Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day

[Wingshooter]

Still pretty crowded after 7 at the one near me.

I sure hope all them Christian conservatives turn out in same proportion on Nov. 2 against our pro gay marriage President.

- OS

I do too. I'll be there voting against him!

[East_TN_Patriot]

Well, Emanuel in Chicago and Memino in Boston both said they didn't want them in their fair cities, that's seems rather impolite to say the least, if not "punishing".

Rahm was really a riot, saying that Chick-Fil-A did not express "Chicago values". It is to laugh.

- OS

Yes, this is the part that does peeve me. While Chicago is coming apart at the seams, Rahm is worried about a fast food chain.

No government should have the power to ban or block a business based on some political topic like this if they otherwise qualify for a business license in that jurisdiction.

Or a mosque, but I digress...

Edited August 2, 2012 by East_TN_Patriot

[hipower]

I must take exception to the above statement.

I've followed the Chick-fil-a reporting for several days now, and have yet to identify the "bigot who infringes on others rights" in this story.

I do celebrate and support Mr. Cathy's exercise of religious freedom, and free expression of same. I condemn the facists in government who seek to deny his business based on his personal beliefs.

If that's bigotry - if you have specific evidence of bigotry in this case - or can show where TGO members celebrate and support such - then by all means, bring it up for discussion. Otherwise, check your mirror...

BTW, Chick-fil-a's support around the country is overwhelming, to say the least.

I must take exception to the above statement.

I've followed the Chick-fil-a reporting for several days now, and have yet to identify the "bigot who infringes on others rights" in this story.

I do celebrate and support Mr. Cathy's exercise of religious freedom, and free expression of same. I condemn the facists in government who seek to deny his business based on his personal beliefs.

If that's bigotry - if you have specific evidence of bigotry in this case - or can show where TGO members celebrate and support such - then by all means, bring it up for discussion. Otherwise, check your mirror...

BTW, Chick-fil-a's support around the country is overwhelming, to say the least.

Thank you for stating this so clearly. I was having trouble finding the right words to express my thoughts and not resort to "bigotry" in say that the denial or attempted denial of operating a business because of a statement of personal religious belief, not declining service to a segment of the population that didn't share that belief; was a bit one sided.

Bigotry does go both ways.

[vontar]

I wish i had known, I would have went.

[Wingshooter]

I happily waited nearly an hour at lunch time. I was planning on stopping for mor chikin this evening, but the line looked longer at Cleveland's C-F-A than it did at lunch! I didn't have time to stop again this evening, but I wanted to.

Edited August 2, 2012 by Batman

[Good_Steward]

Rahm was really a riot, saying that Chick-Fil-A did not express "Chicago values". It is to laugh.

- OS

He must have meant that Chik-Fil-A is not beating 87 year old war vets half to death.....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-wwii-vet-robbed-beaten-20120801,0,4086285.story

[Wingshooter]

Looks like big crowds in the windy city also...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/14154442-418/anti-gay-marriage-comments-draws-big-crowd-to-suburban-chick-fil-a.html

[R_Bert]

at 9pm, the one in Turkey Crrek, Knoxville was packed out probably well over 200 people, and drive was solid for about a block. The manager told us it was the smallest crowd since they opened this morning. After we left, someone posted that it was running out of food.

[Major Kong]

The Bill of Rights is not an all-inclusive list of rights. It is a list of rights that were especially important to the anti-Federalists who demanded that certain rights be specifically included in the Constitution. Our nation is founded on the concept of Natural Rights, which assumes that we are all born with "certain inalienable rights" including "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." It's kind of hard for people to enjoy life, liberty, and pursue happiness when people are saying they can't marry because people have a particular interpretation of a couple of select verses in the Christian Bible. I don't care how people choose to live their lives and who they want to marry or have sex with. As long as they are consenting adults, what business is it of mine? I have known many homosexual couples in my life and there are a few same-sex couples who attend my church. They have never hurt me. Why should I judge them because they sin differently than I do? We have a lot more serious problems in this country than this diversion.

You're taking me out of context. I brought up Bill of Rights because the comparison was made between 2nd Amendment and gay marriage. As I said before, "Right to Happiness" is not in the Constitution nor does it outweigh the law. The law in TN says gay marriage is not legal. It doesn't matter how much you or anyone else wants gay marriage to be a right, it isn't.

As I stated before, I don't particularly give a damn who gets married. I just don't want your beliefs shoved down my throat anymore than you want mine.

Edited August 2, 2012 by Major Kong

[Wingshooter]

Friends of mine in Maryland said the one they visited ran out of food.

[Major Kong]

He must have meant that Chik-Fil-A is not beating 87 year old war vets half to death.....

http://www.chicagotr...0,4086285.story

As if I needed another reason to never spend another minute or dollar in Chicago...

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I used to think it was a little pricey and it is, but you know what? It's like trading with a local business or any other business that supports the ideals you hold dear. Sometimes the money means nothing. I know I've eaten there a lot more than I did a few years ago.

Thanks Caster. Might ought to try one of their sammiches sometime if its supposed to taste pretty good. Haven't et any chicken sammich that could hold a candle to a good ole greasy burger or a sausage, egg cheeze biscuit. But I love ordinary old greasy fried chicken better than any kind of sammich.

Maybe. Me, personally, I agree with their message, and will help support them through the barrage of derogatory media sent their way because of that. Obviously, I support peoples right to speak their mind and stand up for their morals, it does not mean i have to support them or what they support if I do not agree with it.

Thanks Good Steward. Was thinking out loud trying to figure it out. Since I don't have an axe to grind on either side of gay marriage or christianity, was trying to figure out if it seemed reasonable to support a biz just because one guy says something that other folks take exception to. There were people who went out of their way to support the dixie chicks because they thought it some kind of free speech issue. But the chicks' offended fans had right to withdraw support, and I neither liked their music or agreed with what they said, so it seemed kinda pointless to rise to their defense "just because" they have some kind of constitutional right to be big stars even if they make the fans mad. Was trying to see if anything else was going on here. BTW, kept meaning to congratulate you on the new job. Plant manager of two plants is a responsible position of which you should be justifiably proud.

Well, Emanuel in Chicago and Memino in Boston both said they didn't want them in their fair cities, that's seems rather impolite to say the least, if not "punishing".

Rahm was really a riot, saying that Chick-Fil-A did not express "Chicago values". It is to laugh.

Thanks OS. If the cities snatch business licenses or levy fines then it sounds like grounds for a monstrous first amendment lawsuit with the taxpayers of those fair cities eventually on the hook to subsidize chickfila with millions of dollars after the cities lose the court cases? Maybe there would even be some kind of infrigement for officials to mouth off about the issue even if they don't do anything to punish the biz? However that would be forbidding politicians to use political speech. A politician exercising political speech is most likely kosher even if smarmy? Any politician who said anything in chickfila's defense would be equally guilty if an official mouthing off is in itself an infringement of the first amendment?

[Guest FIST]

So many people are off base here, a few get it. It's not about gay marriage!

It's free speech. The owners comments have the mayors in several cities stating they "WILL NOT!" allow Chick Fil A to opens stores in their city. The company has no anti gay anything in any policy and do not refuse service to them, so tell me where a city feels they can dictate what buisness opens assuming all other requirements are met based on the owners statement?

If I'm wrong on this can someone please point me in the right direction? Isn't the first amendment real, or is it only my imagination?

Am I a bigot or a hate monger for believing in free speech? If it was an anti traditional marriage buisness being blocked from a city wouldnt the support from the gay community be the same? Would that be free speech then?

[Guest Nikator]

So many people are off base here, a few get it. It's not about gay marriage!

It's free speech. The owners comments have the mayors in several cities stating they "WILL NOT!" allow Chick Fil A to opens stores in their city. The company has no anti gay anything in any policy and do not refuse service to them, so tell me where a city feels they can dictate what buisness opens assuming all other requirements are met based on the owners statement?

If I'm wrong on this can someone please point me in the right direction? Isn't the first amendment real, or is it only my imagination?

Am I a bigot or a hate monger for believing in free speech? If it was an anti traditional marriage buisness being blocked from a city wouldnt the support from the gay community be the same? Would that be free speech then?

You have he right to speak freely. It does not mean that there won't be repurcussions. It just means you won't go to jail.

[R_Bert]

It is also about bullying. Tired of getting shoved around for having traditional beliefs.

Oh yeah. At least two customers carried weapons inside of Chik-Fil-A today, and nothing happened.

Edited August 2, 2012 by R_Bert

[sigbrown1297]

I love how all the lefties are going crazy because Dan Cathy spoke his beliefs. They just need to start their own successful business and so they can give money to organizations that support gay marriage instead of doing absolutely nothing but helping Chick-fil-A. Because of them, Chick-fil-a is getting tons of free PR and advertising. Dan must be loving this right now. Who's really the ignorant and intolerant ones now???

[Guest ThePunisher]

I was passing by the Rivergate Mall area tonight around 8:00 and the Chic-fil-a drive thru was backed up all the way out into the Mall road beside it, and inside was backed up to outside. I wanted to stop and support them but was not going to wait forever in line.

[TripleDigitRide]

Although this is partly a free-speech issue, if the subject wasn't gay marriage, almost no one would be showing this kind of support.

If the CEO of C-F-A said that he believed Chevy was better than Ford and pissed off the Ford lovers, no one would be waiting in line to show support for his 1A right.

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[Guest ThePunisher]

Although this is partly a free-speech issue, if the subject wasn't gay marriage, almost no one would be showing this kind of support.

If the CEO of C-F-A said that he believed Chevy was better than Ford and pissed off the Ford lovers, no one would be waiting in line to show support for his 1A right.

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I believe it is also freedom of religion issue as well as freedom of speech.

O'Reilly tonight said it was fascism on the part of the mayors.

Edited August 2, 2012 by ThePunisher

[chances R]

It is not hard to believe the support. Everytime gay marriage is on the ballot it loses. It is simply the majority exercising their viewpoint and supporting a business that believes the same way. Nothing wrong with standing by your principles. Not hard to believe Chicago and Chick-Fil-A would have differing viewpoints.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I believe it is also freedom of religion issue as well as freedom of speech.

Both speech and religion are 1st amendment issues.

O'Reilly tonight said it was fascism on the part of the mayors.

Undoubtedly I'm small-minded and petty but there is such a thing as waving a red flag in front of a bull! O'Reilly criticising fascism is like a pot criticizing a kettle.

[RobertNashville]

I find this topic ironic.

When someone says / does something that threatens gun owners rights nearly 100% of the response is "don't infringe on my ####ing rights."

When some bigot infringes on others rights ya'll celebrate and support it.

I don't support or deny others from what makes them happy, as long as its legal and don't infringe on my rights.

Exactly who's rights were infringed?

How does an opinion held by one person infringe on the rights of anyone else to do whatever the hell they want to do?

If I think people should do or not do "X", does the simple fact that I think that in any way prevent someone from doing it?

Edited August 2, 2012 by RobertNashville

[Mark@Sea]

You have he right to speak freely. It does not mean that there won't be repurcussions. It just means you won't go to jail.

I'd have to say that considering your previous post, you are more correct in this assumption than you may realize.

It really upsets some people that others are allowed a differing opinion. Those who believe in the Bible believe that homosexuality is a sin. Those who understand morality know that homosexuality is immoral. They are entitled to this belief. They are entitled to support others who share this belief. Hate Crime legislation is as close as this country comes to thought crime, yet even the SCOTUS has said that people are entitled to express their opinions - even (maybe especially) when the opinion is unpopular.

Having Gov't officials threaten his livelihood because of his beliefs - well, guess you're okay with that, then?

[Guest ThePunisher]

Both speech and religion are 1st amendment issues.

Yeah, but some people might think its ok to have freedom of speech such as flag burning, but don't believe in freedom of worship.

And it seems this BS political correctness is curbing our freedom of speech.

Edited August 2, 2012 by ThePunisher

[RobertNashville]

I support his free speech, and if a private company wants to incorporate religious ideals in their philosophy, go ahead. You still can't get around the bigotry of the statement, and in our modern free society, they run the risk of alienating potential customers. I don't think it will hurt them as every Chick Fil A I see is completely packed at lunch time.

I don't think there is a single major religion in the world that accepts marriage between two homosexuals as morally acceptable so I guess in your opinion, only those who have no religions convictions at all is not a bigot???

If my religion teaches that the color of the sky is green and I fervently believe that the color of the sky is green; does it actually hurt anyone at all?

Edited August 2, 2012 by RobertNashville