Anyone here own an Argentine Mauser?

[Guest daddyseal]

I found an "Muaser Modelo Argentino 1891" in a house I moved into years ago.

Apparently abandoned by the previous homeowner.

It is a Treasure and in Fine shape~!!...Anyone else have one?

[Jonnin]

I have a like new 1909, I think they are the same caliber (7.65). I shoot mine a few times a year with some light handloads, it is one smooth action and extremely accurate rifle. Some of these have been cut up to 30-06. You can craft loads for it with either a 308 case and 303 british bullets or cut up a 30-06 case with the 303s, both will do but the 06 cases cut down and formed are identical to the original while the 308s are not quite right but good enough. DO NOT SHOOT actual 308 in it, though, the pressure is beyond what your rifle can take.

These are very fine guns, some of the best bolt actions ever produced anywhere. The trigger could use work on mine, but I am not touching it beyond a tiny bit of shooting. If your gun is not cut up in any way and all matching, it could be worth quite a bit in good condition. If you think you have a winner, you need to get an expert appraisal. If not, you have an excellent shooter if you are willing to make or buy the ammo for it.

[JAB]

I have a like new 1909, I think they are the same caliber (7.65).

I've seen that rifle. In fact, I've fired it. When he says 'like new', he means 'like new' as in it could have come off the assembly line last week. Pretty amazing, really.

My nephew recently inherited an Argentine Mauser from my maternal grandfather. My grandfather had a few boxes (the boxes look pretty old - Norma brand, I think) of commercial factory ammo. I haven 't fired his, yet, and it isn't in nearly as good a shape as Jonnin's (the forearm wood was cut back to 'sporterize' it somewhere along the way) but is sure is a big boomer!

Edited September 19, 2012 by JAB

[Guest daddyseal]

I have a like new 1909, I think they are the same caliber (7.65). I shoot mine a few times a year with some light handloads, it is one smooth action and extremely accurate rifle. Some of these have been cut up to 30-06. You can craft loads for it with either a 308 case and 303 british bullets or cut up a 30-06 case with the 303s, both will do but the 06 cases cut down and formed are identical to the original while the 308s are not quite right but good enough. DO NOT SHOOT actual 308 in it, though, the pressure is beyond what your rifle can take.

These are very fine guns, some of the best bolt actions ever produced anywhere. The trigger could use work on mine, but I am not touching it beyond a tiny bit of shooting. If your gun is not cut up in any way and all matching, it could be worth quite a bit in good condition. If you think you have a winner, you need to get an expert appraisal. If not, you have an excellent shooter if you are willing to make or buy the ammo for it.

Unfortunately for resale value, it has be sporterized. But the action is smooth, the barrel and bore are in "sparkling good" condition.

I will do some research on it, reload some 7.62x53 ammo for it and truly enjoy shooting it.

Thank you~!!

[smokndav]

Held one today and would have bought if it had been a 1909. Beautiful gun. Its at farnsworth in Vonore.

[Jonnin]

Unfortunately for resale value, it has be sporterized. But the action is smooth, the barrel and bore are in "sparkling good" condition.

I will do some research on it, reload some 7.62x53 ammo for it and truly enjoy shooting it.

Thank you~!!

You are welcome, whatever I said

If you decide to make brass let me know and I can give you the awful details. It takes me a good 20 min per case. If you are smarter than I am, you will just buy a couple boxes of privi ammo and reload their cases or buy some brass. The good news is that the reformed brass has case wall for a neck and they last until the primers will no longer stay in --- many, many shootings per case.

[klamb5]

I have a 1903 sporterized I bought as a teenager sold it for 6 mouths and bought it back again wont do that again Love that gun .Have hunted deer, hogs both its smooth as can be.If you have to buy ammo its not cheap to shoot but for hunting it packs a punch.The Mauser action has been copied many times for good reason I belive it would have been brutal to face on the battle field.Also I think that around 1891 was when the action was changed not sure which model year but they made it a far better action have to go back and look it up think it had something to do the way it locked up, I say give her a good cleaning and enjoy looking at her and use her when you get the itch to.

Edited September 20, 2012 by klamb5

[Hershmeister]

Ive got one too. You have to bury the front sight to hit at 100yds

+1 on buying privi ammo then reloading it

[Jonnin]

Ive got one too. You have to bury the front sight to hit at 100yds

+1 on buying privi ammo then reloading it

Oh yea.... I also have cooked up a light load that put the sights dead on at 100. Probably a little different for each gun but I can share if you want to punch paper up close with a wimpy loading.

[Clod Stomper]

I have a "sporterized" '91 Argy carbine. They are nice light handy little rifles.

I don't shoot mine anymore. I'm just too paranoid. Haven't had any issues, but they do not have the safety features of the '98 Mausers like the safety lug and the gas "escape port". So if the lugs let go, it's a bad day. I knew a fellow who had a modern bolt rifle blow up on him. Nearly killed him. Sent the bolt through his face. But I'm digressing...

I have only shot underpowered loads in mine. I made my brass from .30-06 cases. Unlike Jonnin, some of my cases only lasted a few loads before the necks cracked. May have been a different brand of brass. I think that if I had re-annealed them, they wouldn't have cracked.

I don't intend to discourage you from shooting it or hunting with it, just remember that it's probably 100+ years old. As stated, making cases is tedious. So if you can get some factory rounds, that's probably the best way to go.

Will

[JAB]

Held one today and would have bought if it had been a 1909. Beautiful gun. Its at farnsworth in Vonore.

I didn't notice that one (if it was there) when I was in there last week. Then, again, my attention was pretty focused on the Marlin 1894 I was putting in lay-away. Was it on the 'mil-surp' rack? He gets some pretty interesting, older milsurp stuff in there. That is where my nephew and I got our Mannlicher carbines and I noticed he had several more of those in stock the other day.

[Clod Stomper]

If anyone is needing brass and doesn't want to form it. Here you go.

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/12652

[Guest Wildogre]

I have an 1891 that was r barreled in the 70s to 257 Roberts it was my uncles and was passed down to me. I do need to shot it a bit more.