Man shoots self in face at Coal Creek Armory

[TripleDigitRide]

Reason #23049234 I don't go to Coal Creek. People shoot themselves it's so bad.

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[Hotrod]

Sad situation Bad for the guy.. Was it an accident or intentional?

[vontar]

Sad situation Bad for the guy.. Was it an accident or intentional?

OK that is how I should have ask in my last post. I guess that is the real question

[bubbiesdad]

Was it lane 2 again?

[wcsc12]

This is really interesting. I love the rumor mill surrounding this as well.

Here's my rumor mill from a reliable source.

Apparently the guy went in and rented a firearm. He got the box of ammo and went inside the range and then blam to the face. However, he's still alive and because of that, it's being investigated as a crime. In the person who reported this to me beliefs, if it was suicide that went wrong.

Next, we should hear about how he aimed at the target and the bullet went down range and came back and hit him in the face.

Edited July 5, 2012 by wcsc12

[Guest nysos]

Here's my rumor mill from a reliable source.

John?

[Guest bkelm18]

New story. Was a suicide attempt. Pretty sure I went to high school with this guy.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jul/05/sheriff-shooting-at-coal-creek-armory-was/

[TMF]

New story. Was a suicide attempt. Pretty sure I went to high school with this guy.

http://www.knoxnews....eek-armory-was/

Aahhhhh..... bet you feel bad about that joke earlier!

[Guest bkelm18]

Aahhhhh..... bet you feel bad about that joke earlier!

Not really. I didn't know him, just recognized the name.

[QuietDan]

New story. Was a suicide attempt. Pretty sure I went to high school with this guy.

http://www.knoxnews....eek-armory-was/

He felt he had problems bad enough to commit suicide. After his failed attempt, his problems are most assuredly more serious.

It is a truism to say that suicide is not the answer; it's a permanent solution for temporary problems.

[maroonandwhite]

Well the article says he fired a few shots at the target before turning it on himself. Doesn't sound like he was totally committed. I have never been in that position though so who knows what he was thinking. Hard for me to imagine getting that down....

[Major Kong]

Reason #23049234 I don't go to Coal Creek. People shoot themselves it's so bad.

Glad you're the one who said it.

[TNcitizen22]

I am shocked he is still alive. According to the article it was a .44 (did not specify magnum or special).

[Guest twpayne75]

I am shocked he is still alive. According to the article it was a .44 (did not specify magnum or special).

Guess somebody was using the .50AE.

[Garufa]

I am shocked he is still alive. According to the article it was a .44 (did not specify magnum or special).

Either way I suppose he doesn't have much of a face left.

Really tragic.

Edited July 5, 2012 by Garufa

[Guest bkelm18]

I am shocked he is still alive. According to the article it was a .44 (did not specify magnum or special).

I'm guessing he was doing the barrel under the chin method and angled it too far out, missing the cranium. Only way I can think you'd survive a .44 to the head.

[maroonandwhite]

Just to spark a conversation.... I am assuming they saw the video where the guy was clearly attempting suicide. My thoughts would be for the hospital to stop care and let him have his way. Now I am also assuming he has family that would say otherwise and want to keep him alive. I would also want them treated if it was my family. Just for conversation's sake say this guy doesn't have any family. That wouldn't be a bad policy in my mind.

[Guest bkelm18]

Just to spark a conversation.... I am assuming they saw the video where the guy was clearly attempting suicide. My thoughts would be for the hospital to stop care and let him have his way. Now I am also assuming he has family that would say otherwise and want to keep him alive. I would also want them treated if it was my family. Just for conversation's sake say this guy doesn't have any family. That wouldn't be a bad policy in my mind.

I'd imagine that would open themselves up to all kinds of litigation. Plus I can't imagine there are too many healthcare professionals that are ok with simply letting someone die if it were preventable.

[maroonandwhite]

I am thinking more along the lines of a do not resuscitate thing. I guess it would be more of a law enforcement decision rather the the doctors. I mean it would have to be glaringly obvious that the guy did not want to live anymore. I see what you mean though.

[DaveTN]

Plus I can't imagine there are too many healthcare professionals that are ok with simply letting someone die if it were preventable.

This.

I stood guard in the ER on a guy that had just shot two of my fellow Officers and had then by shot. The nurses were in tears and told me that they would like to let him die, but they couldn’t. I told them we understand. They saved him. It was as emotional and draining on the ER staff as it was for us.

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

By law they cant stop treatment..the docs take an oath to try to save a life

[Sam1]

Well the article says he fired a few shots at the target before turning it on himself. Doesn't sound like he was totally committed. I have never been in that position though so who knows what he was thinking. Hard for me to imagine getting that down....

Suicide is for quitters, that's why most of us will never be faced with the problem.

[East_TN_Patriot]

By law they cant stop treatment..the docs take an oath to try to save a life

This. Medical professionals have a legal and ethical obligation to use all available means to save the patient unless the patient has a DNR order or refuses care. To refuse care, the patient must be in the right mental state to rationally make such a decision, which is not legally the case in attempted suicides. At that point, the law presumes that you are mentally incapacitated and unable to make decisions for yourself. If you are in a coma or unconscious, consent is assumed unless someone can present a DNR and/or living will. Family can agree to give you treatment, but can't necessary refuse treatment on your behalf unless they possess a DNR/living will or have been given guardianship by a court, which is common when a patient is in a vegetative state or has a terminal illness where loss of mental ability is likely such as cancer or Alzheimer's. If a medical profession fails to give all possible care, they can face criminal and civil penalties and will likely lose their license to practice medicine.

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

My father commited suicide..it really left us wondering why.Its sad that it can get this bad that people think they need to do this

[maroonandwhite]

This.

I stood guard in the ER on a guy that had just shot two of my fellow Officers and had then by shot. The nurses were in tears and told me that they would like to let him die, but they couldn’t. I told them we understand. They saved him. It was as emotional and draining on the ER staff as it was for us.

That would definitely be a tough one to swallow for me.