The White House leaking to the enemy?

[Guest 6.8 AR]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/231149-mccain-security-leaks-coming-from-highest-levels-of-white-house

That's treasonous, isn't it? Not that I like McCain being the messenger. I don't like him,

but Diane Feinstein said vaguely similar things yesterday.

One commenter said that Obama wouldn't pass a security clearance. Other than the fact

that he is the President, I'll bet he wouldn't, either.

We have to get this guy out!

[Guest ThePunisher]

Hope springs eternal. Yesterday's Wisconsin recall win, and some of the the Tea Party wins fills me with hope that maybe, just maybe the people might be waking up, and are seeing the destruction this commie is doing to our country. Even Slick Willie is going behind his back and voicing his concerns.

[mcurrier]

The White House leaking to the enemy?

No, it isn't. Whomever it is that carries the top secret files into the Oval Office for O-Bo to look at is the one leaking the information to the enemy.

[TMF]

Whomever leaked it should be exposed and punished severely. With that said, there's no proof this came from the White House. There are hundreds of people involved in projects like this, and many have political/financial motivations.

[Guest bkelm18]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/06/politics/white-house-leaks/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

[TMF]

The title of that article is misleading. The FBI is investigating in all directions as far as we know. The only mention of White House involvement comes from a member of the Senate Armed Services committee. McCain suggests the White House because the manner in which the President is portrayed in the article, but that could be the style of writing of a left leaning journalist.

Both Senate and House Intelligence Committees are seeking ways to prevent/punish in the future.

It's not that I wouldn't put it past Obama to leak intel for political benefit, but there isn't any evidence or reason to suspect him over the other hundreds, if not thousands, of people with access to the same sensitive information. Only accusations from politicians that stand something to gain by accusing Obama.

Of course, it would be very interesting if the FBI were to discover something that leads to Obama. It would certainly jeopardize a second term.

[Volzfan]

We have to get this guy out!

Been sayin that for 3 1/2 years now!

[Guest 6.8 AR]

The title of that article is misleading. The FBI is investigating in all directions as far as we know. The only mention of White House involvement comes from a member of the Senate Armed Services committee. McCain suggests the White House because the manner in which the President is portrayed in the article, but that could be the style of writing of a left leaning journalist.

Both Senate and House Intelligence Committees are seeking ways to prevent/punish in the future.

It's not that I wouldn't put it past Obama to leak intel for political benefit, but there isn't any evidence or reason to suspect him over the other hundreds, if not thousands, of people with access to the same sensitive information. Only accusations from politicians that stand something to gain by accusing Obama.

Of course, it would be very interesting if the FBI were to discover something that leads to Obama. It would certainly jeopardize a second term.

Just step back a moment and think about all the apologizing he has made to our enemies and in the middle

east and think about who has the means, motive and opportunity to do it and cover it up. Holder cancelled

prosecution of the Panthers about the voting precinct incident when evidence would make a responsible AG

to deal with it. Look at Van Jones, a devout communist whose main desire is to start a revolution in America

to make communism the only political machine. Look at the aid given to Palestine immediately after the election.

Do I really need to say more? All that points right to the White House.

It is an example of how much more serious he is, when compared to the Clinton administration's wholesale

gift to China in guarded military missile technology. And that one Bill and Al concocted was bad enough.

There's already the means to deal with it. It's called having committed an act of treason. One of those

"high crimes and misdemeanors".

[TMF]

Just step back a moment and think about all the apologizing he has made to our enemies and in the middle

east and think about who has the means, motive and opportunity to do it and cover it up. Holder cancelled

prosecution of the Panthers about the voting precinct incident when evidence would make a responsible AG

to deal with it. Look at Van Jones, a devout communist whose main desire is to start a revolution in America

to make communism the only political machine. Look at the aid given to Palestine immediately after the election.

Do I really need to say more? All that points right to the White House.

It is an example of how much more serious he is, when compared to the Clinton administration's wholesale

gift to China in guarded military missile technology. And that one Bill and Al concocted was bad enough.

There's already the means to deal with it. It's called having committed an act of treason. One of those

"high crimes and misdemeanors".

Oh I don't doubt that his administration would do it, I just know that there are plenty of other folks with a narrow view of things that could just as easily leaked it.

Trust me, I'm a firm believer that Obama and politicians like him have no understanding of the second and third order effects of leaking top secret information. Look at the UBL raid. How friggin' ridiculous was that?? We will never be able to do something like that again anywhere in the world because no one will trust us enough to operate as a source in such high profile situation. At a time where we're using our intel community to full capacity to pressure Iran I couldn't believe it.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That's another good example.

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[Oh Shoot]

Oh I don't doubt that his administration would do it, I just know that there are plenty of other folks with a narrow view of things that could just as easily leaked it.

Actually, there aren't. Some of the inside details could only have come from the relatively few people in the Situation Room meetings. The actual bipartisan agreement on this issue is pretty amazing, really shows how seriously it's being taken on the Hill.

- OS

[gjohnsoniv]

Actually, there aren't. Some of the inside details could only have come from the relatively few people in the Situation Room meetings. The actual bipartisan agreement on this issue is pretty amazing, really shows how seriously it's being taken on the Hill.

- OS

I think there is a point to which you can go, but when the hill realizes that their lives and re-election is based off this they get cracking.

[TN Outlaw]

I wanted him out from the get go

[mcurrier]

Actually, there aren't. Some of the inside details could only have come from the relatively few people in the Situation Room meetings.

Of which I've heard that David Axlerod and perhaps others whom have no business being in there may have been present in some cases.

[TMF]

Actually, there aren't. Some of the inside details could only have come from the relatively few people in the Situation Room meetings. The actual bipartisan agreement on this issue is pretty amazing, really shows how seriously it's being taken on the Hill.

- OS

You'd be amazed how many people are involved in projects like this in addition to folks that are read on to it. It's a lot. What goes on at those high levels trickles down as well, even the goings on of the meetings and especially comments made by folks like the President and the SecDef. This could have been a lot of people. What I've seen from bipartisan cooperation is outrage and intent to fix the problem, not pointing fingers at the White House.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well, however the information flows, it may not matter. what does matter is the undermining of US security

to cause whatever havoc can be had. It will always point to the White House with this administration.

Beside that, who is over the FBI? Holder. Think any investigation will gain traction with him at the helm, being

part of the inner circle? There is nothing in this bunch that isn't orchestrated. It went on with the Clinton

administration as practice for this one. Everyone appears to have forgotten everything with that one.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Things are said, and heard down the chain, and some is particularly said to get information out to

others. Some information is intentionally leaked to the lower parts of the chain to maintain plausible

deniability. Where it started is almost always a place at the top and the message is usually concise

enough to get a point across to the intended recipient.

If I remember correctly, Al Gore used a liaison to go between Tibetan monks(?) and the Chinese

embassy for the exchange of missile technology and other computer related technology. It made the

evening news and raised eyebrows, but didn't get him in trouble. He only had to make use of small

lies to get out of it. I don't remember the whole story, but it places Al Gore in the traitor class, as far

as I'm concerned.

Bill and Hillary continued the class warfare between Jews and Palestinians to build the Clinton Global

Initiave. They got huge contributions from Arab states. Something reminiscent of Jimmy Carter's actions.

I'm sure there were go betweens for all of that, also.

[Guest bkelm18]

Everyone! It's going to be ok! Mr. Holder has hand picked two US Attorneys to head up the investigation.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/08/politics/white-house-leaks/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[TripleDigitRide]

Too bad Holder hasn't moved quite so swiftly in regards to the Fast and Furious investigation.

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[gjohnsoniv]

Everyone! It's going to be ok! Mr. Holder has hand picked two US Attorneys to head up the investigation.

http://www.cnn.com/2....html?hpt=hp_t1

Oh that's comforting...

[Guest 6.8 AR]

He wouldn't have done that except

for the election. Trying to make it a

non-issue. Won't work, either.

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[mcurrier]

[mcurrier]

[TMF]

Holder isn't going to allow an independent counsel to investigate this. Funny that there was an independent counsel to investigate the Valerie Plame leak, which is small potatoes compared to this. I'm jumping on the "Holder is a crook" bandwagon. I know I'm late to the game on that.

[Oh Shoot]

... I'm jumping on the "Holder is a crook" bandwagon. I know I'm late to the game on that.

Very, IMHO.

First clue should have been when he didn't prosecute Black Panthers for obvious, recorded voter intimidation; second clue is that he has now sued 1/3 of the states in the union over one thing or another on which he believes the Naked King should not be challenged. With other politically partisan mischief sprinkled in, noticeably lately for running around and stirring up black groups with claims of how the GOP is attempting to keep them from voting and whatnot.

- OS

Edited June 13, 2012 by OhShoot