Tennessee Liqour-by-the-Drink Licensees Posted on State Website

[Falcon1]

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About two months ago, I asked Ms. Shari Danielle Elks, the Executive Director of the Tennessee Alcoholic Beverage Commission, if she would post a list of current Tennessee licensees to serve liquor for on-premises consumption. She stated in a letter to me dated 8 May 2008 that she had directed her "computer person" to do so as soon as the state website was updated. I checked on the site tonight, and it is indeed there, as of 30 May 2008:

http://www.state.tn.us/abc/LBD%20LIC...2005302008.pdf

One can also find it by going to the Alcoholic Beverage Commission's website, clicking on the "Commission Matters" button, and then clicking on the "TABC Current Licenses Issued" link. It leads to the 95-page (currently) .pdf referenced above.

This will allow Tennessee HCP holders to prevent inadvertent violations of the law. It will also give holders the address to send copies of their receipts for the money they did spend in the non-alcohol-serving restaurant that they might have spent in the licensee's establishment instead if Mr. Naifeh hadn't killed restaurant-carry reform this year.

I think tough economic times are ahead for the restaurant industry in Tennessee. Let's be certain these establishments know of the business they are losing from us because we cannot legally carry in their establishments!

[Guest dwrd]

Wow this is great. I love that it is searchable as well. Way to go on helping to make a valuable resource available.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

So what do we do, write every one of them and inform them that 300,000 permit holders were now choosing not to do business with their establishments?

[mdlave]

Nice report. It would've been nice if they included happy hour information too.

[tnroadrunner]

I didn't see Applebees in Dickson on the list.

[Fallguy]

Remember this is a list of places with a State issued Liquor License.

It does not include places with a City or County issued Beer License (unless they also have a liquor license from the state).

[Guest dotsun]

So what do we do, write every one of them and inform them that 300,000 permit holders were now choosing not to do business with their establishments?

Hey, maybe we found a job for Kwik. Nah, that wouldn't be good troll material for him.

[Falcon1]

I didn't see Applebees in Dickson on the list.

Is it Permit #34018 (page 52)?

[Guest Glknknox]

I don't think a web page is needed for this, but if it help's somebody I'm all for it. (for them)

Commen sence on what you are walking into is a better option.

Live and learn.

[strickj]

I don't think a web page is needed for this, but if it help's somebody I'm all for it. (for them)

Commen sence on what you are walking into is a better option.

Live and learn.

Well its not always that easy! Here in Chatt we have two Sweeneys BBQ.The one dwn town is a BBQ restaurant just like every other BBQ restaurant,while the one in Hixon is a BBQ restaurant that serves alcohol.From first appearances you would not know your going into a place thats no carry!

[Fallguy]

Unfortunatley though...a search of the linked document doesn't show a Sweenys BBQ

So must not serve Liquor by the drink, but only beer.

[Guest tiltrotormech]

Well its not always that easy! Here in Chatt we have two Sweeneys BBQ.The one dwn town is a BBQ restaurant just like every other BBQ restaurant,while the one in Hixon is a BBQ restaurant that serves alcohol.From first appearances you would not know your going into a place thats no carry!

I agree. I was shocked when I went to the local Red Robin restaurant in Nashville. I had never been before and had no idea they served alcohol. I was violating the law for about a minute before I took my gun back to the car.

[Garufa]

I can plan my weekend now.

[Fallguy]

Lots of times you can look at a restaurants website and see if the serve alcohol.

Both Sweenys and Red Robins have websites and you can see that they serve alcohol from both of them.

But even if a place doesn't have it's own website you can find their phone number and call.

If you're *67 blocks your number from being shown in a caller id.

[Guest db99wj]

I guess I have gotten use to Memphis. If it ain't fast food, they are serving.

[DaveTN]

This will allow Tennessee HCP holders to prevent inadvertent violations of the law. It will also give holders the address to send copies of their receipts for the money they did spend in the non-alcohol-serving restaurant that they might have spent in the licensee's establishment instead if Mr. Naifeh hadn't killed restaurant-carry reform this year.

I think tough economic times are ahead for the restaurant industry in Tennessee. Let's be certain these establishments know of the business they are losing from us because we cannot legally carry in their establishments!

The state of Tennessee makes no bones about trampling all over the only people in these fights that truly have any rights…. The business owners. Just as they did in banning smoking in bars.

If it’s okay with you I’m not going to participate in kicking a victim while they are down. I will leave this issue right at the feet of those responsible for it…. The state legislature. Gun owners have enough enemies without boycotting those that are not their enemies.

[Falcon1]

If it’s okay with you I’m not going to participate in kicking a victim while they are down. I will leave this issue right at the feet of those responsible for it…. The state legislature. Gun owners have enough enemies without boycotting those that are not their enemies.

I have a strong suspicion (unsubstantiated) that the restaurant owners are the ones for whom Mr. Naifeh is so zealously killing restaurant carry reform in Tennessee. If you know that to be incorrect, please let me know (not a challenge, but a genuine request for information ).

[DaveTN]

I have a strong suspicion (unsubstantiated) that the restaurant owners are the ones for whom Mr. Naifeh is so zealously killing restaurant carry reform in Tennessee. If you know that to be incorrect, please let me know (not a challenge, but a genuine request for information ).

I do not know how the restaurant owners feel; I can only guess that like anything else there are mixed opinions. But I know they are the only one with rights at stake.

As a group (gun owners) we are fighting for rights or privileges that many do not think we should, or do have. Yet many of us supported the trampling of the bar owner’s rights with the smoking ban and bars are closing.

Business owners should have the right to do business as they see fit. If they don’t want you to carry in their business; that should be their right. If they want to let you carry; that should be fine also. You can look at this a couple of ways…

1. Right now the same corrupt state government that saw fit to decide no one can smoke in their businesses has decided that no one can carry; the business has no choice.

2. The state of Tennessee does not recognize under either the United States Constitution or the Tennessee State Constitution that you have a right to carry a gun; they have ruled that you clearly do not. However… your state legislature has allowed you the opportunity of purchasing that privilege from the state. Many states don’t have that.

[jughead]

my understanding of tn law is that if the restaurants do not want guns all they have to do is post a sign. why do they need a law that they keep fighting to hang on to.in my opinion there is money going somewhere.

[Falcon1]

I do not know how the restaurant owners feel; I can only guess that like anything else there are mixed opinions. But I know they are the only one with rights at stake.

As a group (gun owners) we are fighting for rights or privileges that many do not think we should, or do have. Yet many of us supported the trampling of the bar owner’s rights with the smoking ban and bars are closing.

I certainly didn't support the smoking ban, and I agree with you there . And, when I'm wrong, I'm wrong :

http://www.thetra.com/associations/4860/files/legislativereport.pdf

(Tennessee Restaurant Association took no position for or against on SB23/HB702).

So, just use the list to be certain one does not inadvertently break the law. I suspect/hope it will be updated regularly.

Edited June 8, 2008 by Falcon1

[Tim Nunan]

my understanding of tn law is that if the restaurants do not want guns all they have to do is post a sign. why do they need a law that they keep fighting to hang on to.in my opinion there is money going somewhere.

With the current law establishments that serve alcohol can pretend they have their hands tied on the carry issue by stating "it's the law" thus implying that if it wasn't they might allow us to carry there. This way those businesses can have it both ways.

[Tobashadow]

Umm this list is incorrect.

For example i went to Athens Pizza Hut last week where i could buy and consume a pitcher of beer and they are not on the list.

[Fallguy]

Umm this list is incorrect.

For example i went to Athens Pizza Hut last week where i could buy and consume a pitcher of beer and they are not on the list.

As previously stated....this is a list of places that serve liquor by the drink and will not include places that only serve beer. The list also doesn't include places that serve package liquor. Although it's not illegal to carry in there anyway, unless posted.

I don't think Pizza Hut serves liquor.

Although they are both alcohol, Liquor and Beer are regulated differently in TN. The state issues liquor licenses and the county or city issues permits for beer sales.