Should Obama & Congress Be Arrested Under The NDAA?

[plank white]

Let’s ask the question here: Should Barack Obama and the Congress be arrested and sent to Gitmo for violating the NDAA. After all the Congress passed it and Barack Obama signed it. I’m sure much of you believe that more than that should happen and it wouldn’t just be dependent upon the NDAA, but does what happened last week indicate that such persons as Barack Obama, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain should be wearing and orange jump suit an some leg irons soon?

Understand something, Congress passes some 55,000 pages a year in new laws! Yet, for the most part they never read one page of them. They passed the NDAA into law. What’s worse is that GOP presumptive nominee Mitt Romney said that he supported NDAA as written, thus withholding the rights of citizens to due process, under the Constitution, because he says so.

The NDAA text affirms the President’s authority to detain, via the Armed Forces, any person,

“who was part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners,†and anyone who commits a “belligerent act†against the U.S. or its coalition allies, under the law of war, “without trial, until the end of the hostilities authorized by the [AUMF].â€

The text also authorizes trial by military tribunal, or

“transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country of origin,†or transfer to “any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.â€

An amendment to the Act that would have explicitly forbidden the indefinite detention without trial of American citizens was rejected by the Senate.

According to a Reuters story from Wednesday, August 1, 2012, Barack Obama and the Congress authorized support, specifically $25 million of taxpayer money, to help Syrian rebels,

President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, sources familiar with the matter said.

Obama’s order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence “finding,†broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.

This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad’s armed opponents – a shift that intensified following last month’s failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.

The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that.

What most people aren’t asking is, just who are these rebels? Well the answer lies buried at the bottom of the article:

Recent news reports from the region have suggested that the

influence and numbers of Islamist militants, some of them connected to al Qaeda or its affiliates, have been growing among Assad’s opponents.

U.S. and European officials say that, so far, intelligence agencies do not believe the militants’ role in the anti-Assad opposition is dominant.

While U.S. and allied government experts believe that the Syrian rebels have been making some progress against Assad’s forces lately, most believe the conflict is nowhere near resolution, and could go on for years.

John Aziz rightly asks,

If providing material assistance to al-Qaeda is illegal under the National Defence Authorization Act (2012), and Obama and Congress are sending $25 million of aid to al-Qaeda-affiliated Syrian opposition, aren’t Congress and President Obama violating their own law? Should Obama (or at least the Justice Department) not be using “all necessary and appropriate force†including “the power to indefinitely detain†to prevent Obama and Congress from assisting al-Qaeda? Did anyone in Congress or the Obama administration even bother to read the law that they were signing? Do Federal laws no longer apply to lawmakers?

John is not the only one asking such a question. Fox News’ Ben Swann is also asking simliar questions as to whether Al-Qaeda is an enemy or not? I think those are good questions for sure, but even more pressing and the more dangerous question is have our elected representatives and the current occupant of the White House become domestic enemies against our Constitution? I would say that a majority of them, with very few exceptions have become just that.

Read more: http://freedomoutpos...under-the-ndaa/

Edited August 7, 2012 by plank white

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Interesting, but I'm sure he exempted himself along with Congress. They always do.

[Oh Shoot]

Interesting, but I'm sure he exempted himself along with Congress. They always do.

What Reid said about Romney's tax stuff the other day would possibly incur civil litigation for slander and defamation of character, except that he said it on the floor in Congress and is hence specially exempted from criminal charges. That's why he said them so boldly there.

- OS

[mikegideon]

What Reid said about Romney's tax stuff the other day would possibly incur civil litigation for slander and defamation of character, except that he said it on the floor in Congress and is hence specially exempted from criminal charges. That's why he said them so boldly there.

- OS

You got me confused. Slander and defamation are civil, right? How does being exempt from criminal charges impact that?

[Oh Shoot]

You got me confused. Slander and defamation are civil, right? How does being exempt from criminal charges impact that?

Well, meant they are exempt from either/both, short of physically attacking someone or something.

Article 1, Section 1

“Congress shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.â€

Of course, at least half the legislation passed should be treasonable, but that's another debate I guess.

- OS

Edited August 7, 2012 by OhShoot

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Actually, his directive toward DHS and ICE to ignore

immigration laws are treasonous acts.

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[gjohnsoniv]

Like all laws, they should apply to everyone equally. No exceptions for Congress or other elected officials.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

Now see, if we only assign control of all drones to SkyNet we could solve these problems. SkyNet would have noted the violation of NDAA by congress and president, and then taken them out via drone strikes (as approved by NDAA). Problem solved!