help. stuck case in sizing die.

[vujade]

I have a 45 case stuck in a sizing die but the rim is still there/intact.

Federal Case. Lee sizing die. I've removed the die from the dillon press to take a better look at it. I've taken out the top part of the die/pin that pushes the primer out. Aside from sending it off, any suggestions? Or is the most cost effective thing to do is just buy a new sizing die (dangit, I hate to have to wait).

Edited October 19, 2012 by vujade

[vujade]

[vujade]

cancel that. i figured it out. i used the decapper pin and mallet to drive the case out by hammering it out from the top side.

[R_Bert]

If you were able to drive it out, then you didn't have it stuck; it was just resting for a while.

Here is what you need for the nightmares - http://www.midwayusa...ck-case-remover

Edited October 19, 2012 by R_Bert

[Troutburger]

I HATE it when that happens.

[Dolomite_supafly]

And this is why I lube pistol cases as well, even with a carbide die. Lubing them also makes it easier and saves effort.

Dolomite

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That's one I've never had happen or seen, pistol case, that is. Is the shell plate the right size?

That shouldn't have happened.

[R_Bert]

It's really irritating to break the base off of a bottleneck cartridge. I have had to soak a few overnight in Kroil even with the extractor gizmo noted above.

As Gordon commented, Nowadays I always lube, regardless, and I run them wet (with alcohol based lube). It's simpler, easier, and far quicker to clean out the sizer than it is to extract a case.

[vujade]

And this is why I lube pistol cases as well, even with a carbide die. Lubing them also makes it easier and saves effort.

Dolomite

yes. going to start to do this.

[vujade]

That's one I've never had happen or seen, pistol case, that is. Is the shell plate the right size?

That shouldn't have happened.

this was a more involved problem which I'm a bit embarrassed to share... and while the premise to solve it was right, i didn't think it all the way through.

I use a hand primer and had some issue pushing this particular primer all the way in. (correct primer, etc. I think it went sideways sort off and just got stuck there. I didn't want to just ram/force it so I disassembled the priming tool (RCBS hand primer) but the case, primer and shell holder was still stuck. So i said, I'll just use the sizing die/primer tool to remove the primer... and it did but then I didn't think far ahead on how to remove the case from the sizing die. (and I know, using a sizing die/deprimer to remove a live primer may not be the best idea but I reckon it was better than hand forcing it out)

Until I just hammered out out the stuck case from the other side. Luckily it wasn't so bad.

As soon as I saw that primer stuck sort off slanted, i just wanted to get it out.

[Jonnin]

its not easy to stick a regular pistol case and there is no reason to over-lube those. It has to do with surface area. When a case is stuck, the more surface area that is stuck against the die wall, the more force you need to get it out. A 9mm, short of accidentally using glue instead of grease to lube the case, is never going to stick hard enough to need heroic efforts to fix. A 44 mag or 45 maybe, but anything smaller, probably not. The worst stuck pistol cases should pop right out with a little force. Kroil is excellent but it can, as I understand it, neutralize primers (sometimes?) so clean up afterwards.

Rifles, with 3 times the length translating to a LOT more surface area, those can get stuck in the die very hard. An unlubed rifle case is asking for trouble.

[mikegideon]

I use a Lee carbide sizing die with no lube for 45 ACP. Goes thru like butter. Bottleneck rifle needs lube, but I've never stuck one.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I've been caught with my pants down. I understand. Live and learn.

[R_Bert]

I've been caught with my pants down. I understand. Live and learn.

^^^^^

this.

If it can be done wrong or even just screwed up, I can innovate a "improvement" to elevate the FUBAR.

[glockster157]

Here is what I do. I got a #7 drill and a 1/4-20 tap. Take the decapper out or back it out of the way. Drill and tap the primer pocket out, take a 1/4-20 bolt about 3/4 to 1" long and a washer, put it through a socket of the appropriate size and screw it into the case. It will pull it right out. You can buy a stuck case kit from RCBS or I just got the drill bit and tap at Lowes for a few bucks. Everybody has bolts, washers and sockets in the tool box.

[mikegideon]

I've been caught with my pants down. I understand. Live and learn.

You gotta be the king of stuck cases. Did you ever pick up an RCBS lube pad?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Nope, just a mechanics wrag well saturated, nowadays.

I had to take a torch to my newly acquired 308 decapping/sizer die almost immediately.

I almost cried when a case got stuck in that one.

Edited October 19, 2012 by 6.8 AR

[Guest Riverrat]

I had one on a 9 mm. I removed the primer pin added another nut. Placed it in the vise, using a 5/15 wood dowel and hammer. It was out in seconds.

[Clod Stomper]

Here is what I do. I got a #7 drill and a 1/4-20 tap. Take the decapper out or back it out of the way. Drill and tap the primer pocket out, take a 1/4-20 bolt about 3/4 to 1" long and a washer, put it through a socket of the appropriate size and screw it into the case. It will pull it right out. You can buy a stuck case kit from RCBS or I just got the drill bit and tap at Lowes for a few bucks. Everybody has bolts, washers and sockets in the tool box.

This.

Don't order a stuck case kit from Midway when you can drive to Lowe's or Home Depot and get what you need the same day for less cash. I've had to do it for myself and another time for a friend who was about to send his die back to the manufacturer.

Will

[runco]

I had this to happen tonight.  A 9mm round, that had damage to the rim, before I shoved it into the Lee resizing die.  Of course I tried pliers, and did more damage to the brass.  I then stopped before I damaged my die, searched TGO, and found this site.  The removal of the decapping pin, and then using the pin along with a hammer did the trick.  Thanks for this posting.  It was very helpful.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I still can't imagine a straight case getting stuck. And I can't imagine having to lube one. This was most certainly an abbarent

thing happening.

I know damned good and well how to get 'em stuck if they're bottleneck, just haven't learned this one. Of course, with much

better case prep, nowadays, and a stuck case remover sitting next to the vise, it doesn't seem to happen like it did when I

didn't have that case remover.

 

Mike, I've upgraded to that Hornady case lube in the spray bottle. Works real good, so far.

[Guest Fruit jar]

Not a stuck case yet for me. But I did remove the base from a case once. That took a while to dig out. Ice pick worked best and didn't hurt the die.

[Major Kong]

Ugh, I just got my first case stuck night before last. A .223 that I apparently missed in the lube stage. The shell holder ripped the case rim off. It's stuck gooood...

[Berettatn]

That's one I've never had happen or seen, pistol case, that is. Is the shell plate the right size?
That shouldn't have happened.

 

my question too

[Guest Fruit jar]

I had one on a 9 mm. I removed the primer pin added another nut. Placed it in the vise, using a 5/15 wood dowel and hammer. It was out in seconds.

 

I had one on a 9 mm. I removed the primer pin added another nut. Placed it in the vise, using a 5/15 wood dowel and hammer. It was out in seconds.