Soviet propaganda, Frankenstein or the roots of the zombie apocalypse?

[JAB]

Some say this was propaganda and simply a hoax intended to make it seem that Soviet science was more advanced than it was. Others say it was real (and there are apparently serious medical papers written by some who considered it to be real.) The film clip is not for the squemish and parts of it are somewhat disturbing. It shows a severed dog head being 'reanimated' and kept alive by using an artificial circulatory machine. It also shows a dog being bled to death, complete with heart and respiration monitors going flatline, only to be revived by a similar machine (after what appears to be at least one full minute of respiratory and circulatory death) and then surviving after being taken off the machine.

http://archive.org/d...ls/Experime1940

I am not sure this is all that far fetched, especially the second part. I remember seeing a report on one of the news shows about a procedure intended to save the lives of people with dangerous brain aneurysms. The idea was that any attempt to fix the aneurysm would cause it to rupture and the patient would die on the table. One doc came up with a procedure wherein the patient is prepped as normal (skull cut open, etc.) then the medical team uses ice packs to lower the patient's body temp until the patient's heart stops. At that point, pretty much all of the patient's blood is pumped out and collected. This removes the pressure from the aneurysm. The doc then has a very small window of time where the aneurysm can be fixed (in the story I saw, the surgeon bypassed the aneurysm with a section of a blood vessel from elsewhere in the patient's body.) Once that is accomplished, the patient's blood is pumped back into their body and warming pads are used to bring the body back up to temp. They said that sometimes the patient needs help from a defibrillator or something similar to get their heart started again but that often (as happened in the specific case that was being covered in the story) the heart starts back on its own once the body temperature has come back up closer to normal.

I also came across a story similar to the above about a scientist who transplanted a monkey's severed head onto a different monkey's body (and the head lived for a few days.) Of course, the host body was only providing circulatory support, not full nerve function but it seems the nerves/muscles above the neck still worked. That would fully jibe with the idea of the severed dog head still being able to move/respond in the film, above.

http://news.bbc.co.u...lth/1263758.stm

Edited July 3, 2012 by JAB

[gjohnsoniv]

I've seen that before. Weird stuff but pretty cool at the same time.

[Makiaveli]

I think the show Dark Matters did a piece on the monkey head bit, not for sure as I can't remember if it was Russians etc.

[JAB]

I think the show Dark Matters did a piece on the monkey head bit, not for sure as I can't remember if it was Russians etc.

I don't think the monkey head experiment was Russian. The scientist who did that was named Robert White and was in Cleveland, Ohio.

[Makiaveli]

I don't think the monkey head experiment was Russian. The scientist who did that was named Robert White and was in Cleveland, Ohio.

Ahh....now that I've thought about it, I think the Russian bit was them trying to breed apes with men to create strong, tough, stupid soldiers.

[gjohnsoniv]

Yeah the program that never got any volunteers, well one lady, but that's not enough to make an army.

Edited July 6, 2012 by gjohnsoniv

[Makiaveli]

Yeah the program that never got any volunteers, well one lady, but that's not enough to make an army.

Actually I think the US had some success in a few places here in TN

[gjohnsoniv]

Actually I think the US had some success in a few places here in TN

LOL, I know what you mean.

[atlas3025]

If you like Russian Zombie Whathaveyou's, then this may be up your alley. I am sure it has been posted here before, but it worth it again.

[gjohnsoniv]

Was that zombie video made just for the music video or is that an actual Russian film?

[atlas3025]

Was that zombie video made just for the music video or is that an actual Russian film?

I would rather not answer that.

[gjohnsoniv]

I would rather not answer that.

Stupid question I'm sure.

[atlas3025]

Stupid question I'm sure.

Lol...no...but the mystery is priceless!

[gjohnsoniv]

Lol...no...but the mystery is priceless!

Now that's just mean lol. The reason I ask is because I studied Russian for a while and would like to see the thing in Russian without the music over top of it. Assuming it wasn't made just for the video, which I take it it was.