Fun day at the range with a R.E.P.R and SCAR

[atlas3025]

So I went out to JSR in Knoxville over the weekend to test some loads in my 300 BLK and SCAR 308. Next to me where some older fellows from Hotlanta, who were shooting an AR, a Steyr Aug Bull Pup, an AK, and what appeared to be an AR-10. With all the blasting I didn't really talk much to them til I was done shooting, when I noticed the scope on the AR-10 was a BIG Acog of some sort.

I asked the owner about it as I have been trying to settle on an optic on my SCAR. He offered to let me look through it, and mentioned that he couldn't get it sighted in, and asked if I would mind seeing if I could get it lined up. I warned him that I am no crack shot by any means, but that I was happy to help. He tossed me a full mag of 20 rounds and lined up on his spotting scope to walk me in.

When I picked up the rifle I noticed it was a R.E.P.R! WOW! What a nice rifle! The scope was an ACOG 6x48 with horseshoe 7.62 reticle, which I really liked. Since I had just been shooting the SCAR moments before it was interesting to handle the REPR since I had never had the chance before. It is definitely a lot heavier than my gun, and yet, much slimmer. It also kicks much harder, though isn't as loud. It was a 16" model (like my SCAR) and did have a muzzle break, so I attribute part of the percieved loudness and recoil difference to my muzzle break's effectiveness. I had only ONE round left to share in common between the two (168 gr AMAX over 48 grains of Varget). I had been testing that load in mine and only had the one left, but shot it through his gun to compare recoil and noise. I wish I could have had more of that load to shoot through his just to compare accuracy.

I am not sure what ammo we were shooting after that as the mag was already loaded up, but the bullets had a dark grey-ish finish on them, but weren't ballistic tips.

Anyway, he mentioned he needed to get it bore sighted since it was so far off, but we had some targets up at 15 years, so I figured maybe we could get them on the paper there. Tried dead center on a JSR standard target (which is about 18" by 12" ...I guess?), no hole in paper. I thought if we are that bad off at 15 yards, we may have no luck. So I started clockwise shooting each corner of the paper to see if a hit would appear. Of course, wasted four more shots as it was the last possibility, got it on paper at the low left corner...off about 12 inches high and 5 inches right at 15 yards...1/4 MOA clicks meant a LOT of turns. I made a mental error at 15 that cost me a lot of rounds at 50 (was adjusting scope to shoot a couple inches high at 15, but that meant the bullets were going over the back board at 50) I realized my mistake and got it on paper at 50, then went for 100 with only 3 rounds left. I shot 2 rounds grouped an inch appart about 8 inches high and 4 left of center, then did the math and adjusted scope and fired the last round. Damned if it didn't hit dead center on the target.

I wish I would have some more rounds to confirm, but at least it appeared to be sighted in, and I felt I was holding very steady during the last shot. Of course, due to parallax, it may not be dead on for him, but he was thrilled, and I was excited to shoot with a scope that the clicks did EXACTLY what they were supposed to do, and the rifle was accurate enough to make it work. I've had some scopes that would hold zero very well, but the click value wasn't consistant. My current scope on my SCAR falls into that category (Konus 1-4x24). Of course I think that scope he had runs around $2k, but it certainly worked!

Very nice people with a very nice combo.

EDIT: Numerous typos

Edited July 23, 2012 by atlas3025

[Guest drv2fst]

I used to have both a LWRC 5.56 and SCAR 5.56. I did the side-by-side comparison many times. While I prefer the ergonomics of the LWRC, the SCAR always won the comparison for me. Certainly, both brands are fantastic. Choosing one over the other comes down to preferences and nit-picks. The SCAR won me over with:

• Lower Recoil
  
• Easier to take apart and put back together again
  
• Folding Stock
  
• Ligher weight
  
• Same controls on both 5.56 and 7.62 vs LWRC where 5.56 and 7.62 operate differently.
  

The way I see it the LWRC is the best of the AR and AK rifles all in one. While the SCAR is the best of AR, AK, and FAL all in one. The advantages to the LWRC are:

• Better ergonomics
  
• Better aftermarket support (since they share much more with standard AR)
  
• More caliber and barrel length options
  

I have the SCAR 16 and 17. I have ACOG's on both and really love the SCAR/ACOG combo. I only have 4x on my ACOG's though. I wish I had more magnification as these rifles are certainly accurate out to further than I can see with 4x.

[RobertNashville]

I used to have both a LWRC 5.56 and SCAR 5.56. I did the side-by-side comparison many times. While I prefer the ergonomics of the LWRC, the SCAR always won the comparison for me. Certainly, both brands are fantastic. Choosing one over the other comes down to preferences and nit-picks. The SCAR won me over with:

• Lower Recoil
  
• Easier to take apart and put back together again
  
• Folding Stock
  
• Ligher weight
  
• Same controls on both 5.56 and 7.62 vs LWRC where 5.56 and 7.62 operate differently.
  

The way I see it the LWRC is the best of the AR and AK rifles all in one. While the SCAR is the best of AR, AK, and FAL all in one. The advantages to the LWRC are:

• Better ergonomics
  
• Better aftermarket support (since they share much more with standard AR)
  
• More caliber and barrel length options
  

I have the SCAR 16 and 17. I have ACOG's on both and really love the SCAR/ACOG combo. I only have 4x on my ACOG's though. I wish I had more magnification as these rifles are certainly accurate out to further than I can see with 4x.

Yet you sold me your SCAR (which I am very grateful to have)...I really enjoy shooting it and so has every person I've ever let use it including many returning combat vets at the Montgomery Countyr Shooting Complex near Fort Campbell.

Both of my SCARs are 5.56; I have an ACOG on one and a Trijicon reflex sight on the other.

[atlas3025]

I have the SCAR 16 and 17. I have ACOG's on both and really love the SCAR/ACOG combo. I only have 4x on my ACOG's though. I wish I had more magnification as these rifles are certainly accurate out to further than I can see with 4x.

This what I am up against. 4x just isn't enough for a 308. I am not sure if 6x is either. I really liked his ACOG 6x, but I still couldn't see the bullet holes at 100 with it very clearly. I really think 10x is probably the way to go, but then you get into the large diameter objective, and I think I like the 30mm tube with the 24mm obj lense. I don't think anyone makes that combo in anything stronger than 6x though.

[Guest drv2fst]

Yet you sold me your SCAR ...

Yes, and I missed it so much I got another one soon thereafter. I'd love it if I could have a few more.

I wish they would come out with their 20" barrel DMR/Sniper versions. They are on the website but not available to civilians yet. I'm hoping they are available to us soon.

[RobertNashville]

I've got an FN FAR for sniping duty

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Yes, and I missed it so much I got another one soon thereafter. I'd love it if I could have a few more.

I wish they would come out with their 20" barrel DMR/Sniper versions. They are on the website but not available to civilians yet. I'm hoping they are available to us soon.

That is one particularly ugly rifle, but I'd like to have one!

[RobertNashville]

That is one particularly ugly rifle, but I'd like to have one!

Well, he messed it up...all that fancy stuff doesn't really make it work any better and makes the rifle ugly.