picked up my thumper today

[nightrunner]

A Marlin 1895 in .45/70 Gov't. that is.

cant wait to shoot it.

[Guest I_AM_WOOD]

very nice! although I have absolutely no use for one, it is on my list.

[nightrunner]

i really dont have a reason for it either, lol. im probably going to try to get into deer hunting this upcoming season and use it for that, i just like a leveraction rifle and i shot my brothers NEF handi-rifle in .45/70 and knew i had to have one. I also like it because .45/70 was the first self-contained cartridge commercially available

[KahrMan]

Cool. I think you will really like. They are a blast to shoot.

Here is my thumper... 1895 in 45/70 with the barrel shortened to 16" and a scout scope.

[ShaunM]

NICE RIFLE.

[nightrunner]

couple questions KahrMan,

how did shortening the barrel affect the way it shoots? did it shorten the effective range? increase muzzle blast, or recoil?

does the front sight obstruct the view through the scope?

Very nice rifle you have.

[KahrMan]

couple questions KahrMan,

how did shortening the barrel affect the way it shoots? did it shorten the effective range? increase muzzle blast, or recoil?

does the front sight obstruct the view through the scope?

Very nice rifle you have.

First three questions...not sure. i bought it this way so no frame of reference for comparison. I can tell you this, it is exceptionally well balanced. I was shooting it yesterday and would put the recoil on par with a bolt action 30-06.

The front sight does not obstruct the view through the scope although you can see it. The scope has a standard duplex reticle and the front sight comes up about half way between the bottom of the scope and the horizontal crosshair. After a couple of shots you get used to it and hardly notice it is there. The scope has quick detach rings so I dont want to mess with the front sight.

[nightrunner]

i wish i had something to compare recoil to. only high-powered rifles ive shot are my AR and this 1895 the 1895 is MUCH more fun to shoot IMO, love the recoil it has with 300gr. bullets.

[I_Like_Pie]

One word...reload!!! Big money otherwise. 350 grain laser-cast with 26 grains of Alliant 2400 is a "do anything" load.

[nightrunner]

even though i LOVE the feel of it, its just waaaayyy to expensive to shoot recreationally. at 26.50 for 20 rounds for the cheap stuff, i wont be going to the range and going through 1-200 rounds at a sitting.

there is a place nearby where i think it is a professional reloading shop where you go to them tell them what you want and they load it for you, never been but will check into it.

i dont have the place or proper instruction to get started in reloading/handloading. besides i dont shoot THAT often but would probably shoot more if i had the ammo to shoot....

[Guest grimel]

couple questions KahrMan,

how did shortening the barrel affect the way it shoots? did it shorten the effective range? increase muzzle blast, or recoil?

Shortening the barrel should result in a better crown & a stiffer barrel, so, it should shoot better. The reasonable effective range isn't changed. The muzzle blast goes up.

To me, the 1895 45/70 feels like a 12ga.

[nightrunner]

To me, the 1895 45/70 feels like a 12ga.

not even close to me IMO. 12ga. is much more in my perception. my 20 ga. kicks more than it does with birdshot. those are just bone stock hunting guns though, no recoil reduction

[Guest grimel]

not even close to me IMO. 12ga. is much more in my perception. my 20 ga. kicks more than it does with birdshot. those are just bone stock hunting guns though, no recoil reduction

I have the Guide Gun with a straight stock. I'm guessing at least a half pound difference in weight. That said, I really can't tell much difference in my 20ga and 12ga; probably because my 20ga is lighter than my 12ga.

I loves my GG. Had it out 2 Saturdays ago shooting it 1 handed (from the shoulder) 'cause I'm only 6wks out of shoulder surgery. It didn't kick any different than my 12ga (Browning A-5 with 22" barrel).

[Mike.357]

i dont shoot THAT often but would probably shoot more if i had the ammo to shoot....

repeat after me " the .22 LR is your friend"

[nightrunner]

repeat after me " the .22 LR is your friend"

i got a couple of those on the short list to get

[Daniel]

i came to this thread looking for one of these

Edited May 27, 2008 by Daniel

[nightrunner]

red x here buddy

[Daniel]

how about now?

[I_Like_Pie]

not even close to me IMO. 12ga. is much more in my perception. my 20 ga. kicks more than it does with birdshot. those are just bone stock hunting guns though, no recoil reduction

I have a load that, at 1850fps with a 405 grain bullet, has over 40 ft/lb of free recoil energy coming from a 7 lb rifle...An evil, evil load.

Factory loaded 45/70 rounds are not even close to what a guide gun is capable of.

[nightrunner]

Pie, can you calculate recoil energy or does it have to be measured? id like to know the difference in a couple of factory loads

[I_Like_Pie]

Pie, can you calculate recoil energy or does it have to be measured? id like to know the difference in a couple of factory loads

CLICK HERE

The powder charge space is not as critical as bullet and velocity. Go to any of the reloading sights and they will tell you a "factory duplication" load that can be entered for powder weight if you really want to get close.