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hard to hit the bad guy when you have to use your entire body weight to pull on a NYC approved trigger system I guess.

Hard to hit the bad guy when you're trying to run away, shooting one handed, sideways and almost behind your back :)

I've seen gangbangers with better firing discipline.

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How did you get that from his post?

...An atheist or agnostic would not be following "god's law" (whatever that is, are we talking leviticus? the 10 commandments? Shairia? Jewish? Hindu? Buddah? ....... ??!!!) but might still follow most of man's laws (does not murder, steal, rape, or drive at excessive speed?). IE there are plenty of law abiding folks that follow the laws of their state and country without burning any animals or whatever.

It was really just an offhand comment to an offhand opinion, both using fun with statistics that don't exist. Jonnin sums up the rationale pretty well, methinks.

Some of the significant "laws of God" in the major world religions are incorporated as secular law in the countries of each religion's traditional majority adherence, but of course there are many others that are not. It's logical to assume that non-believers break more religious laws than believers, but not that they break more of the secular ones too.

Here in the predominately Christian USA for example, only three of the Ten Commandments clearly find their way into secular criminal law (theft, murder, and libel/slander/perjury), although adultery can be expensive and there may still be some Sunday blue laws scattered here and there. :)

Don't get all excited, I didn't mean to foment a religious debate, sorry for the hijack.

- OS

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I read an article that actor Jim Carrey made a comment that our 2nd Amendment needs to be reversed as a response to this shooting.

He just went onto my douchebag list. No more Jim Carrey movies for my family.

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I read an article that actor Jim Carrey made a comment that our 2nd Amendment needs to be reversed as a response to this shooting.

He just went onto my douchebag list. No more Jim Carrey movies for my family.

Who's that?? :shrug: Edited by SWJewellTN
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