Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber

[mcurrier]

Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/06/police-stop-handcuff-every-adult-at-intersection-in-search-for-bank-robber/

Along the similar lines of Constitutional and Bill of Rights violations -

Chicago Police Caught Saying First Amendment Rights Can Be Terminated

http://visiontoamerica.org/10133/chicago-police-caught-saying-first-amendment-rights-can-be-terminated/

http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/01/11998060-first-amendment-rights-can-be-terminated-when-cops-cameras-dont-mix?lite

These incidents among others are indications that the "authorities" are not too concerned with violating citizens 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendment rights.

Add to that the sudden accelerated implementation of drones and it is becoming more clear that we are soon to be living in a police state.

[Chucktshoes]

Color me shocked. :|

[mikegideon]

Soon to be??? I thought we were already there.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That's bad stuff. Shouldn't be tolerated.

[hornett22]

Sadly, this does not surprise me.

[mcurrier]

More stupid violations of people's rights:

School says: Breathalyzer Or No Graduation

http://minnesota.cbs...-no-graduation/

Popular senior denied diploma because of too much cheering by crowd

http://www.wcpo.com/...o-much-cheering

Mom arrested for cheering daughter at graduation

http://www.clickorla...3z/-/index.html

[QuietDan]

More stupid violations of people's rights:

Popular senior denied diploma because of too much cheering by crowd

http://www.wcpo.com/...o-much-cheering

Here is the link to the Mt Healthy public schools, complete with telephone numbers for the Superintendent and the School Board:

http://www.mthcs.org/

Stupid little pocket Nazis, looking for one last chance to lord it over their slaves.

They are forgetting that these are the taxpayers for their little kingdom. I hope all the residents of the town remember this the next time there is a bond issue for a new school, or negotiations over salaries and benefits.

Edited June 5, 2012 by QuietDan

[RobertNashville]

1. This doesn't surprise me.

2. Just one more reasons why I don't visit the communist state of Illinois and have driven many, many miles out of my way to avoid passing through any part of it.

[Oh Shoot]

Somehow this one doesn't bother me much ... it was a most unique situation, cops had good reason to think intel was correct, and surprise, it was -- got the bad guy. Some citizens inconvenienced, but with a nifty lifelong cocktail party story. Hardly "police state" stuff methinks.

- OS

[Mister L]

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"

-Thomas Jefferson-

[mcurrier]

Somehow this one doesn't bother me much ... it was a most unique situation, cops had good reason to think intel was correct, and surprise, it was -- got the bad guy. Some citizens inconvenienced, but with a nifty lifelong cocktail party story. Hardly "police state" stuff methinks.

- OS

Where does it end?

Stopping everyone who was in the bank at the time, I can see that. Detaining a whole group of people on the street, that's a whole other level. How far does it go? What if they wanted to detain everyone in a three block radius? 2 mile radius?

[Guest bkelm18]

More stupid violations of people's rights:

School says: Breathalyzer Or No Graduation

http://minnesota.cbs...-no-graduation/

Popular senior denied diploma because of too much cheering by crowd

http://www.wcpo.com/...o-much-cheering

Mom arrested for cheering daughter at graduation

http://www.clickorla...3z/-/index.html

You don't have a right to a College or High School diploma.

[Oh Shoot]

Where does it end?

Stopping everyone who was in the bank at the time, I can see that. Detaining a whole group of people on the street, that's a whole other level. How far does it go? What if they wanted to detain everyone in a three block radius? 2 mile radius?

Well, I believe I'd wait for at least more than say, one instance per year of it happening anywhere in the US before I'd worry about it becoming a real threat to personal liberty.

It's less comprehensive action than a simple DUI checkpoint. The handcuffing seems the only somewhat extreme part of the whole thing, not the stopping or detention.

- OS

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I agree about the one time thing, but

precedents are the building blocks of tyranny.

Let's hope it's not.

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[mikegideon]

Well, I believe I'd wait for at least more than say, one instance per year of it happening anywhere in the US before I'd worry about it becoming a real threat to personal liberty.

It's less comprehensive action than a simple DUI checkpoint. The handcuffing seems the only somewhat extreme part of the whole thing, not the stopping or detention.

- OS

It's ALL about the handcuffing. Last killing I attended, they detained all of us for 3 hours, but they didn't handcuff anybody.

[mcurrier]

You don't have a right to a College or High School diploma.

Once you have fulfilled the requirements, it does belong to you. They should neither foist arbitrary requirements upon a person at the last minute to participate in the traditional planned ceremony of receiving it, nor should they punish and withhold it from a person because others beyond his control cheered for him. And arresting a person for cheering for their child is quite over the top as well. Incremental control of people's lives.

[mcurrier]

It's ALL about the handcuffing. Last killing I attended, they detained all of us for 3 hours, but they didn't handcuff anybody.

Exactly.

[mikegideon]

Once you have fulfilled the requirements, it does belong to you. They should neither foist arbitrary requirements upon a person at the last minute to participate in the traditional planned ceremony of receiving it, nor should they punish and withhold it from a person because others beyond his control cheered for him. And arresting a person for cheering for their child is quite over the top as well. Incremental control of people's lives.

It's possible that they were unruly enough to disrupt the whole ceremony. Still, they should have just kicked them out.

[Guest bkelm18]

Once you have fulfilled the requirements, it does belong to you.

No it doesn't. You are confusing rights with freedoms. You have no right to a diploma. The school is not required to grant you one upon completion of the requirements. If you know of a law or amendment that says otherwise, I'd love to see it.

[Oh Shoot]

No it doesn't. You are confusing rights with freedoms. You have no right to a diploma. The school is not required to grant you one upon completion of the requirements. If you know of a law or amendment that says otherwise, I'd love to see it.

I believe the school would clearly be in breach of contract, and culpable for all manner of damages.

Perhaps criminal fraud also, depending.

- OS

Edited June 5, 2012 by OhShoot

[mcurrier]

It's possible that they were unruly enough to disrupt the whole ceremony. Still, they should have just kicked them out.

They perhaps, not 'he'.

[mikegideon]

They perhaps, not 'he'.

I agree. All this stupid enforcement crap in schools these days convinces me that they're all in training for the TSA

[mcurrier]

No it doesn't. You are confusing rights with freedoms. You have no right to a diploma. The school is not required to grant you one upon completion of the requirements. If you know of a law or amendment that says otherwise, I'd love to see it.

By your logic, the grocery store is not obligated to allow you to leave with the groceries that you have just paid for at the checkout counter.

You are confusing freedom with rights/obligation.

No, you don't have a 'right' to buy groceries at a grocery store (let's say a small independently owned sole-proprietor business who has the right to refuse service to anyone), but once you have entered the store, collected your items and then paid for them, you do have the 'right' to leave with them.

You do not have a 'right' to attend a school unless they willingly receive you there, and then once you have fulfilled your part of the contract by performing the required work and passing the required tests, and having paid tuition in full (if any), you do have the 'right' to receive the contracted-for diploma, they are obligated to fulfill their contract to you as you have met all of your requirements in good faith to them. They can not arbitrarily or summarily decide at the last minute to not surrender it to you, certainly not for reasons due to the actions of others of whom you have absolutely no control. If so, then next year students could be sabotaged by people who have a grudge against them by people cheering for them when they cross the stage to receive their diploma.

This thing has lawsuit written all over it. If you showed up for the graduation wearing shorts with holes in strategic areas perhaps exposing yourself, they certainly would have the right to not allow you to participate, but would still be under obligation to at least mail you the diploma which you have earned and paid for.

Any other argument to the opposite is merely semantics and are incorrect. This person earned/paid for their diploma, and it was merely refused to him because of actions of others and power-tripping school authorities, plain and simple.

[Guest bkelm18]

I believe the school would clearly be in breach of contract, and culpable for all manner of damages.

Perhaps criminal fraud also, depending.

- OS

I'd like to see it in writing, honestly. I never signed a contract or read anything to the effect that the school is required to grant me a diploma. In either case, it's still not a right, it's a business transaction.

Edited June 5, 2012 by bkelm18

[DaveTN]

I want the “rest of the storyâ€.

To move fast enough to shut down an intersection, capture 19 cars, and handcuff everyone in those 19 cars is pretty amazing. That took a lot of cops. What’s even more amazing is that the tip was good and they caught the bank robber. Were they in that area after the bank robbery?

And how can you go looking for a bank robber and have absolutely no description at all? PC is a wide road; but it ain’t that wide.