Notoriously silent around here, today.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

What's the date?

Kardashians Yep, just like NBC

At least a foreign rag gets it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2201409/9-11-anniversary-World-marks-11-years-September-11-attacks.html

That's just something I'll never forget, regardless how the media works. God bless all those souls,

and all the others involved.

[Caster]

I guess I am a lousy SOB like everyone says. I'm sorry it happened, but are we really gonna have to hear about it every year for the rest of our lives? 3K people was a horrible loss, but other countries have had losses that make that look paltry. We don't hear about them though. I'm not saying forget them, but what good does it do to dwell on it? The only thing it does is promote fear and submission to government control by making the sheeple feel safe for the unconstitutional measures they take to "Keep us safe"

[Guest 6.8 AR]

No, it reminds us to remain vigilant against our own tyrants, as well, Caster. We have let these folks, and ourselves,

down by doing just that. Greg just said that in another thread. If we don't learn from history...

[Spots]

No, it reminds us to remain vigilant against our own tyrants, as well, Caster. We have let these folks, and ourselves,

down by doing just that. Greg just said that in another thread. If we don't learn from history...

+1 I don't remember it to remind me that I should let the government protect me. I remember this day because 3k AMERICANS lost their lives that day, to a group of people who still hate everything we stand for even today. As far as other countrys have much larger losses to other events, while I respect them, those weren't American lives, and they weren't lost in an attack on the country I love and have served.

[Guest MilitiaMan]

It was 11 years ago. None of us will forget, but it's certainly time to move on.

[Caster]

As a country we HAVE let ourselves down. I can certainly agree with that.

Our soldiers have kicked some SERIOUS butt over there too, but there are so many better ways we could have dealt with that. To bad political correctness, hippies and as TGODavid so eloquently put it, the pussification of america, has seriously crippled our ability to deal with them properly. We should have sealed borders and piles of dead bodies to dispose of when they try to come here.

[Spots]

December 7th, 2012 will be 71 years since Pearl Harbor. Should we just move on and not mention that event anymore either? There is a National Pearl Harbor remembrance day for that one, and I wish they would enact a National 9/11 Remembrance day as well.

[Guest MilitiaMan]

December 7th, 2012 will be 71 years since Pearl Harbor. Should we just move on and not mention that event anymore either?

As far as the media circus is concerned, yes. We have moved on from Pearl Harbor. It's not on the news constantly on every anniversary. Remembering, discussing etc is one thing. Flooding media coverage is quite another. Time to move on from 9/11 coverage as well.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Oh, how some folks who wish to "move on" appear to forget how much our lives change with these types

of events. It may not be the root of the change in our society, but it certainly cemented it in place. I'll choose to

remember and work towards something else than what we have now.

Pearl Harbor is also one of them.

[NRA]

9/11 is our generations Pearl Harbor

[Guest FIST]

Move on? Government needed to keep us safe? Too much media coverage?

Turn the damn TV off if it's such a burden and it's killing your regularly scheduled program. The reason this country is turning to #### is because so many have moved on. Moved on from morals, values, and ethics. Moved on from the hard work and dedication that built it. Moved on from relying on our family and friends instead of uncle Sam.

I'll go ahead and not move on. I'll continue to honor our fallen, civilian or Soldier. Maybe some of you don't remember watching the planes strike the towers, maybe you don't remember the blood of your brothers that was spilled on foreign soil. Maybe you don't remember the P.O.W's. Tragedy in another country? How about our boy's stepping off a transport into machine gun fire on D-Day?

I honor their sacrifices by not moving on. You go ahead.

[Caster]

Well, while we're at it, let's not forget the Alamo!

[sigmtnman]

I remember every time I see a DHS SUV sitting in the median of the interstate. Or hear reference to the TSA checkpoints. Or...

They were successful in altering the American way.

[MacGyver]

I definitely had a little bit different morning this year than in years past.

As someone who was in 1WTC that day and spent 9 months there afterwards, my kids know about my involvement there. They're young, though so their understanding is definitely limited.

This morning, though I was driving my oldest daughter who is in kindergarten to school. There was something about it on the radio, and she asked me about it. We got to talking about what happened, and this morning, for the first time, something changed for my daughter. She realized that 2,977 people had been killed that day by those 19 attackers.

In her words, "they didn't get to come home."

How do you explain hatred to a kid?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Move on? Government needed to keep us safe? Too much media coverage?

Turn the damn TV off if it's such a burden and it's killing your regularly scheduled program. The reason this country is turning to #### is because so many have moved on. Moved on from morals, values, and ethics. Moved on from the hard work and dedication that built it. Moved on from relying on our family and friends instead of uncle Sam.

I'll go ahead and not move on. I'll continue to honor our fallen, civilian or Soldier. Maybe some of you don't remember watching the planes strike the towers, maybe you don't remember the blood of your brothers that was spilled on foreign soil. Maybe you don't remember the P.O.W's. Tragedy in another country? How about our boy's stepping off a transport into machine gun fire on D-Day?

I honor their sacrifices by not moving on. You go ahead.

i will, too.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I definitely had a little bit different morning this year than in years past.

As someone who was in 1WTC that day and spent 9 months there afterwards, my kids know about my involvement there. They're young, though so their understanding is definitely limited.

This morning, though I was driving my oldest daughter who is in kindergarten to school. There was something about it on the radio, and she asked me about it. We got to talking about what happened, and this morning, for the first time, something changed for my daughter. She realized that 2,977 people had been killed that day by those 19 attackers.

In her words, "they didn't get to come home."

How do you explain hatred to a kid?

That's one of the hardest things to do. They have to grow up with those kinds of lessons being learned.

There is good and evil. It's the evil that's hardest.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

As far as the media circus is concerned, yes. We have moved on from Pearl Harbor. It's not on the news constantly on every anniversary. Remembering, discussing etc is one thing. Flooding media coverage is quite another. Time to move on from 9/11 coverage as well.

It's not coverage I'm talking about. It's about a sense of existence. It's about living with something called liberty, not tyranny.

[Guest HvyMtl]

Sadly, honoring is not what the media will do with the anniversary. So, I do other things and not watch the fear mongering. If it were so etched and important in the lives of the average Citizen, the 9/11 museum would be open. Oh. Wait.

[Guest FIST]

It has nothing to do with watching some half hearted TV tribute, the government, or any other half cocked reason. It has everything to with remembering and honoring the lives lost.

I don't know anyone that died in the Towers, the pentagon, Or 93. I know many that have fallen since.

What ever reason or capacity that somebody chooses to serve the American people they are serving you, even if you don't know them. They serve you, even though you didn't ask them too. They sacrificed for you, even though you didn't sacrifice for them. They died for you, even though you never risked a hair for them.

That is why we honor our fallen.

[JAB]

I guess I am a lousy SOB like everyone says. I'm sorry it happened, but are we really gonna have to hear about it every year for the rest of our lives? 3K people was a horrible loss, but other countries have had losses that make that look paltry. We don't hear about them though. I'm not saying forget them, but what good does it do to dwell on it? The only thing it does is promote fear and submission to government control by making the sheeple feel safe for the unconstitutional measures they take to "Keep us safe"

Well, at least it looks like I am not the only lousy SOB on here (I prefer heartless a-hole, though, 'cause my mom hasn't done anything wrong.) I agree 100% with what you said. I will further say (as I did in the News-Sentinel comments section today) that if a similar tragedy had taken place in Nashville, Tennessee or Birmingham, Alabama, etc. we probably would no longer be hearing about it in the national media by now.

Edited September 11, 2012 by JAB

[quietguy]

I guess I am a lousy SOB like everyone says. I'm sorry it happened, but are we really gonna have to hear about it every year for the rest of our lives? 3K people was a horrible loss, but other countries have had losses that make that look paltry. We don't hear about them though. I'm not saying forget them, but what good does it do to dwell on it? The only thing it does is promote fear and submission to government control by making the sheeple feel safe for the unconstitutional measures they take to "Keep us safe"

I have to disagree with you on this one. We should see the footage a lot more frequently as a reminder that we live in a dangerous world, and that there are people who will do us harm. We also have to keep in mind that it is exactly the freedoms that we enjoy ( or more appropriate, enjoyed) are the target of both the islamic fundamentalist and our politicians.

Edited September 12, 2012 by quietguy

[Guest ThePunisher]

I have to disagree with you on this one. We should see the footage a lot more frequently a reminder that we live in a dangerous world, and that there are people who will do us harm. We also have to keep in mind that it is exactly the freedoms that we enjoy ( or more appropriate, enjoyed) are the target of both the islamic fundamentalist and our politicians.

Well said. Until the extreme radical Islamist are no longer a threat to us and our allies, then we should never forget this time in our history. If we forget and stick our head in the sand, then it will happen again, only next time it may be worse.

I actually believe a lot of people have totally forgotten this event ever happened. Especially when we are at war with a group of people named Hussein and later we elect a person as President with the same name. Geeze, only in America can you get more stupid.

Edited September 12, 2012 by ThePunisher

[Guest 6.8 AR]

We've left the doors wide open for those to destroy our society and nation from within. Enough will forget to let

that happen while others will have to clean up the mess left over from that previous group of ambivalence.

[quietguy]

We've left the doors wide open for those to destroy our society and nation from within. Enough will forget to let

that happen while others will have to clean up the mess left over from that previous group of ambivalence.

Agree 100%. The lessons of history are implicit, societies like ours don't fall from external pressures. They fall when we become complacent and lose focus on what really matters. Essentially, they fall from textbook liberalism.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Which is death.