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Unless you need true black powder, walmart carries Pyrodex FFg substitute. Its fairly reasonable. I know Oak Ridge walmart had it last night

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dupont hasnt made black powder in many years.dixir gun works in union city tn ihas several brands of black powder .i like swiss brand myself

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watch your substitutes, some of them are NASTY. Pyrodex is pretty funky. Triple 7 is marginally better.

If you can't find what you're looking for, you should try some Blackhorn 209. It's made by Western Powders and is very clean burning.

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I bought my blackpowder at Bass Pro in Sevierville. They keep it locked up, you have to ask at the firearms counter.

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Yea I would really like to have true black powder. Made by dupont

remember that the real stuff will make sulfuric acid and you need to clean up after it. The substitutes do not. You can make the real stuff pretty easily.

100 parts saltpeter (KNO3) + 18 parts coal + 16 parts sulfur (traditional)

100 parts saltpeter + 24 parts coal (no sulfur)

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There is a gun shop in fountain city that use to carry it. That is where I got it when I lived up there. It's just under the over pass not far from aquatic specialist fish store. It was either WD or Ensley's.

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remember that the real stuff will make sulfuric acid and you need to clean up after it. The substitutes do not. You can make the real stuff pretty easily.

100 parts saltpeter (KNO3) + 18 parts coal + 16 parts sulfur (traditional)

100 parts saltpeter + 24 parts coal (no sulfur)

Couple of things, yes, if black powder itself gets wet, it will make a very, very mild sulfuric acid, however once burnt, it's totally inert. It IS hygroscopic though, & will attract moisture out of the air.

Substitutes (And this goes for ALL substitutes) contain volatile perchlorates which are activated upon ignition. Now these WILL rust a barrel VERY quickly if not cleaned up soon after shooting. More barrels have been wrecked since Pyrodex/Trip 7/ etc... came out than ever were with real black powder.

The subs also need magnum primers, at least, to ignite consistently. The Blackhorn 209 (the clue is in the name) really needs 209 shotgun primers to ignite properly & reliably.

You can buy Goex black powder from any Bass-Pro. You'll need to ask for it at the gun counter, it's not on the shelves.

If you need more in future, you can mail-order it in 5lb quantities from powders inc. in Arkansas. The more you buy, the cheaper it gets.

You technically can make your own & it's not at all difficult to get a 'black powder' but to get a good, reliable, consistent powder takes a lot of practice & some fairly specialized equipment. It's handy chemistry to know, but in the real world, completely useless.

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Couple of things, yes, if black powder itself gets wet, it will make a very, very mild sulfuric acid, however once burnt, it's totally inert. It IS hygroscopic though, & will attract moisture out of the air.

Substitutes (And this goes for ALL substitutes) contain volatile perchlorates which are activated upon ignition. Now these WILL rust a barrel VERY quickly if not cleaned up soon after shooting. More barrels have been wrecked since Pyrodex/Trip 7/ etc... came out than ever were with real black powder.

The subs also need magnum primers, at least, to ignite consistently. The Blackhorn 209 (the clue is in the name) really needs 209 shotgun primers to ignite properly & reliably.

You can buy Goex black powder from any Bass-Pro. You'll need to ask for it at the gun counter, it's not on the shelves.

If you need more in future, you can mail-order it in 5lb quantities from powders inc. in Arkansas. The more you buy, the cheaper it gets.

You technically can make your own & it's not at all difficult to get a 'black powder' but to get a good, reliable, consistent powder takes a lot of practice & some fairly specialized equipment. It's handy chemistry to know, but in the real world, completely useless.

All combustion creates H2O as a byproduct. The very act of using it can make the acid (with unburnt residue if any) which should not be left to sit in your firearm for months on end. It is, however, as you noted, extremely mild and slow acting.

Good to know about the substitutes though, I did not know they were also corrosive. You can tell I have not shot a lot of it, was young and someone else always cleaned up any mess.

Making your own would be an interesting hobby, but agreed, you would want to spend a lot of time at it before you even thought about putting it into your guns. I was half kidding.

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My brother in law and his 2 brothers used to make BP when they were kids to make rocket engines. He said they worked great. I've always wanted to try making my own. Its only 3 ingredients, charcoal(usually willow), sulfur, potassium nitrite. At least I think that's what they are.

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Fox & Company has all types of black powder.

Fox & Company does not carry black powder. I was there just a few day ago and asked. Vendors of real black powder have to get a special license as it's classified as an explosive.

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