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What's liberal about the liberals?


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Admittedly, I don't know much about politics. They talk about the elections on TV and they may as well be speaking Hindi, I can't understand a thing they're talking about. Really don't care much either.

BUT..Liberal? What is liberal about the liberal? You can be gay and murder an unborn child or worship the flying spaghetti monster? Is that it? Where is the liberty that is the root word of LIBERAL? If they're so LIBERAL why are THEY constantly passing law after law after law? Conservatives don't want all these laws? I'm confused? If they're so liberal, why are they trying their best to turn us into a slave nation? WHat's liberal about being told what to do in EVERY aspect of your life? Why is this such a mystery to me? Why is such a simple minded, half educated redneck like me able to see that they are not liberals but manipulative control freaks?

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Classical Liberalism or modern progressive liberals?

I've come to understand modern progressive liberal are hypocrites who want a nice car, but want to complain about cutting the tree down to build the factory to build the nice car. They want everyone to get a trophy regardless of how crappy they perform and want the state to make everything fair. <Insert a myriad of other craziness here>.

Classical Liberals want to be left the hell alone and for the government to go away, except for common defense (not offense), to protect property rights and enforce contracts.

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In the USA, at one point the difference was the constitution. A liberal thinks it is flexible, a conservative would have it set in stone and ammended if a change is needed. Neither side fits THAT anymore. There is also a world-wide liberal vs conservative usage, and also a world-wide social (liberal, conservative) usage, and an economic version, and a couple more.

these days both sides go against their own platform to cater to voters which makes it even muddier. For example liberals champion the individual and his rights --- until the individual wants to own a gun or be a christian or speak out against illegal aliens. The conservatives champion freedom and small governement, until the government wants to enforce "christianesque" morality, that is ok for some reason.

Trying to make sense of it today is pointless. There are a few major talking points but people have become so polarized into one camp or the other that at times it seems like whichever side has any idea or stance, the other side takes the opposite stance out of spite.

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Guest 6.8 AR

I think the modern day liberal

acts like he wants to be the

protector of the individual, but

doesn't give a damn for anything

than the collective.

Saying and doing don't diverge

with today's liberal.

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Classical Liberals want to be left the hell alone and for the government to go away, except for common defense (not offense), to protect property rights and enforce contracts.

Well I never thought I would say that Identify with anything resembling a liberal but I like this idea very much.

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Guest bkelm18

In my view, both liberals and conservatives get a lot of things right. And on the flip side, both will have a hand in the destruction of this country.

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