A Last Minute Appeal To Libertarians And Non-Voters

[gun sane]

Bill Whittle explains the reasons why a protest vote or non-vote because of principle could be catastrophic.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjBXufufUU[/media]

[Guest Drewsett]

Not in this state...even if 15% of likely conservative voters went for a third party Romney would still likely win Tennessee. This is the best situation to cast a protest vote. Or, if you were in CA, NY, NJ, etc, it would be the same, just in reverse. The only place this makes a difference is in swing states. Remember boys and girls, it's the electoral college that matters, not the popular vote.

If you really want to see a change in our political future; if you want a strong option other than the Republocrats and Demicans we currently have to choose from, you MUST vote third party. The only way third parties get a seat at the debates is if they win at least one state or 15% of the popular vote.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Doing something in this state would
only possibly make another state win
necessary if it is a close race. Bill
Whittle is right.

You make your choices better by getting
involved in the party of your choice and
working for that change as you see
to be necessary.

Just running for president every time
won't cut it.


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[DaveTN]

I don’t think most people that take the time to vote are going to walk into that polling place and throw their vote away. Some will, but I don’t think most will, that’s what I hope anyway.

[daddyo]

Did anyone catch the part where he said that "a vote for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson is a vote for Barack Obama" is offensive and is NOT true? Edited November 3, 2012 by DaddyO

[SlapChopDonkey]

Sorry, but I can't vote for a liberal, economy killing, gun grabbing, government health care mandating, big government solutions sack of $h!t... Or Obama either. In TN, the race will not be close enough that the third party candidate will steal enough votes to effect the outcome. Anyone who says otherwise, needs to read up on how the electoral college works. Instead of trying to scare people into voting for Obama-Light, maybe Republicans should nominate a true conservative candidate.

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

[quote name='DaddyO' timestamp='1351957876' post='838354']
Did anyone catch the part where he said that "a vote for Ron Paul or Gary Johnson is a vote for Barack Obama" is offensive and is NOT true?
[/quote]Completely false and for that to be true I would have to put my check mark or X next to that snake oil selling SOB's name.

Well by now enough forum members here know I'm voting Gary Johnson. There is nothing that can be said or done to change how I am going to vote. Edited November 3, 2012 by ArmyVeteran37214

[Guest 6.8 AR]

It's not true except to the extent that it
could change a very tight race into a
decisive victory for Obama in that state,
which in turn would give the electoral
votes for a wrong choice.
I have no problem with protest votes,
but would you want Obama in this case?


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[Guest 6.8 AR]

In TN I imagine your vote for Gary
won't hurt and would be a protest vote.


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[Guest Lester Weevils]

Like if Pepsi says, "A vote for Dr Pepper is a vote for Coca Cola." Whaaa???

[mikegideon]

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[mikegideon]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351960351' post='838367']
In TN I imagine your vote for Gary
won't hurt and would be a protest vote.


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[/quote]

Yep. Of course, you're protesting the will of the people. It's how you get to be president.

[Oh Shoot]

[quote name='SlapChopDonkey' timestamp='1351958567' post='838357']
.... maybe Republicans should nominate a true conservative candidate.[/quote]

Because such can not win the presidency anymore. If you think so, you don't understand the US electorate as now exists.

No true conservative will ever be president here again until perhaps after a major internal meltdown; if indeed we're still electing presidents at all after that.

- OS

[mikegideon]

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1351961040' post='838374']
Because such can not win the presidency anymore. [b]If you think so, you don't understand the US electorate as now exists.[/b]

No true conservative will ever be president here again until perhaps after a major internal meltdown; if indeed we're still electing presidents at all after that.

- OS
[/quote]

Ding!

[SlapChopDonkey]

Choosing the lessor of two evils, is still choosing evil.

[Guest ThePunisher]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351960351' post='838367']
In TN I imagine your vote for Gary
won't hurt and would be a protest vote.


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[/quote]

What is wrong with a protest vote against the commie Obama who wants to ruin our nation? I believe that is a more legitimate protest vote, unless of course you're for Marxism/socialism replacing Capitalism and Constitutional law.

[gun sane]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351960265' post='838366']
It's not true except to the extent that it
could change a very tight race into a
decisive victory for Obama in that state,
which in turn would give the electoral
votes for a wrong choice.
I have no problem with protest votes,
but would you want Obama in this case?
[/quote]

I heard on the news last night that Johnson could give Romney trouble in New Hampshire. That's 4 electoral votes that will go to Prez Zero if Romney doesn't overcome the gap.

[G27]

[quote name='gun sane' timestamp='1351976149' post='838472']
I heard on the news last night that Johnson could give Romney trouble in New Hampshire. That's 4 electoral votes that will go to Prez Zero if Romney doesn't overcome the gap.
[/quote]
And how is that anyone other than Romney's fault?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

[quote name='SlapChopDonkey' timestamp='1351958567' post='838357']
Sorry, but I can't vote for a liberal, economy killing, gun grabbing, government health care mandating, big government solutions sack of $h!t... Or Obama either. In TN, the race will not be close enough that the third party candidate will steal enough votes to effect the outcome. Anyone who says otherwise, needs to read up on how the electoral college works. [b]Instead of trying to scare people into voting for Obama-Light, maybe Republicans should nominate a true conservative candidate.[/b]
[/quote]
Maybe you should get involved in your Republican Party. What makes you think Romney won't be conservative? He is
a conservative businessman. His role in MA politics doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he will be conservative.
And that AWB argument won't hold 5 seconds of methane gas coming out of someone's ass.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

[quote name='gun sane' timestamp='1351976149' post='838472']
I heard on the news last night that Johnson could give Romney trouble in New Hampshire. That's 4 electoral votes that will go to Prez Zero if Romney doesn't overcome the gap.
[/quote]
Maybe so, but I am of the camp that thinks it will be a landslide, come Wednesday morning.
It's a small camp, but it is what it is. I am not counting any electoral votes for Johnson.

[mikegideon]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351979395' post='838486']
Maybe so, but I am of the camp that thinks it will be a landslide, come Wednesday morning.
It's a small camp, but it is what it is. I am not counting any electoral votes for Johnson.
[/quote]

Johnson is a gnat. I don't expect him to hit 3% in any state.

[SlapChopDonkey]

I'm not a republican. I have voted for some republicans in the past. I have also voted for some democrats. I believe in very limited government. Not expanding its size, power, and spending. If republicans want my vote in the future, they can run a conservative candidate. If not, I'll vote for someone else. That is the beauty of free elections. I will not, however, just give them my vote because their guy is slightly less liberal than the other guy.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

When you show me a Democrat who believes in small government, I'll vote for him, too. Start searching...

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I don't expect Johnson to get over 1% in most states.

[Chucktshoes]

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351979239' post='838485']
Maybe you should get involved in your Republican Party. What makes you think Romney won't be conservative? He is
a conservative businessman. His role in MA politics doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he will be conservative.
And that AWB argument won't hold 5 seconds of methane gas coming out of someone's ass.[/quote]
Saving this for posterity. The absurdity of this post is completely awesome. Thank you for the laugh, I needed it.