Ron Paul or No One!!!

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

[hornett22]

Im still not voting for the faux news candidate.

[E4 No More]

This crap's getting old.

[mikegideon]

Paulbots for Obama. I like Ron Paul a lot, but was always better at math than to flog that dead horse.

[seez52]

I shall not and will not hold my nose just so I can vote against the lesser of two poor candidates. The republicans have not yet been in the desert long enough. Unfortunately we are all suffering and may suffer more because of it.

[mikegideon]

Everybody has the right to their own choice. I don't want Obama, so I'm going to vote against him. I'll make my "statement" by voting against the commie. A vote for Paul is NOT a vote against Obama, so I can't waste it there, not matter how much I LIKE him. He can't win.

[DaveTN]

“No one†gets us four more years of Obama.

Ron Paul and all the other candidates are out and have no chance of getting the GOP nod, much less beating Obama. There are plenty of people out there that would make an excellent President; but none of them are running either.

The people that support Obama are united. The Democrats will be making sure all their people vote and will be busing them to the polls. They only have one person to vote for.

Romney wouldn’t be my first choice for President, but he would be 100 times better than Obama.

Get on board with Romney. If the republicans split over issues; Obama wins.

[mikegideon]

If the republicans split over issues; Obama wins.

Yep. It really is THAT simple. If your choices are A or B, and you pick C, then simple is going right over your head.

[Links2k]

I must admit my limited knowledge about a lot of things. The Mormon faith is one of them. That being said, with the limited knowledge that I have of the Mormon faith I can not vote for Romney anymore than some of you would vote for a Muslim.

If we are choosing the lesser of two evils Ron Paul would also be my choice. Absent that choice I will let the chips fall where they may.

Edited May 5, 2012 by LINKS2K

[mikegideon]

I've worked with several Mormons over the years. The only consistent thing I noticed was a strong work ethic... in fact, good ethics in general. I don't give a rats ass about somebody's religion as long as they don't inflict it on me. I'm pretty certain Mitt is too smart to go fanatic about religion. He would have failed long ago.

If you're gonna vote for C, you might as well just write in your "perfect" candidate. Basil (one of my faves)? It will have exactly the same impact... one less vote against Obama.

Edited May 5, 2012 by mikegideon

[kieefer]

Did we ever hear the reason why Paulbots thinks he can win at this point in the game? I believe AR asked that question.

+1, might as well be Paulbots for Obama. Makes a good bumper sticker.

[mikegideon]

Did we ever hear the reason why Paulbots thinks he can win at this point in the game? I believe AR asked that question.

+1, might as well be Paulbots for Obama. Makes a good bumper sticker.

Not a lot of thinking involved. More like feeling. Maybe the points are actually going in the right place.

[Guest cardcutter]

Guys

For Christ's sake Rue Paul has a better chance of getting elected than Ron Paul! Give it up already.If you vote for him you will be helping Obama.

This is not rocket science.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Yeh I never heard any of them solve the puzzle, yet.

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[Lumber_Jack]

I've refrained from these threads for the most part as I'm a 'Anyone But Obama' guy. But it seems many feel the country needs to suffer to change. I'm not a fan of suffering and I feel that many would change their mind once true hardships came along.

[Oh Shoot]

I must admit my limited knowledge about a lot of things. The Mormon faith is one of them. That being said, with the limited knowledge that I have of the Mormon faith I can not vote for Romney anymore than some of you would vote for a Muslim..

I'd vote for Satan himself over Obama. Equal footing, but at least Old Scratch is upfront about things.

Minority impractical conscience will not help this ailing nation. At all.

- OS

Edited May 5, 2012 by OhShoot

[mav]

I must admit that I am amazed at the level of devotion of Paul supporters towards Dr. Paul. As I have stated on numerous occasions, Dr. Paul was the only candidate running for the presidency who was worth a crap. However, he lost. In all honesty, how is it possible for Paul to obtain a victory in the general election if he can't win the nomination from his own party? It isn't. Are people suddenly going to come to the realization that they made a huge mistake in the primary and start flocking to Paul in the general? Nope.

Some may argue that voting for the "lesser of the evils" is a capitulation of their values and principles. It isn't. Voting for a candidate in which you don't share a lot of the values with versus a candidate whom you know has been a complete disaster is being pragmatic. You are not compromising your values. You are essentially cutting your losses in the hopes of fighting another day.

Some may argue that their love of country is the reason they can't support anyone but their candidate, in this case, Dr. Paul. Fair enough, but do you believe that those who have chosen to support the nominee over their preferred candidate have less love for their country than you? Certainly not. While Paul is my guy, I will be voting for Romney because I know how bad our current president is. Obama has been an absolute disaster during his first term in office.

Since we are talking about Paul and Paul's primary focus is fiscal policy, I will keep my arguments solely related to those matters. During Obama's first three years over $5 trillion has been spent. If he wins another term, we will be looking at an additional $7 - 10 trillion in deficit spending. Obamacare will kick in during his second term, and we all know how much of a financial boondoggle that will be. Who knows what Obama will try to do with executive orders during he second term. Obama has publically stated that if he can't work with congress that he will bypass them. In a lame duck session without the worry of reelection, does anyone honestly think that Obama will slow down implementing his agenda? Of course he won't. If anything, he will put it in overdrive. We truly can't afford to allow Obama a second term in office.

Anyone with half a brain knows that we are headed towards a financial cliff. The question now becomes, do you want to enter into a suicide pact with the current driver (Obama) and pick up speed as you approach the cliff, or do you want to change to a driver (Romney) who may slow the car down and still leave the possibility of getting another driver in the future who may slow it down even further? While I admire the loyalty of Paul supporters, their rigidness in supporting a candidate who can't win and refusing to vote for the nominee is irrational. While their intentions are good, the exact opposite of what they desire (a move towards sound fiscal policy, elimination of Obamacare, etc...) will occur if Obama wins a second term. This is what will happen if people refuse to vote for the nominee. Continuing to hold out for Paul really is nothing more than a case of wishful thinking.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I must admit my limited knowledge about a lot of things. The Mormon faith is one of them. That being said, with the limited knowledge that I have of the Mormon faith I can not vote for Romney anymore than some of you would vote for a Muslim.

If we are choosing the lesser of two evils Ron Paul would also be my choice. Absent that choice I will let the chips fall where they may.

Plenty of information on Mormon beliefs on the web. I've known lots of Mormons all my life. I don't understand the problems

some claim to have. Now, if you are somehow backhanding a comparison between Mormons and Muslims, you tell a lot.

[Guest ThePunisher]

I must admit that I am amazed at the level of devotion of Paul supporters towards Dr. Paul. As I have stated on numerous occasions, Dr. Paul was the only candidate running for the presidency who was worth a crap. However, he lost. In all honesty, how is it possible for Paul to obtain a victory in the general election if he can't win the nomination from his own party? It isn't. Are people suddenly going to come to the realization that they made a huge mistake in the primary and start flocking to Paul in the general? Nope.

Some may argue that voting for the "lesser of the evils" is a capitulation of their values and principles. It isn't. Voting for a candidate in which you don't share a lot of the values with versus a candidate whom you know has been a complete disaster is being pragmatic. You are not compromising your values. You are essentially cutting your losses in the hopes of fighting another day.

Some may argue that their love of country is the reason they can't support anyone but their candidate, in this case, Dr. Paul. Fair enough, but do you believe that those who have chosen to support the nominee over their preferred candidate have less love for their country than you? Certainly not. While Paul is my guy, I will be voting for Romney because I know how bad our current president is. Obama has been an absolute disaster during his first term in office.

Since we are talking about Paul and Paul's primary focus is fiscal policy, I will keep my arguments solely related to those matters. During Obama's first three years over $5 trillion has been spent. If he wins another term, we will be looking at an additional $7 - 10 trillion in deficit spending. Obamacare will kick in during his second term, and we all know how much of a financial boondoggle that will be. Who knows what Obama will try to do with executive orders during he second term. Obama has publically stated that if he can't work with congress that he will bypass them. In a lame duck session without the worry of reelection, does anyone honestly think that Obama will slow down implementing his agenda? Of course he won't. If anything, he will put it in overdrive. We truly can't afford to allow Obama a second term in office.

Anyone with half a brain knows that we are headed towards a financial cliff. The question now becomes, do you want to enter into a suicide pact with the current driver (Obama) and pick up speed as you approach the cliff, or do you want to change to a driver (Romney) who may slow the car down and still leave the possibility of getting another driver in the future who may slow it down even further? While I admire the loyalty of Paul supporters, their rigidness in supporting a candidate who can't win and refusing to vote for the nominee is irrational. While their intentions are good, the exact opposite of what they desire (a move towards sound fiscal policy, elimination of Obamacare, etc...) will occur if Obama wins a second term. This is what will happen if people refuse to vote for the nominee. Continuing to hold out for Paul really is nothing more than a case of wishful thinking.

Well said Mav

I knew that the Hope and Change that the commie was campaigning on was BS. I knew that Obama was a Marxist commie when he said that he was going to transform America. I knew that Obama hated capitalism and wanted America's economic system to collapse. He has done everything in his power to stifle the growth of the economy. I knew the commie was not a Christian because Communism is antithetical to God. I knew the little commie and his cronies would circumvent the Constitution and they have. I knew the commie was anti-gun rights because there can be no gun ownership if he declares himself dictator, and this will be a real possibility if he gets 4 more years. They have to create assinine policies like Fast and Furious to try to create gun control laws, and eventually confiscate all guns. Gun control is not about gun control, it is about control of the people. I knew the commie would shove Obamacare down the people's throat against their wishes and he did. Obamacare is not about health care, it is about government control of the people. I knew the commie was anti-energy and cheap energy when he keeps supporting expensive green energy that does nothing to create jobs. Green energy is nothing more than control of the people. I knew the commie hated American exceptionalism when he goes to foreign countries and apologizes for America being so powerful and wealthy. This is selling your country out.

I didn't vote for Obama to prove that I wasn't a racist, and I will not vote for Obama in November to prove that I'm stupid. Obama can take his communist/socialist campaign slogan " FORWARD " and stick it up his arse. I will not contribute to the further destruction of America by voting for a commie dictator who prides himself with that dictator pose of tilting his head high and back. This logic of not voting for the lesser of the two evils is the reason we've got a commie in the WH. This kind of reasoning is what is destroying America. By not voting for Romney in November will make you accessories to completely destroying America that we've all loved. ABO is the only hope of saving America. You cannot destroy America with hope of rebuilding America. When America is gone, then all your hope is gone.

Edited May 6, 2012 by ThePunisher

[jtmaze]

I don't think selling this here is a problem. I got into a very heated discussion with my father in law in Michigan over this very same thing. His argument was that if enough people vote the third party then the people in Washington will wake up and realize that they have to do what the voters want. I am not going to go any further but to say 30%+30%+40%=BHO. That is no good.

JTM🔫

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[mikegideon]

The only thing that will motivate those sorry souls in Washington is a fear of losing their cushy jobs. Big votes for Ron won't accomplish that. I would be a much happier guy if he had enough support to win. He simply doesn't. In fact, it's about the only thing we can count on. Ron Paul won't be the president.

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

Ron Paul won't be the president.

It's this type of attitude that will keep this country from regaining respect and get back on track.

[Lumber_Jack]

It's this type of attitude that will keep this country from regaining respect and get back on track.

Quite the contrary. It's the lack of 'that attitude' that will reelect Obama and change America forever. People think 4 more years will of Obama will get true revolution. But what if it just changed us to a socialist state for the next 100yrs.

[Guest ThePunisher]

It's this type of attitude that will keep this country from regaining respect and get back on track.

The only way for America to get back on track and regain respect is to get rid of the commie in the WH along with his commie cronies. That is the ONLY Goal to accomplish what you want for America. Get in line behind Romney if you want America to regain respect and back on track.

[tnhawk]

A candidate who can not gain enough support to win a primary, can not gain enough votes to win an election.