45 ACP. 185. 200. 230. POI.

[vujade]

While my sw1911 is still at the shop, I've been reloading and reading about reloading so that I can reload some more.

I think I'm going to get into using some lead bullets. Much cheaper and from what I read, won't hurt the accuracy.

I'm hearing good things about Missouri Bullet Company and looking at their 185, 200 and 230 grain models. Question - will point of impact change dramatically when shooting 185, 200 or 230 grain bullets at 25 yards?

I don't have adjustable sights. I'd like to find the best bullet for accuracy and without having to change sights.

I'm also debating between the round nose, round nose flat top or semi wadcutter. I assume if i can chamber an empty case, I should be good with the swc. And if i can chamber a swc, those are the best for target practice?

[dlmeadows]

I personally had really bad luck with SWC. My gun just didn't like them and the accuracy was horrible. the best bullet for MY gun is a 230gr round nose. All I shoot is lead bullets that I cast myself.

[Jonnin]

Its the velocity. If your 230 is moving 800 fps and your 180 is moving 1000 fps, then absolutely, at 25 yards, you will have a different point of impact. This may or may not be clear until you think about it but 1 second after your bullet is out the barrel, the 180 is 200 yards farther away from you --- and in that time both dropped the same amount due to gravity (32 feet in the first second, I think). So they both reach 25 yards a different times, and time is what changes the distance it will fall due to gravity.

Its going to be a small fraction of an inch ---- at 800 fps the bullet has fallen a little over an inch and at 1000 a little bit less and the difference between them is going to be maybe 1/3 an inch TOPS, probably less than that (sorry doing it all in my head).

You can get a new recoil spring for a few dollars (less than 10) and reduce your load to match the drop of the heavier slug if it means THAT much to you. If it does mean THAT much to you, the MBC bullets vary in weight, distribution of their lube, and shape/size by enough that you want to get expensive bullets instead. MBC are great for what they are (inexpensive!) but they are mass produced, banged around, and not exactly top shelf 1/10 an inch variation at 100 yards competition grade slugs either. Edited November 6, 2012 by Jonnin

[Dolomite_supafly]

Make sure you tumble lube them with Lee Alox before loading them. I have shot a lot of Missouri bullets and had leading issues until I started using Lee Alox on them.

Dolomite

[Jonnin]

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Make sure you tumble lube them with Lee Alox before loading them. I have shot a lot of Missouri bullets and had leading issues until I started using Lee Alox on them.

Dolomite
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I dunno when the last time you bought them was but they come covered in a blue wax lube now. If they did not before? It seems to do fine for me, no lead here in multiple calibers (I like them because they have a 9x18 option).

[Dolomite_supafly]

They had the blue lube when I bought them. They leaded bad in a 1911 I had. I called them and they said push them harder so I did. Still got leading so I called again and once again they said I was not getting enough velocity. I quite upping the load when the 200 grain bullets were deep into the 1,000 fps range. Then someone told me to tumble lube them. I did and the leading was gone.

Dolomite

[peejman]

What Jonnin said.

My defense rounds are 200gr +P while I use standard 230 gr for practice. The 230's hit about an inch lower at 25 yds. Not enough to matter IMO.

[AdotOdot4]

I have some 185 and 200 gr SWC and 230 RN moly coated from Bayou Bullets to test in my 1911.

It might be couple weeks since I can't shoot after work with the time change, but I'll post what I find on POI shift.

To echo Dolomite I've had good luck with alox to prevent leading.

[vujade]

well, i just ordered some 200 grain SWC and 230 round nose from MBC. I'll make some loads when they come in (200 and 230 seemed to be the most common out there) and see if there is a big shift in poi.

[j2flan]

[url="http://www.mastercast.net/"]www.mastercast.net/[/url] Here you go. I have used these, 200gr swc (H&G 68 copy) for many years, never a bad bullet, no leading in any of my six 1911s that are use for range beaters. The best of that style bullet of any I have tryed, as good or better priceing and fast shipping. You can tell I am a big fan
Just remember heaver bullets shoot lower, the more distance the lower they hit. I shoot at 15yds or so and the POI is dead center. Good Luck Edited November 11, 2012 by j2flan

[vujade]

thanks. I'm waiting for the bullets to come (and hopefully the sw1911 which is with S&W for repair) and then I'll start to reload (and shoot).