DC has lost their friggin minds

[Guest darkstar]

This is some scarry stuff if you think about it. And to have an official off-handedly say they are not worried about the constitutionality of it is even scarrier. Of course they aren't worried about it being constitutional, they obviously have no concern for it in the first place...i.e. DC vs. Heller.

Whats next? Jack Booted thugs busting doors at 3 a.m. (will doubly suck now that Hilary won't be around for those 3 a.m phone calls right?)

[The Rabbi]

Somehow I doubt they will do this.

If they do and get away with it, we're all screwed.

If they do and don't get away with it, they're screwed.

And some people on this very site would probably see nothing wrong with it.

"Why yes officer, here's my ID. Please search my car and person while you're at it."

[Guest darkstar]

Somehow I doubt they will do this.

If they do and get away with it, we're all screwed.

If they do and don't get away with it, they're screwed.

And some people on this very site would probably see nothing wrong with it.

"Why yes officer, here's my ID. Please search my car and person while you're at it."

LOL "I'VE got nothing to hide"

[The Rabbi]

I looked for a news article on this.

It's a little different. They will be targeting motorists and looking at IDs, i.e. drivers' licenses.

http://www.nbc4.com/news/16493835/detail.html

Now, that's sort of OK. The part about "a legitimate reason to be there" is nonsense. I dont need a legitimate reason to be anywhere, other than "I want to." I would about organize a drive up there to cruise those neighborhoods.

Excuse me sir, what is your purpose for being in this neighborhood?

Screw you officer.

[bteague2]

I'm in Rabbi, I could use a road trip.

[Guest jackdog]

hell count me in ,that would be a lot of fun

[Guest canynracer]

Take pictures...

LMAO

[Mike.357]

why does everyone think the gov't has alterior motives. Obviously they are doing it for the residents own good. These neighborhoods are dens for drug dealers and illegally owned firearms. The gesta.. er gov't ought to just go door to door and make sure people in those doors belong there.

[I_Like_Pie]

I call bovine scatology on this. Exactly what city in the United States has used this program before?

Uhh...New Orleans during floods, Los Angeles and Cincinatti during riots, pretty much every city in Oklahoma that has been hit by a tornado.

Oh yeah...even Chattanooga CLICK HERE

Yeah...they step on all sorts of God given rights, but they have happened in the USA before. Every one of them that has been challenged has fallen flat on its face under the Bill of Rights. DC is banking on nobody challenging it. Given the little "door to door" trick that they tried to play earlier in the year...I am willing to bet there is a huge number of lawyers salivating over this proposal.

[dunndw]

From the Washington Post:

The checkpoint will stop vehicles approaching the 1400 block of Montello Avenue NE, a section of the Trinidad neighborhood that has been plagued with homicides and other violence. Police will search cars if they suspect the presence of guns or drugs, and will arrest people who do not cooperate, under a charge of failure to obey a police officer, officials said.

[The Rabbi]

Nothing threatening about that.

[Guest CrazyLincoln]

Police will search cars if they suspect the presence of guns or drugs, and will arrest people who do not cooperate, under a charge of failure to obey a police officer, officials said.

Uhh.... Failure to obey a police officer? Sounds a little totalitarian doesn't it? I mean, resisting arrest or failure to comply during a traffic stop are understandable, but FAILURE TO OBEY A POLICE OFFICER???

So what if the police officer asks me to something illegal or immoral? Last I checked, the police have no powers to boss you around unless it is procedural as part of their duties.

"Sir, Give me that Big Mac, it has too many calories for you."

"No."

"Sir, You're under arrest for failure to obey a police officer..."

[Guest killemducks]

The "Berlin Wall" comes to mind for some reason.........

and Mike.357, "alterior motives" maybe not, but dang, you gotta see the treading on law abiding citizens rights here.

I say, take the money wasted on this effort and give all the law abiding folks guns and training and let them take out a little capital punishment on the thugs. If it is a "war zone", heck, arm the good guys.

[towerclimber37]

The "Berlin Wall" comes to mind for some reason.........

and Mike.357, "alterior motives" maybe not, but dang, you gotta see the treading on law abiding citizens rights here.

I say, take the money wasted on this effort and give all the law abiding folks guns and training and let them take out a little capital punishment on the thugs. If it is a "war zone", heck, arm the good guys.

I think we all agree that these folks are going about this in a bass ackwards manner..

when citizens lose the ability to protect themselves and the judges have ruled that the police aren't required to protect anyone, then OF COURSE the criminals will be in control.

These losers are handicapping themselves with their own ideals and can't understand WHY they can't get anything done!

I'll bet that if they re institute the right to carry, they'd see a huge drop in criminal behavior...but that's just the ranting of a "gun nut".

they'd probably get better results if they started looking at themselves and public servants instead of "crowd control" officials.

[Guest nraforlife]

why does everyone think the gov't has alterior motives. Obviously they are doing it for the residents own good. These neighborhoods are dens for drug dealers and illegally owned firearms. The gesta.. er gov't ought to just go door to door and make sure people in those doors belong there.

Whats next, blocking off the entire area and not letting ANYONE in or out and then doing a house by house, backyard by backyard FULL inspection of everything. Arresting everyone that lives in the house if guns and/or drugs are found.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

[Guest Halfpint]

As others have said, an official saying point-blank that he's not worried about the constitutionality of something has me absolutely terrified, "targeted program" or not.

Ducks, I wouldn't totally agree to "give them guns and training" but I'll definitely say they should have the OPTION of guns and training if it is their choice. I only say they shouldn't be GIVEN guns because of some of my customers--good people, morally and psychologically sound, wouldn't hurt a fly. It's the "wouldn't hurt a fly" part that worries me--many of them want guns to "scare off the bad guys" and would only wind up getting themselves hurt/killed in the process.

Bkelm, it's sad to say, you're right--the American people (as a whole, at least) have no will to fight. But then, real honest-to-goodness four-legged sheep don't either.

[G27]

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Yah, the whole forest/trees scenario seems to escape many politicians...