Property dispute

[gregintenn]

Not likely. Doesn't sound like they have violated any environmental laws. No water quality hazards.

It does seem that the agricultural industry does have more leeway than the roadbuilders I deal with have, but any speck of erosion violates environmental regs with us. Perhaps someone in the local forestry department would be a better choice.

[Lumber_Jack]

It does seem that the agricultural industry does have more leeway than the roadbuilders I deal with have, but any speck of erosion violates environmental regs with us. Perhaps someone in the local forestry department would be a better choice.

Pretty much have to be pouring mud directly into an intermediate or perineal stream before any notice of violation from TDEC. And even then all they'd have to do is cover the erosion are with vegetation (hay &grass seed) and not really fix the roadway.

[gregintenn]

Pretty much have to be pouring mud directly into an intermediate or perineal stream before any notice of violation from TDEC. And even then all they'd have to do is cover the erosion are with vegetation (hay &grass seed) and not really fix the roadway.

If it were that easy for roadbuilding, you'd have the best highways in the nation and considerably lower taxes.

[Mark@Sea]

Take a bit more than 2 loads of gravel... it is just shy of 1800 feet long. About a 450 ft change in elevation from one end to the other.

I'm waiting for an excavating/grading guy to give me a quote now.

Edited August 18, 2012 by Mark@Sea

[dlm37015]

do like i did call the epa get the logging stopped right now because of soil erosion i hate to say it but they really like to go after loggers.then they will make them fix your road and build another one for logging with a time frame to do it . if you need help pm me i will get you in touch with them

[Lumber_Jack]

do like i did call the epa get the logging stopped right now because of soil erosion i hate to say it but they really like to go after loggers.then they will make them fix your road and build another one for logging with a time frame to do it . if you need help pm me i will get you in touch with them

It doesn't sound to me like there is as much erosion as some trees felled in the road that damaged it. I would really hate to call the EPA, I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy. Plus, again erosion only affects forestry if its getting in the stream. Especially since they are not violating any laws (as far as I can tell thru the interwebs) . Call the county forester they will tell you if it's and environmental issue.

Edited August 18, 2012 by Lumber_Jack

[subsonic]

OP, You mentioned that a drainage pipe had become silted. Are there any streams/wetlands affected? Besides getting a lawyer over the easement issue, the state and feds can wreak havoc on their logging too. My wife is an environmental attorney, she did a lot of work for developers where a project would adversely affects wetlands. Doesn't matter if it's on private land or not. Just a thought.

[Mark@Sea]

They've wrecked 1 small spring-fed stream and are currently working around another one. Neither crosses my property, though.

I don't want to shut them down, just want them to stop wrecking my road, such as it is.

[frankmako]

when it comes to land problems and when the other party will not do the right thing it is better to get a lawer and/or the courts involed.

[dlm37015]

if they have blocked a drain pipe or ditch call the epa if they wont work for you they will work for the epa whether they want to or not as lumber jack says they being the epa are not frindly folks but you life style has been violated jack them up

[Lumber_Jack]

Silting a drainage ditch isn't a violation of the Clean Water Act, even of its completely plugged. Again erosion only involves TDEC or EPA if a stream is directly affected by sediment. And then the enviros would only make them stop the erosion, they wouldn't have to repair your driveway, or even clean out the culvert.

Your best solution is a personal real estate lawyer. This is a property infringement issue not a environmental issue.

Now Mark, if you feel there is mud contaminating a stream, by all means, call TDEC, but I didn't get that feeling from your description.

[dlm37015]

look and see if they have spilt any fuel or oil .soil erosion is covered by epa so is the blockage of the spring but even a small fuel spill will shut them down if they are not willing to work with you then jack them up dont mess with them go to the goverment agencys give them something to do thats why we pay them