs lost because too many people talk about gays and rape.

All the Republicans need to do is to look just like the Democratic party and all will be well with the world.
[/quote]

Robert, I can't fight with you guys for the next four years. Obama didn't win a great victory last night, but he won because even with the bad leadership and poor economy people are tired of the scare tactics. There are actually some adults out there that want real straight talk about the big issues.

The voters know that things are bad under Obama, but crazy talk, scare tactics and clicking your heels are not a solution. So,what do you do? As I mentioned in another thread, the demographics of the country are going to continue to change. If the GOP remains the party of the angry old white man it is DOOMED.

[E4 No More]

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352303660' post='841024']
Not forgetting. Do you think the GOP is just gonna lay down and let the court go full commie?
[/quote]If they act in a pure obstructionist mode then the next election will be even more damaging. Besides, Alexander broke once so he'll do it again.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352307183' post='841056']
Yeah...right...the Repubs lost because too many people talk about gays and rape.

All the Republicans need to do is to look just like the Democratic party and all will be well with the world.
[/quote]

White women beat Romney. We're gonna replace them with what? In four years, that might not even be enough, if we can manage to stay out of their pants. The two candidates that made the famous rape statements LOST. Both lost in states that Romney carried.

Not saying we should turn into Dems. Just saying, the commies won because WE got way off message.

[RobertNashville]

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352308232' post='841071']...If the GOP remains the party of the angry old white man it is DOOMED.[/quote]

[size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]It is doomed.

The voters don’t give a #### that things are bad under Obama because Obama promised them free stuff; the stuff Republicans say you have to work for. Of course they are going to choose free stuff.

What some are suggesting is for the Republican party to look more like the Democratic party and have a "big tent" with maybe some fiscal discipline thrown in – well, we already have the Democratic party; we don’t need the Democratic-lite party. Maybe if a balanced budget is all a person thinks really matters that "lite" idea works for them but it sure as hell doesn’t work for me and I want no part of it.[/font][/size] Edited November 7, 2012 by RobertNashville

[mikegideon]

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352308986' post='841079']
It is doomed.

The voters don’t give a #### that things are bad under Obama because Obama promised them free stuff; the stuff Republicans say you have to work for. Of course they are going to choose free stuff.

[size=2]What some are suggesting is for the Republican party to look more like the Democratic party and have a "big tent" with maybe some fiscal discipline thrown in – well, we already have the Democratic party; we don’t need the Democratic-lite party. Maybe if a balanced budget is all a person thinks really matters that "lite" idea works for them but it sure as hell doesn’t work for me and I want no part of it.[/size]
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A whole lot of those votes were strictly over social issues. More than enough to swing the election.