Just so everyone knows- Rand Paul endorses Romney

[Guest 6.8 AR]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/06/rand-paul-endorses-romney-125624.html

Maybe people around here can get behind this, now. I hope so.

[Guest bkelm18]

No YouTube videos?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Now, why didn't I expect that?

[mav]

I was going to post this thread, but since it has already been created, I am more than happy to comment on it.

Take that all you Paul(s) haters.

Seriously, I knew Rand would support Romney. He is grounded in reality and understands that just because you lose a battle doesn't mean you pack up your s**t and go home. You stay in the war and keep fighting.

I am pretty disgusted by a lot of the comments saying Rand is a sellout and such. What a pant load. Rand is still one of, if not the best senator we have. I have been a Paul supporter (and still am) throughout this entire election cycle, but I have to admit that there are some Paul supporters that are just bat s**t crazy.

[kieefer]

Oh my gawd, say it ain't so.

I hope no one goes off the deep end over this.

[RobertNashville]

Oh my gawd, say it ain't so.

I hope no one goes off the deep end over this.

Well...many of the RP faithful don't take rejection (one might say reality) well so suspect the most likely reaction will be absolute silence

If not that then we'll likely see a bunch of YouTube videos of obscure commentators (or crazy people) "explaining" how RP is still going to get the nomination at the convention and will ultimately win the Presidency.

[kieefer]

If only Ron would give it up so those folks might be able to move on with their lives.

My guess is that RP will remain silent and lead his followers off the cliff.

BTW, I don't think anyone on the right hates Ron Paul. Most of the hatred I've seen only comes from the left.

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Edited June 8, 2012 by kieefer

[mav]

BTW, I don't think anyone on the right hates Ron Paul. Most of the hatred I've seen only comes from the left.

There has been a lot of hatred from the right towards Paul, albeit misdirected hatred. A lot on the right really hate the RP die-hard supporters, not necessarily Paul himself. However, they have taken their hatred of Ronulans and transferred it to the candidate (Levin would be an example).

[RobertNashville]

There has been a lot of hatred from the right towards Paul, albeit misdirected hatred. A lot on the right really hate the RP die-hard supporters, not necessarily Paul himself. However, they have taken their hatred of Ronulans and transferred it to the candidate (Levin would be an example).

While I have some problems with some of RP's positions, my major hangup has always been with his supporters who seem to take their adoration of RP to an almost religious level - who seem willing to let the country go straight to hell if they don't get their way.

The honorable thing for RP to have done and/or to do now would be to state flat out that he will not run as a third-party or a write-in candidate and urge his supporters to vote for whoever the R nominee is. He should have done that from the start of the campaign, that he still hasn't gives me cause to think that his motives for wanting the Presidency is more about RP's ego than an act of service/sacrifice to the country.

[mikegideon]

While I have some problems with some of RP's positions, my major hangup has always been with his supporters who seem to take their adoration of RP to an almost religious level - who seem willing to let the country go straight to hell if they don't get their way.

The honorable thing for RP to have done and/or to do now would be to state flat out that he will not run as a third-party or a write-in candidate and urge his supporters to vote for whoever the R nominee is. He should have done that from the start of the campaign, that he still hasn't gives me cause to think that his motives for wanting the Presidency is more about RP's ego than an act of service/sacrifice to the country.

I thought it came from the horse's mouth that he would NOT run on a third party ticket. I also thought, again from the horse's mouth, that he's keeping this thing alive long enough to have his major issues heard at the convention. I'm all for that. Paulbots aside, I'm willing to wait and see how he plays it. I'm pretty convinced he's a patriot.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I am, too. I don't think the right hates Paul. They just don't think he fits in with whatever the platform

will be. I've said it before. He ain't polished enough to get the nomination. His son will make a good

candidate in the future.

Anyway, it shouldn't be an issue now. I thought it was newsworthy.

[mav]

I thought it came from the horse's mouth that he would NOT run on a third party ticket. I also thought, again from the horse's mouth, that he's keeping this thing alive long enough to have his major issues heard at the convention. I'm all for that. Paulbots aside, I'm willing to wait and see how he plays it. I'm pretty convinced he's a patriot.

Mike, you are correct. He did state that several times during his campaign. And yes, he is a patriot.

To be honest with you, I am still glad he is still around even though he has no chance of winning. More and more people need to hear his message, especially the fiscal stuff. I would say the foreign policy as well, but I am certain that most here would disagree with me on that point.

[mikegideon]

Mike, you are correct. He did state that several times during his campaign. And yes, he is a patriot.

To be honest with you, I am still glad he is still around even though he has no chance of winning. More and more people need to hear his message, especially the fiscal stuff. I would say the foreign policy as well, but I am certain that most here would disagree with me on that point.

I have no problem with him trying to push his agenda closer to the top, since the party tends to focus more on the smokescreen than the real issues.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Some of his agenda should be at the top, like dealing with the Feds and their continual monetizing

of debt. I hope he has a chance to be in the administration, like Sec. of Treasury.

[mikegideon]

I hope he holds their feet to the fire anyway he can.

[RobertNashville]

I thought it came from the horse's mouth that he would NOT run on a third party ticket.

It could be I'm behind the times but every time I've herd him asked the question he's never said he absolutely would not run third-party and/or a with a write-in campaign. I've read claims that he's said he wouldn't but I've never actually heard him say it himself when asked and the stories that claim he has said it has never actually referenced when/when he has said so...maybe he has said that and I just missed it.

I also thought, again from the horse's mouth, that he's keeping this thing alive long enough to have his major issues heard at the convention.

That's my understanding as well.

I'm all for that. Paulbots aside, I'm willing to wait and see how he plays it. I'm pretty convinced he's a patriot.

I wasn't suggesting that he isn't a patriot but I"m not sure patriotism is at the root of his candidacy. I think his motives will be more clear based on what happens after the convention (and he, presumably, isn't the Republican nominee). At that point, if he doesn't throw his full support behind Romney and/or he goes third-party I'd say we'll have some evidence that his motives have more to do with promoting Ron Paul than it does doing what's best for the country.

Just my armchair opinion of course.

[mikegideon]

Let me clarify. I'm pretty sure < I > heard Ron say he wouldn't run third party. I just won't swear to my memory these days

[Mike.357]

MikeG you are as senile as me.

Paul has worthy ideas but comes acros as bat#### crazy to normal people

He needs to endorse Mitt for the simple sake of ousting Obozo

[mikegideon]

MikeG you are as senile as me.

Paul has worthy ideas but comes acros as bat#### crazy to normal people

He needs to endorse Mitt for the simple sake of ousting Obozo

I figure he will at some point.

[MattCary]

MikeG you are as senile as me.

Paul has worthy ideas but comes acros as bat#### crazy to normal people

He needs to endorse Mitt for the simple sake of ousting Obozo

This.

I've said all along that his demeanor strikes me as 2 seconds from a complete spin out.

[kieefer]

Paul seldom seems clear to me on the details when confronted with a difficult question. As in this from Newsmax 12/2011;

Texas Rep. Ron Paul said Thursday he has “no intention†of running for president as a third-party candidate if he does not get the Republican presidential nomination. When pressed, however, he shied away from saying his decision was “absolute,†although he clarified he “cannot conceive of it.â€

“I'll give the same answer I’ve given about 39 times now — that I have no intention of doing that,†Paul told Fox News’ Sean Hannity immediately after Thursday night's debate, the last before the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses. “I plan to do my very best and see what happens in the next two months.â€

Hannity noted that when Paul says he has “no intention" he was, in fact, leaving the door open to the possibility of a third-party run, and asked the presidential hopeful if that was indeed the case.

“I don’t like absolutes — I don’t like to say: ‘I absolutely will never do such and such’ — so I am just avoiding the absolute,†Paul said.

Hannity noted that if Paul ran as a third-party candidate, he would “probably siphon off†some of the anti-Obama vote.

“But wouldn’t it be fair to ask the moderate Republicans that are competing — to ask the same question?†Paul said.

Hannity again pressed Paul on the fact that “no intention†means the door remains open and asked if it was “a little.â€

“I cannot conceive of it,†Paul said. “I have absolutely no thoughts or plans of doing it.â€

Read more on Newsmax.com: Ron Paul: I 'Cannot Conceive' of Third-Party Run

It really showed in the debates, some good ideas but getting the details out of him, appears to me to stress him out.

Who knows what he's going to do but having his own son endorse Romney is a stab in the back UNLESS Ron gave his permission.

I suspect Rand knows exactly what his Dad is doing and realizes that he's not going to win, to improve his status with the party he came out with this news.