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Guest ArmyVeteran37214
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ra6GFks0ms

http://www.infowars.com/2nd-amendment-sneak-attack/

Bill Allows IRS To Revoke Second Amendment Rights By Stealth

Daisy Luther

Infowars.com

April 24, 2012

It looks like the power of the IRS to revoke passports is merely a drop in the tyrannical bucket.

The Senate has voted to approve Bill 1813, which is now on its way to the House. The insidious bill has so many attacks on freedom that the most serious one has been largely overlooked.

There are two attacks on gun ownership in this bill. The text of the bill, all 1676 pages of it, can be found HERE.

The first attack on the right to bear arms is found on page 1323.

The Secretary may modify, suspend, or terminate a special permit or approval if the Secretary determines that—(1) the person who was granted the special permit or approval has violated the special permit or approval or the regulations issued under this chapter in a manner that demonstrates that the person is not fit to conduct the activity authorized by the special permit or approval; or (2) the special permit or approval is unsafe.

In the ambiguous language that the Congress so loves to employ in all things unconstitutional, we can translate that to the parental favorite, “Because I said so.â€

The second attack on gun ownership is more subtle.

There is a stream of logic that you have to follow.

First, if this bill passes, the IRS will have the authority to take away the passports of those whom they say owe more than $50,000 in taxes. (The tax debt doesn’t have to be proven, mind you, the IRS simply has to accuse you of owing the money.) You can find this section on page 1447 of the Bill.

When your passport is revoked by the government, you are suddenly on the “no-fly listâ€.

Membership in the no-fly club puts you on yet another list, as a potential domestic terrorist.

Domestic terrorists are not allowed to have guns.

Don’t believe me? Listen to Raul Emanuel gloat of it. He eloquently states “If you are known as maybe a possible terrorist you cannot buy a handgun in America.†(1:13 of the video)

Emanuel, the Mayor of Chicago and former Obama Chief of Staff, makes the top of my personal treason list for this statement. In his own words, “maybe a possible terrorist†means you shouldn’t be allowed the rights guaranteed to you as an American. No proof necessary.

Bill 1813, â€Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Actâ€, is chock full of new ways to take away our personal freedoms. The bill would require “stalker boxes†on our vehicles, puts a huge number of restrictions on travel and transportation within the US, allows the government to revoke documents and licenses in ambiguous language and is, in essence, nearly 1700 pages of new restrictions. (You can find a summary HERE if you don’t want to read all 1676 pages).

A Call to Action

Did your Senator vote for this bill? There’s a good chance he or she did, as only 22 Senators voted against it. You can find out how your senator voted HERE.

The bill was sponsored by Barbara Boxer (California) and co-sponsored by Max Baucus (Montana), James N. Inhofe (Oklahoma), and David Vitter (Louisiana). For your convenience, I’ve included links to the contact information for each of these Senators. Be sure and send an email to let them know how you feel about this new attack on freedom.

Email your Representatives and make it very clear that you consider this Bill an act of treason against the Constitution. This directory contains email addresses and contact information for all members of Congress.

Every bill that goes through Congress right now appears to hold another threat to the Constitution (if not multiple threats). Every word needs to be carefully analyzed so we can fight these attacks.

Guest No Ammo
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Just a sign of things to come :rant:

Posted (edited)

What a load of crap.

If that bill infringes on anyone's 2nd amendment rights well then I guess Romney really will repeal Obabacare. :rolleyes:

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Guest Matt Pavo
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All we can hope for is that Obama does something stupid enough to give Romney the lead, in which case we will get a somewhat less liberal president. How did America become the nation that takes pride in electing an extreme liberal but is scared to give a strong conservative such as Santorum a chance?

Posted

This is a lot of unsupported hype. First, the "special permit" the Infowars article talks about has almost nothing to do with individual gun rights. The "special permit" that could be revoked is a permit that would allow transporters to have approval to avoid certain safety requirements in commercial transmodal shipping. Shipping of guns could fall into that category, but a revocation of the "special permit" only means that the transporter would have to go back to meeting the safety requirements that already exist.

Second, the issue of the passport revocation also isn't as easy as Infowars makes it out to be. The passport cannot be taken simply by the IRS "accusing" you of owing the debt. The passport revocation can only occur after the IRS has filed a lien or notice of levy for the debt. Even then, there are some restrictions. IRS liens and levies do not just happen. There is a lot of notice to the taxpayer before any of that happens.

Unfortunately, Infowars has become very unreliable on these issues. No doubt the goverment expansion of power is a problem, but this is just not what Infowars says it is.

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Guest bkelm18
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This is a lot of unsupported hype. First, the "special permit" the Infowars article talks about has almost nothing to do with individual gun rights. The "special permit" that could be revoked is a permit that would allow transporters to have approval to avoid certain safety requirements in commercial transmodal shipping. Shipping of guns could fall into that category, but a revocation of the "special permit" only means that the transporter would have to go back to meeting the safety requirements that already exist.

Second, the issue of the passport revocation also isn't as easy as Infowars makes it out to be. The passport cannot be taken simply by the IRS "accusing" you of owing the debt. The passport revocation can only occur after the IRS has filed a lien or notice of levy for the debt. Even then, there are some restrictions. IRS liens and levies do not just happen. There is a lot of notice to the taxpayer before any of that happens.

Unfortunately, Infowars has become very unreliable on these issues. No doubt the goverment expansion of power is a problem, but this is just not what Infowars says it is.

You mean Infowars is just putting out right wing propaganda?? You don't say. :P

Posted

You mean Infowars is just putting out right wing propaganda?? You don't say. :P

It's become more like "far out, man" wing than merely right. He makes George Norry seem rank and file most of the time.

- OS

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George Norry is alright. I usually enjoy his shows. Alex Jones is a nut job and Infowars is a website for those with more than one screw loose.

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Every time I turn around, somebody is 'Gonna take our guns away'

Not to be rude to the OP, but I'm bored with it. Some days I just wish they'd try. They will someday, but they KNOW now is NOT the time.

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