Pawlenty leaves Romney campaign

[rcrespo106]

just a few points

1. the only reason he did not claim the full amount of deductions is he had stated he never paid less the 13% in taxes. If this year he claimed all the deduction that would have put under 13% and made him look like a liar.

2. once the election is over he can file an amended tax return and get a nice tax refund of about $500k. (peanuts for him but he will do it anyway)

3. although giving to charity is very commendable the vast majority of his givings where to that cult called the mormon church.

[Guest ThePunisher]

It was his money to give to whomever he wishes to give, but Obama is giving away our taxpayer money that we rightfully earned to buy votes. I'll take the Mormon over the Marxist Commie Moron.

[rcrespo106]

I know I'm not going to sway anyone's opinion of Obama especially here, but since this is a gun forum I also wanted to say something else, both Obama and Romney say one thing and do another when it comes to gun rights. Many people think Obama is out to take everyone guns and although he had some tough talk about gun laws during his original campaign the fact is since Obama took office only 2 pieces of gun legislation has crossed his desk both of which he signed and both of these expanded the rights of gun owners. As for Romney he says he a friend of gun owners and has the support of the NRA but as Governor of MA he signed in a permanent assault weapons ban and implemented some of the toughest gun laws in the country. So you decided when it comes to "GUN LAWS" should you base your opinion of that person based on what they say or what they do? remember actions speak louder then words.

Just note before I get flamed my comments in this post are purely related to there stance on gun rights not taxes not socialize or any of the 100 other reasons you hate Obama. Most of you have already decided who you are voting for. I just wanted to point out some fact that gun lovers may have not known or over looked.

Edited September 29, 2012 by rcrespo106

[Guest ThePunisher]

Obama said he was going to fundamentally transform America, and he so far has done a good job of that. Give him 4 more years, and you won't recognize your country as you've always known it. Yes, actions speak louder than words and Obama's communist actions are getting real loud and clear.

[rcrespo106]

I understand your view of Obama and I don't expect to change it. I'm just purely talking about gun rights and who do you think would do better supporting the 2nd amendment. so far it looks like Obama.

[Oh Shoot]

I understand your view of Obama and I don't expect to change it. I'm just purely talking about gun rights and who do you think would do better supporting the 2nd amendment. so far it looks like Obama.

What do you think the Supreme Court will do to gun rights over the next 25 years once BHO has loaded it with 2 to 3 more justices who will make Kagan and Sotomayor look like conservatives by comparison?

Just one more will tilt the balance to the left, and Kennedy has already said he's gone -- he only waited this long hoping that we'd have a Republican prez.

Almost certainly, Heller and McDonald decisions will be overturned as soon as the right case works its way up. And that won't be the worst of it, not nearly.

- OS

Edited September 29, 2012 by OhShoot

[Guest 6.8 AR]

just a few points

1. the only reason he did not claim the full amount of deductions is he had stated he never paid less the 13% in taxes. If this year he claimed all the deduction that would have put under 13% and made him look like a liar. So,if what you say is actually the case, have

him whipped! Such a sin. dig deeper. Maybe you'll find he had people killed. Um Um Um.

2. once the election is over he can file an amended tax return and get a nice tax refund of about $500k. (peanuts for him but he will do it anyway) Is that anything you couldn't do?

3. although giving to charity is very commendable the vast majority of his givings where to that cult called the mormon church.So you don't like Mormons. I guess that makes that okay.

So, what has he done that you approve of? And what mountaintop do you live on?

[tnhawk]

Why do some want to criminalize candidates who have earned money? Has any candidate for a federal office ever punched a time clock to earn a weekly salary?

It's time to have a leader who knows how to produce instead of drain the economy.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Why do some want to criminalize candidates who have earned money? Has any candidate for a federal office ever punched a time clock to earn a weekly salary?

It's time to have a leader who knows how to produce instead of drain the economy.

I addressed the envy that so many allow to prevail. I guess no one paid attention then, either.

Give it a couple more tries!

[kieefer]

And what's the deal with calling the Mormon religion a cult? I've heard that mouthed the last time Romney ran. I thought people were more tolerant than that?

And why do you care? IF he's going to favor a religion while in office I'd much rather it be one where the believers don't want to behead you over being insulted.

[mikegideon]

I understand your view of Obama and I don't expect to change it. I'm just purely talking about gun rights and who do you think would do better supporting the 2nd amendment. so far it looks like Obama.

The NRA STRONGLY disagrees. So do I.

[Chucktshoes]

I understand your view of Obama and I don't expect to change it. I'm just purely talking about gun rights and who do you think would do better supporting the 2nd amendment. so far it looks like Obama.

The NRA STRONGLY disagrees. So do I.

Is Romney better than Obama on gun issues? No, he actually has an AWB signing on his record.

Is Obama better than Romney? Absolutely not. 3 words for ya, "Fast and Furious."

6 of 1, half a dozen of another.

[RobertNashville]

Anyone who truly thinks that Obama is "better" with regards to the 2A is simply not using the grey matter that should be inside of their head.

I understand that Romney signed an AWB while governor along with some improvements in MA gun laws...I don't consider him a great friend of the 2A.

However, Obama has a voting record against 2A while in Illinois that would make 1,000 Sara Brady's proud...he has been extremely hostile to 2A rights even to a person being allowed to defend himself in his own home... according to Sara Brady, Obama has promised her actions on gun laws that she is pushing for...I've zero doubt that if Obama has anything hit his desk that reduces 2A rights he would sign it without hesitation. I don't believe that is true of Romney.

I also see gun rights as a non-issue in this election anyway...if we don't get this country back on the right track fiscally then "gun laws" will be that last thing we'll need to worry about...being able to afford bread and eggs and gasoline will be at the top of the list.

[strickj]

The NRA STRONGLY disagrees. So do I.

Proof?

I've asked this in several threads and have yet to get an answer. The only thing on NRA's sites is about his past gun grabs, his past "NRA approval" that he lied about and his appearance at the NRA Convention.

Heck far, this is him just two months ago saying the same things he did back 7 years ago while he was governor.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/mitt-romney-nra_n_1704019.html

[mikegideon]

Anyone who truly thinks that Obama is "better" with regards to the 2A is simply not using the grey matter that should be inside of their head.

I understand that Romney signed an AWB while governor along with some improvements in MA gun laws...I don't consider him a great friend of the 2A.

However, Obama has a voting record against 2A while in Illinois that would make 1,000 Sara Brady's proud...he has been extremely hostile to 2A rights even to a person being allowed to defend himself in his own home... according to Sara Brady, Obama has promised her actions on gun laws that she is pushing for...I've zero doubt that if Obama has anything hit his desk that reduces 2A rights he would sign it without hesitation. I don't believe that is true of Romney.

I also see gun rights as a non-issue in this election anyway...if we don't get this country back on the right track fiscally then "gun laws" will be that last thing we'll need to worry about...being able to afford bread and eggs and gasoline will be at the top of the list.

But, there will be plenty of free gov'ment cheese. Come on over the the other side, and get your free cell phone

[mikegideon]

Proof?

I've asked this in several threads and have yet to get an answer. The only thing on NRA's sites is about his past gun grabs, his past "NRA approval" that he lied about and his appearance at the NRA Convention.

Heck far, this is him just two months ago saying the same things he did back 7 years ago while he was governor.

http://www.huffingto..._n_1704019.html

Proof that the NRA disagrees? Don't you get their crap in your mailbox?

[Chucktshoes]

Anyone who truly thinks that Obama is "better" with regards to the 2A is simply not using the grey matter that should be inside of their head.

I understand that Romney signed an AWB while governor along with some improvements in MA gun laws...I don't consider him a great friend of the 2A.

However, Obama has a voting record against 2A while in Illinois that would make 1,000 Sara Brady's proud...he has been extremely hostile to 2A rights even to a person being allowed to defend himself in his own home... according to Sara Brady, Obama has promised her actions on gun laws that she is pushing for...I've zero doubt that if Obama has anything hit his desk that reduces 2A rights he would sign it without hesitation. I don't believe that is true of Romney.

I also see gun rights as a non-issue in this election anyway...if we don't get this country back on the right track fiscally then "gun laws" will be that last thing we'll need to worry about...being able to afford bread and eggs and gasoline will be at the top of the list.

I agree, Romney would hesitate a moment before signing.

All snark aside, I agree that the 2A isn't a major issue this election, or any election for that matter. For those that will surrender privileges at the bidding of Washington, they have no rights and do not matter. For those thy value their rights and know that try exist prior to and independent of the Bill of Rights, what Washington does really doesn't mean a whole lot to them. However, it might end up meaning a whole lot to the politicians who attack those rights before all is said and done.

[strickj]

Proof that the NRA disagrees? Don't you get their crap in your mailbox?

I get junk mail asking for monies.

I'm looking for the proof that tyhe NRA supports him and believes he is 2nd friendly. The only "proof" I have found is aimed in the opposite direction.

[mikegideon]

I get junk mail asking for monies.

I'm looking for the proof that tyhe NRA supports him and believes he is 2nd friendly. The only "proof" I have found is aimed in the opposite direction.

Unless you're subject to Libertarian delusions, "vote Obama out" can only mean one thing. Read this and get back to me on Romney's anti-gun leanings...

http://www.nraila.or...itt-romney.aspx

Edited September 29, 2012 by mikegideon

[Guest 6.8 AR]

This is only me, but I think the main difference I see between the two candidates is Obama wants to change this country

in ways I think most of us would find hideous, to say the least, and Romney may or may not just want to be a patriotic

leader and get this country back on track fiscally, but he could just want to be President.

What I mean about Obama is, he has said the Constitution is a stumbling block to him and he wants to be able to do as

he pleases. He appears to be doing that already by using executive orders to regulate and bypass Congress altogether.

His actions, all along, have led to people getting killed, on several occasions and he has shown his disdain for our country

by his going to many countries apologizing about our country's behavior, breaking protocol by bowing to foreign leaders

and giving aid and comfort to our enemies(for a lack of a better word).

If all Romney has done is his record in MA, and anyone wants to discount his success as a businessman, it is still many

times a better choice than what we have currently in office.

Easy choice for me. I don't even care if the NRA supports him or not.

[strickj]

That's just a link to an interview.

Edited September 29, 2012 by strickj

[mikegideon]

That's just a link to an interview.

Sure. My point was, the NRA has, and continues to preach that Obama needs to be voted out at all costs. There's only one way to do that. Isn't that an endorsement for Romney? No, I don't think Gary Johnson is an option. Good thing too. Monkeys flying out of my ass could be quite painful

[Chucktshoes]

That's just a link to an interview.

An interview full of soft served questions and mealy mouthed answers at that.

[mikegideon]

An interview full of soft served questions and mealy mouthed answers at that.

Imagine that same interview with Obama

[strickj]

Sure. My point was, the NRA has, and continues to preach that Obama needs to be voted out at all costs. There's only one way to do that. Isn't that an endorsement for Romney? No, I don't think Gary Johnson is an option. Good thing too. Monkeys flying out of my ass could be quite painful

The enemy of my enemy can still be my enemy. Just because they want O out doesn't mean that they suppory Romney.

The NRA has not endorsed Romney (and prolly wont) nor have they given him any support whatsoever.

He has been a gun grabber from day one.... while saying that he supports gun rights. the same lines he's spewing now he spewed while going after guns as governor.

I am not a Paul or Johnson supporter. I just hate Romney because he is nothing more than O.v.1.2

Edited September 29, 2012 by strickj