Govt limits under 18 yr olds from working on farms.

[Guest RobThatsMe]

I saw this in the news yesterday, and found this additional information on this topic.

If I were a small family run farm business, THIS would really piss me off. Since when do a bunch of liberals living in a city know what is best for our rural citizens! This is the type of underhanded work his appointed CZARS can do.

How much more damage can Obummer do to this great country before he gets tossed out?

Obama Ban on Youth Farm Chores Part of Larger Power Grab

Kurt Nimmo

Infowars.com

April 25, 2012

Dredging up Dickensian horrors of child labor, the Obama administration has ordered the Labor Department to apply child labor laws to family farms. The new rules would make it illegal for children to perform a large number of labor tasks that have been performed by farm families for centuries. Traditionally, adults and children alike helped with planting and harvesting in the spring and fall, but the federal government is now determined not only to make this a historical footnote, but a criminal offense.

Children have worked with their families on farms for centuries. It is the reason there is now a “summer vacation†for school kids.

Under the rules, children under 18 would be prevented by the federal government from working “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials†and prohibited “places of employment would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.â€

In addition to making it far more difficult for families to work their farms, the new rules will revoke the government’s approval of safety training and certification taught by independent groups like 4-H and FFA and replace them with a 90-hour federal government training course, the Daily Caller reports.

In other words, the federal government will forcibly insert itself in the business of teaching animal husbandry and crop management, disciplines traditionally passed on by families and local communities.

Government apparatchiks will now oversee the business of local farming the same way Stalin did when he collectivized farms and “socialized†production at gunpoint in the Soviet Union. Resistance by farmers and peasants to Stalin’s efforts resulted in the government cutting off food rations, which resulted in widespread famine (the “terror-famine in Ukraine†killed around 12 million people) and millions were sent to forced labor camps.

The Labor Department’s effort to further erode the family farm falls on the heels of an unconstitutional executive order Obama issued last year establishing so-called rural councils.

“According to this new executive order, the Obama administration plans to stick its itchy little fingers into just about every aspect of rural life,†the Economic Collapse Blog noted at the time. “One of the stated goals of the White House Rural Council is to do the following….â€

Coordinate and increase the effectiveness of Federal engagement with rural stakeholders, including agricultural organizations, small businesses, education and training institutions, health-care providers, telecommunications services providers, research and land grant institutions, law enforcement, State, local, and tribal governments, and nongovernmental organizations regarding the needs of rural America.

Obama’s plan to make life miserable for family farmers coincides with an effort by the United Nations under Agenda 21. Section one of the executive order mentions “sustainable rural communities,†language right out of Agenda 21. (For more on the draconian aspects of Agenda 21 and the plan to roll back modern civilization under the aegis of “sustainability,†see Rosa Koire’s Behind the Green Mask: U.N. Agenda 21.)

The federal government has recently moved to clamp down on family farms. For instance, last year the Department of Transportation proposed new burdensome rules for farmers. Incidentally, DOT Secretary Ray LaHood holds a seat on the newly created White House Rural Council.

“In Late May, the DOT proposed a rule change for farm equipment, and if it this allowed to take effect, it will place significant regulatory pressure on small farms and family farms all across America – costing them thousands of dollars and possibly forcing many of them out of business,†writes Mike Opelka. “The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), part of the Department of Transportation (DOT), wants new standards that would require all farmers and everyone on the farm to obtain a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) in order to operate any farming equipment. The agency is going to accomplish this by reclassifying all farm vehicles and implements as Commercial Motor Vehicles (CMVs).â€

Late last year, House Republicans moved to prevent the EPA from further burdening farmers with a rule that would ban “farm dust.†Outrage in response to the proposed regulation came fast and furious and EPA boss Lisa Jackson was forced to back down as Democrats complained that the government was not targeting small family farms with the proposed regulation.

A concerted effort by the federal government to attack small family farms cannot be denied. Infowars.com has covered dozens of efforts, including the attack on Rawesome Foods in California, numerous efforts by the feds to attack raw milk and dairy farmers (including attacks by the FDA on Amish farmers), and a recent effort by the Department of Natural Resources in Michigan to destroy open-range pig farms.

In addition to attempting to micromanage – and run out of business – family farms through federal labor regulations, the government is trying to insert itself in the relationship between parents and their children.

The ongoing attacks on family farming are not merely misguided efforts by control freak bureaucrats. They are part of a larger “comprehensive plan of action†to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations to institute “sustainable development,†a philosophy designed to bring humanity under tight control of the global elite.

As George H. W. Bush said on September 11, 1990, the plan is “based entirely on social control mechanisms.†For the elite, controlling food – especially healthy and natural food produced by family farms – is a primary objective in their plan for global conquest.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I saw Sen John Thune on Greta's show last night complaining about this, also.

"Since when do a bunch of liberals living in a city know what is best for our rural citizens!"

It really doesn't matter what they know. It does matter what their goals are to understand what is

happening. Their political ideology is based on death. It has a finite value of human beings,and ends

poorly for society, like it's destruction, since it can not thrive without consuming itself. Free markets and

the free exchange of ideas reject anything a liberal can throw at them, eventually. We just haven't

rejected it, yet. There are too many clingers to the false hope of liberalism, or, communism.

[daddyo]

If it wasn't official before, it is now - Obama HATES America AND small business.

Edited April 26, 2012 by DaddyO

[hkgonra]

I tried to talk to people about this a few months ago when Glenn Beck was talking about it and everyone said I was a nut and that this would never happen.

Edited April 26, 2012 by hkgonra

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Nah, you're not a nut, hk, and don't worry about the internet experts who say Beck is crazy, either. He may

have his moments, but he is beginning to look like a prophet surrounded by sheep.

[Smith]

Well, it worked so well for the CCCP (Russia). Right? Why does the Fed keeping borrowing ideas known to be abysmal failures?

Edited April 26, 2012 by Smith

[mcurrier]

All part of Agenda 21.

[Troutburger]

Too bad they didn't pass this 20-30 years ago. There's a lot of darn hay, straw, and sh@t I would not have had to move....lol!

:yuck:

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well, it worked so well for the CCCP (Russia). Right? Why does the Fed keeping borrowing ideas known to be abysmal failures?

Soviet Russia knew they were doomed. We keep allowing fools to try this old communist junk.

[Ebow1]

This is the government. They wouldn't have moved the hay for you. They would've watched and supervised and came up with dozens of obscure rules to tell you HOW to move the hay and straw. The rules may seem ridiculous, but remember, they would be necessary for your safety and the safety of those around you. Also you would've had to pay money to watch a video about all the new rules and then pay more money to get some kind of permit or certification, I'm sure.

[Garufa]

Sounds like the beginning of a jobs program for illegals. Ban Americans from doing the work, then farmers will be forced to find cheap labor.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Makes sense. Hadn't thought of that.

[Caster]

I told people around me years ago that O'douche would pave the way to making it illegal to grow your own food. Everyone laughed at me. The harder you make it on the farmers, the more farmers will say screw it and do something else.

Remember, you can have all the guns you want but if you control food, you control people.

[Will Carry]

This is just wrong. We used to prime tobacco when I was 14. They payed us $1.90 and hour. I needed that money.

[Smith]

This is just wrong. We used to prime tobacco when I was 14. They payed us $1.90 and hour. I needed that money.

No, you needed the government to provide you with "benefits" - instead of a job.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

An excellent early allegory on the nanny state was a 1947 Jack Williamson SF short story, "With Folded Hands". The plot features robots "supplying every need" to ensure human happiness. Eventually preventing humans from doing anything dangerous, to protect humans from harm. Harmful toys were removed from the children and replaced with soft plastic toys so that the little darlings would never accidentally suffer injury. Adults were prevented from operating vehicles, using tools, or anything else which might result in injury. If a human were to become injured then the human would not be happy about his injury, and the mission of the robots was to make humans happy. The prime directive-- "To serve and obey, and guard men from harm." It is merely OSHA, FDA, EPA, and the rest of the welfare state on steroids.

http://en.wikipedia....th_Folded_Hands

There was a not-too-shabby radio dramatization of the short story done in 1950. This link is a youtube playlist of all the old 1950 "Dimension X" radio dramatizations. If you want to hear the entire 30 minute show without cueing the individual three 10 minute sections, go to this playlist link http://www.youtube.c...6D&feature=plcp and start play at item 5 in the playlist. If you have autoplay enabled in the playlist, it will automatically play the items 5, 6, 7 (and more old radio shows if you don't click the stop button).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdkuREfrHYo&feature=BFa&list=PL9E56A9FF5B88446D

[Guest Scramasax]

Just another way to support Large corperate farms. Government subisidies and control of the food supply. Just like the laws against having your own family supply of food, water, firearms, etc. We are being set up for the new serfdom. Remember the Republic of the United States is still a very young experiment in the terms of history. The curtaining of states rights in the "Civil" war was the beginning of the end. The US is still the best country to live in for personal freedom, but that is being erroded daily. Onerous taxation and regulation of small business and loopholes for large business. Open boarders for illegal immigration, NAFTA to support Corperate owners and not the tax paying citizens.

Won't continue the rant. One either gets it or not.

Watch oyur six.

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[Motasyco]

Haying, milking, and barn cleaning paid for my first car when I was in high school. It taught me responsibility and the value of a dollar, things that apparently are no longer important in a society where getting a government handout is considered a win.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Trial balloon! The prez has back pedaled on this. http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/26/amid-nationwide-outcry-labor-dept-withdraws-farm-child-labor-rule/

[Ebow1]

He's just easing off while election campaigning is going on. If he wins, I bet this'll be right back on the table with his characteristic lack of concern for anything anyone else has to say about it.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

And a lot of other Executive orders will follow.

[Guest ThePunisher]

When is everybody gonna wake up and realize that this is not America anymore?

[Glenn]

When is everybody gonna wake up and realize that this is not America anymore?

Sadly, it appears that most don't care. Makes me sick to think about all that has been sacrificed to protect our country, and now it is just rotting from within.

Glenn

[jtmaze]

Too bad they didn't pass this 20-30 years ago. There's a lot of darn hay, straw, and sh@t I would not have had to move....lol!

:yuck:

I was thinking the same thing. I started hauling hay at 12 and my family didn't own a farm. Now I will scare all the youngun's.....I made $2.35 an hour and was glad to get it. It showed me at a young age that if your wanted things you had to work.

[Guest 270win]

What next, will boys not be able to cut grass or rake leaves for money?