Groups with a .45

[Guest sharpshooter01]

What do you all consider to be a good group at 20 - 25 yards with a 4 1/2" barrel .45?

[Schadenfreude]

Are we talking bench or offhand?

[Guest sharpshooter01]

Offhand

[jaysouth]

If you can hold your groups to a minute of paper plate, you have mastered your gun for defensive purposes.

[Im Neero]

I can hit a 2x8 inch chunk of wood at that distance more times than not, and consider myself a decent but not great shot.

[Guest Halfpint]

I'm about in Neero's shoes . . . my Kimber will do 1.5" groups at 25 yards in a Ransom Rest, but I'm having a great day if I manage to get 2.5" out of it, taking my time. If I keep them within 5" I'm not going to complain--it's still center of mass.

[John Wall]

I would spend more trigger time under 10 yards. In a gunfight, fine motor skills and precision shots are out the window. You will be point shooting. Your eyes will be locked on the threat. This is the way you are made to operate in an amergency.

I train point shooting the simple way. If the target is wider than the slide of your firearm, you point shoot. If the slide is wider than the target, you need to aim.

If sufficiently frightened/scared/angry, you will not be looking at the front sight. This is human nature.

Spend time focusing on the target, and perfect your technique of drawing and performing a double tap. Then SCAN FOR ADDITIONAL THREATS before recovering to the holster.

If you must draw, draw quickly, and be slow to reholster. Thugs and gang bangers usually work in twos and threes. Shake off the Tunnel Vision and look for additional threats.

How you practice is how you will fight!!!

[Guest jackdog]

+1 John

[molonlabetn]

In the A-zone.

[Marswolf]

I doubt he is talking about defensive shooting, but I certainly agree with John, if he is.

My Wilson Combat in a Ransom Rest is guaranteed to something like 1/2 inch at 25 yards. That's ridiculous and I think affects reliability. But it's fun. Offhand, if I can hit a paper plate at that distance, I'm very happy.

While I do silly stuff like shoot at targets (mostly pop cans) with 45s at 100 yards, the .45 is really designed for close range combat. What I call Commies coming over the berm.

[Moped]

While I do silly stuff like shoot at targets (mostly pop cans) with 45s at 100 yards, the .45 is really designed for close range combat. What I call Commies coming over the berm.

Nothing silly about that! I love doing it!

[Guest Disney]

While I very rarely shoot any of my .45's out at 25 yards, when I do, the Kimber is by far the most accurate. Off hand (i've never had mine on a bench rest) I can so 5-6" groups with aiming. Point and shoot i'll hit the target more times than not, but no telling where. If I really take my time between rounds, I'd say I can keep it under 4"

The M&P45 is nowhere near as accurate at this range for me. I'd be better off throwing the thing at the target.

[Guest Grout]

I suggest some of you attend a Bullseye match at your local club to see just how accurate a 1911 is at 25 and 50 yards.