A look back to1988 Ron Paul Presidental Campaign Run

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

[Guest ThePunisher]

Let's beat this horse to death instead of defeating Obama.

[TMF]

Let's beat this horse to death instead of defeating Obama.

Can't we do both?

[Guest ThePunisher]

Can't we do both?

Not unless we unite behind Romeny.

[Garufa]

I voted my conscience in the primaries and voted for Paul.

If anyone would like to see the result of an all-out Paul campaign study some history and Google Ross Perot. Is was only 20 years ago so it's not that much of a stretch to see how a 3rd candidate will only guarantee a democratic victory.

The chances now are extremely high Obama will be re-elected. Suck it up and support the only game in town. It makes me sick but that is the stark reality.

[Guest Smitty]

[Guest bkelm18]

So... Did he win?

[mikegideon]

I voted my conscience in the primaries and voted for Paul.

If anyone would like to see the result of an all-out Paul campaign study some history and Google Ross Perot. Is was only 20 years ago so it's not that much of a stretch to see how a 3rd candidate will only guarantee a democratic victory.

The chances now are extremely high Obama will be re-elected. Suck it up and support the only game in town. It makes me sick but that is the stark reality.

Yep. He'll take your guns, but he won't probe your vagina. There are more vaginas than guns.

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

Thank you for the video! How about that you anti-Paul, Romney/Obama lovers!!!!

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Hey vet. I doubt you will find any Paul haters around

here, so how about showing how he will win the

convention? If he runs as an indy, that's a proven

bad idea. If he could win the convention, most

everyone around here would probably be thrilled

to vote for him. A YouTube video won't win him the nomination. The real world might not see your way.

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[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

Hey vet. I doubt you will find any Paul haters around

here, so how about showing how he will win the

convention? If he runs as an indy, that's a proven

bad idea. If he could win the convention, most

everyone around here would probably be thrilled

to vote for him. A YouTube video won't win him the nomination. The real world might not see your way.

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[DaveTN]

I doubt many here are “Anti-Paulâ€. If he could emerge from the RNC as the republican candidate over Romney; that would be great.

Point is; whoever emerges as the GOP candidate needs us to be united behind them. Voting for a third party candidate or not voting will help insure four more years of Obama. I’m sure the White House is praying Paul runs as an independent; but I doubt he will.

I’m ashamed that the GOP couldn’t find any candidates better suited to give the conservative Americans what they want.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Agreed Dave, but I think most of the potential good

candidates just weren't interested. It will be an extremely

uphill battle for whoever wins. The GOP is part of the

problem. It isn't conservative to begin with. That's part

of the reason for the emergence of the Tea Party.

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[Guest 6.8 AR]

You must love YouTube.

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[Metalhead]

Is there no way to ignore posts made by certain users? I cannot find the option to do so to save my life. These Paul threads every day are getting really old.

[mav]

Is there no way to ignore posts made by certain users? I cannot find the option to do so to save my life. These Paul threads every day are getting really old.

Yes. Don't click on the thread link. It is the best way I have found to ignore certain threads.

[mikegideon]

You must love YouTube.

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Ya think?

[Metalhead]

Yes. Don't click on the thread link. It is the best way I have found to ignore certain threads.

I was talking more about the existance of an "Ignore" option. I think the old forum software had such a thing? Maybe not.

[Guest bkelm18]

I was talking more about the existance of an "Ignore" option. I think the old forum software had such a thing? Maybe not.

Go to the very top of the page and click on your name, then click on "Manage Ignore Prefs".

[kieefer]

Hey vet. I doubt you will find any Paul haters around

here, so how about showing how he will win the

convention? If he runs as an indy, that's a proven

bad idea. If he could win the convention, most

everyone around here would probably be thrilled

to vote for him. A YouTube video won't win him the nomination. The real world might not see your way.

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I think all they have are videos.

Paul says when they say this, use this video.

I think all of our reasoning is just pissing them off more, we are not going to win the drones over.

Like many here I would not have much of a problem with Paul in the WH but can see it's not going to happen.

[Metalhead]

Go to the very top of the page and click on your name, then click on "Manage Ignore Prefs".

Sweet! Thanks!

[mikegideon]

Sweet! Thanks!

Don't ignore me. I'm about due for a profound statement

[Guest Lester Weevils]

Like many here I would not have much of a problem with Paul in the WH but can see it's not going to happen.

I don't have much expectations how it will all shake out. But raises an interesting hypothetical. Perhaps Romney gets 55 percent of "for" primary voters but 40 percent of primary voters have a serious problem supporting Romney. On the other hand perhaps Paul gets only ten percent of "for" primary voters but only 10 percent of primary voters have a serious problem supporting Paul. If that happened to be the case then Paul could at least "get out the base" in the final election better than could Romney. You have to attract independents and even a few D's in order to win, but it is vanishingly unlikely you can ever pull enough independents and D's to win if you get a lackluster R turnout because of low enthrusiasm?

Am not claiming that the above hypothetical numbers are accurate positive and negative counts for Paul vs Romney. Merely using the hypothetical case to reason that perhaps sometimes a candidate could be a popular shoo-in for winning a primary while still being a weaker final election candidate than some of the other guys who lost the primary, if some of the losers have lower negatives than the winner?

It may be that Paul actually has higher negatives than Romney for all I know. It was just interesting to see several in this thread admitting they would have no problem with Paul if he is the primary winner. But maybe in reality there are too many voters that "just don't like" Paul and nothing could ever get em out on election day to vote Paul.

Perhaps my own view poisons my estimates of Romney's chances. I happen to agree closer with Romney overall than Gingrich, Santorum or Bachman, though I don't agree very much with any of them. So Romney OUGHT to be my favorite second-pick after Ron Paul and I OUGHT to be happy he will likely be the nominee. He might make a bang-up conscientious and wise president. But I just don't like Romney. Am too dumb to explain why I don't like him. I don't think I'm the lone ranger not liking Romney "on general principles". It is difficult to go out of yer way to support somebody you don't like, regardless of how good an idea it might be purely as a matter of logic.

Along the same lines if I don't like a car salesman, ain't gonna buy a car from the dude even if on the surface it sounds like the best deal. Maybe it would make more sense to buy the car even if you don't like the salesman, but I suspect that in such cases yer subconscious can be telling you something your conscious mind ain't smart enough to figure out. Have about decided that it can be good to follow gut instinct sometimes and sometimes they keep you out of trouble.

[kieefer]

Perhaps my own view poisons my estimates of Romney's chances. I happen to agree closer with Romney overall than Gingrich, Santorum or Bachman, though I don't agree very much with any of them. So Romney OUGHT to be my favorite second-pick after Ron Paul and I OUGHT to be happy he will likely be the nominee. He might make a bang-up conscientious and wise president. But I just don't like Romney. Am too dumb to explain why I don't like him. I don't think I'm the lone ranger not liking Romney "on general principles". It is difficult to go out of yer way to support somebody you don't like, regardless of how good an idea it might be purely as a matter of logic.

Along the same lines if I don't like a car salesman, ain't gonna buy a car from the dude even if on the surface it sounds like the best deal. Maybe it would make more sense to buy the car even if you don't like the salesman, but I suspect that in such cases yer subconscious can be telling you something your conscious mind ain't smart enough to figure out. Have about decided that it can be good to follow gut instinct sometimes and sometimes they keep you out of trouble.

It's just politics, I don't like him much either and just a few liked the guy I wanted.

A lottery ticket analogy comes to mind compared to your car salesman, with BHO I haven't even won a free ticket on a dollar scratch-off, I can't think of anything that he did or said that made me think different of him or bettered my situation or our country. I could see he was a fraud in the beginning and I don't see anything that I'm happy with.

Romney on the other hand is more like a $20. dollar ticket. I'm betting more risk but the payout may be greater. I really think I'm making a better investment. Mitt does a least show a sense of traditional Americanism and has got a track record of success, I don't have to like him but I'm betting the country will start wining again when he gets elected.

If he doesn't get elected, I/we will lose a whole lot more than a dollar.

My vote is a lottery ticket, one in millions.

My gut feeling is that it's going to be a blowout election, republicans are going to win this time.