So, you can take an online class and get a VA Non-Resident permit?

[timcar86]

http://www.concealed-carry.net/

http://www.onlinegunclass.com/tennessee.php

Does this hold up? Kind of looks like it does. I already have my TN permit but I know a lot of folks that complain about the time issue of an 8 hour course. If this is legit it would be a good way to get more permits in the hands of more people.

[Garufa]

Apparently so. Here's a link to the article for those that don't know what brought this up...http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/03/online-classes-make-it-easy-for-non-virginia-gun-owners-to-get-permits/

I don't approve.

[timcar86]

Looks like a better option would be Arizona...

http://www.arizonaconcealedhandgunclass.com/index.php

Almost all the same states as TN.

[timcar86]

Apparently so. Here's a link to the article for those that don't know what brought this up...http://www.foxnews.c...to-get-permits/

I don't approve.

Just curious, why not?

[Garufa]

Just curious, why not?

It is a privilege granted and regulated by states. I live in Tennessee. Why would I (or anyone else for that matter) need to get a permit from another state? That and I firmly do not believe everyone has the right to carry much less own a gun.

There are people in this state who cannot get a permit or their permit have been revoked for whatever reason. This could be an easy out for them. There is a precedent I shall not name.

Edited September 3, 2012 by Garufa

[timcar86]

That and I firmly do not believe everyone has the right to carry much less own a gun.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The Constitution would disagree with you...

[Garufa]

Blah, blah, blah. 234 years of history proves that the government can and will regulate those rights. Get used to it.

There are a helluva lot of people that have no business around guns. So let's not make this yet another interpretation of the 2nd argument.

[tnhawk]

Virginia will accept firearms training from an NRA course, an out of state training course, current military service or an honorable discharge from the military for a Non-resident permit. A copy of your certificate from your TN permit meets the requirement for a Virginia permit.

[timcar86]

Blah, blah, blah. 234 years of history proves that the government can and will regulate those rights. Get used to it.

Not me. I'll never "get used" to the government infringing on my rights.

[Oh Shoot]

There

Virginia will accept firearms training from an NRA course, an out of state training course, current military service or an honorable discharge from the military for a Non-resident permit. A copy of your certificate from your TN permit meets the requirement for a Virginia permit.

There is zero reason for a Tennessean with HCP to have a VA non-resident permit.

- OS

[nightrunner]

Does VA not have any additional reciprocy states that TN does not?

[Oh Shoot]

Does VA not have any additional reciprocy states that TN does not?

None.

I'm not sure that any other permit in the US would add any states to our 39.

- OS

Edited September 4, 2012 by OhShoot

[Chucktshoes]

And no other state's permit would allow a TN resident to carry inside the state of TN. Just ask Voldemort.

[Oh Shoot]

And no other state's permit would allow a TN resident to carry inside the state of TN. Just ask Voldemort.

True, once you've been a TN resident for 6 months.

- OS

Edited September 4, 2012 by OhShoot

[TMF]

And no other state's permit would allow a TN resident to carry inside the state of TN. Just ask Voldemort.

Interesting. I just learned something new.

[JayC]

Blah, blah, blah. 234 years of history proves that the government can and will regulate those rights. Get used to it.

There are a helluva lot of people that have no business around guns. So let's not make this yet another interpretation of the 2nd argument.

And what happens if an overpaid government bureaucrat decided you're one of those people? It's not a power we the people of Tennessee gave to the federal government, nor a power we gave to the state government.

Anyhow it's not legal for a resident of TN to carry on another state's permit. (unless they've been a resident for less than 6 months), but lets be honest the VAST majority of police officers would have no clue about that... I'm aware of sub-21 year olds who are carrying on out of state permits (who are not TN residents) and the police don't make a fuss about it with them.

Edited September 4, 2012 by JayC

[tnhawk]

Does VA not have any additional reciprocy states that TN does not?

A TN permit is honored in 9 states that will not honor a Non-resident VA permit.

[piercedan]

The Arizona permit looked better... until I read the info from Chucktshoes. My wife went through the eight hour course but failed to go by and get her permit. She misplaced her paperwork and found it two days after it expired. She now has to pay another $100 and sit through another all day course. I thought maybe she could find a shortcut, but I guess not.

[Makiaveli]

True, once you've been a TN resident for 6 months.

- OS

So if a TN resident got a non-resident VA permit, they could carry in other states, but not TN? Just trying to be clear on this?

[Oh Shoot]

So if a TN resident got a non-resident VA permit, they could carry in other states, but not TN? Just trying to be clear on this?

Don't see why not.

Except that a few states don't recognize another state's non-resident permit at all. Ironically, FL is one of them, even though FL issues a non-resident and honors it.

- OS

[Guest Grubbah]

Don't see why not.

Except that a few states don't recognize another state's non-resident permit at all. Ironically, FL is one of them, even though FL issues a non-resident and honors it.

- OS

And what I find even more odd than that, is that Wisconsin honors the VA non-resident permit. But not the resident permit. Go figure.

[Oh Shoot]

And what I find even more odd than that, is that Wisconsin honors the VA non-resident permit. But not the resident permit. Go figure.

Wow, I see that under handgunlaw.us. No explanation of reason there, how bizarre.

- OS

[Guest MilitiaMan]

I only have a TN HCP. "If" I were to have another, I would try to get a Utah permit. If that's even possible anymore. I think I read somewhere it was near impossible for out of state residents after Jan 2012. Or something to that effect.

[Oh Shoot]

I only have a TN HCP. "If" I were to have another, I would try to get a Utah permit....

Why?

- OS

[Jamie Jackson]

When I came to East TN on a Travel assignment in the beginning of '06 I carried on a Florida Non-Resident permit. I came from MS and let the State permit I had from MS expire (I'd had it since 1990). Florida, at that time simply had better coverage / reciprocity.

Once we made the decision to stay in TN and make it our home, I took the State approved course and got my TN permit.

I checked with the AG's office and MS-DPS in MS prior to letting my MS permit expire in lieu of the Florida permit...I did the same with the TN AG's office and THP regarding carrying on my Florida Permit until I got TN Permit...just wanting to stay legal.

So they (non-resident permits) can have a use.

TN's reciprocity has grown a good bit in those few years and I personally don't see a need to have any other than my TN permit.

The AG's and HP's have been good resources for me in the past, and I'm sure they'd remain so if folks have a question.

Of Course I think we shouldn't have to request a privilege when we have a Right.

It's a nest we collectively made over the last few generations. It's not comfortable to lay in. But it's what we have. At least for now.