Did Federal's headstamp change...

[Guest Kamikaze]

When they went to small primer'ed .45acp?

[Guest canebreaker]

I have federal and FC. What do you have?

[Guest Kamikaze]

I just noticed that the federal with the large primer says federal across the top and .45ACP across the bottom. All of the small primer looks the same but has a dot on each side between the Federal, and .45ACP.

I got curious and resorted about 1200 pieces of brass tonight and I didn't find a single exception. I did find a .45GAP that snuck in there though.

Blazer sucks though because there head stamp is the same.

[Guest Kamikaze]

Here it is. See the dots?

[chances R]

Also have some speer with the small primer

[Guest Kamikaze]

I wish everyone would mark the small primer brass. That would make life easier.

[Guest vthokies03]

i think the champion line has the small primers in the 45s.

[Dolomite_supafly]

And any of you who hate the small primer 45 acp brass I will take it. I will gladly pay shipping because I like small primered brass better than large. My 1911 will light off small rifle primers so I can use them for my 1911.

Dolomite

[Guest Kamikaze]

I don't mind it, its just hard to sort sometimes.

[Guest Krash]

Hello,

I am new here and new to reloading also but I have some Federal small primer .45 ACP that has "NT" stamped and no dots.

Trying to post a picture, but I guess I cant upload here? Looks like I have to upload to another site and then link?

Thanks

Edited April 6, 2012 by Krash

[Dolomite_supafly]

Hello,

I am new here and new to reloading also but I have some Federal small primer .45 ACP that has "NT" stamped and no dots.

Trying to post a picture, but I guess I cant upload here? Looks like I have to upload to another site and then link?

Thanks

The "NT" stuff was the line that was considered nontoxic.

Dolomite

[deafdogdief]

Whether can one find small primer loading data? I have heard you can use the same charge, but I want to see it in vendor's print!

[Dolomite_supafly]

You use the same load data. I have loaded thousands of 45 acp with about 1/2 being small primer. Never had a single issue using the same load data for large primers with small primers.

I have also loaded them with CCI 400, CCI 41, Remington 6.5 and Remington 7.5 as well as Wolf Small Rifle Magnum. And I have never had an issue. I don't even change the load data between them but I do stay on the lower end of charge weights. My loads are generally what it takes to cycle the action. Rarely do I load them HOT.

You are not going to find small primer load data in print because the data is the same for both large and small. 45 ACP is 45 ACP and the data is the same no matter what size the primer pocket is.

The only difference might be magnum vs standard but that applies regardless of primer pocket size. If I were at or above max with standard primers I would not just swap in magnum primers without working up first. The times when I have used standard primers at or above max I do work up the loads then I do it again if switching to magnum primers. But realistically there is no real need to use magnum primers in 45 acp. I used small rifle primers when I do not have small pistol primers. I do this with 9mm as well.

If I have standard primers that is what I will use but if I don't I use small rifle without worry.

Dolomite

[MarkInNashville]

And any of you who hate the small primer 45 acp brass I will take it. I will gladly pay shipping because I like small primered brass better than large. My 1911 will light off small rifle primers so I can use them for my 1911.

Dolomite

I have been seriously thinking about switching to all small primer .45 as well (but after I use a few thousand of the large primers I have ` lol). But you have raised a question in my mind. I have both a 1911 and striker fired (S&W M&P) guns, are there cases where stiker fired doesn't have reliable ignition? The M&P popped all of the factory rounds with no problem.

Edited April 7, 2012 by MarkInNashville

[Dolomite_supafly]

I have been seriously thinking about switching to all small primer .45 as well (but after I use a few thousand of the large primers I have ` lol). But you have raised a question in my mind. I have both a 1911 and striker fired (S&W M&P) guns, are there cases where stiker fired doesn't have reliable ignition? The M&P popped all of the factory rounds with no problem.

As long as you use small pistol primer you shouldn't have an issue. Even small pistol magnum should not be a problem.

With certain guns small rifle it can cause problems. I have a friend who used CCI 400's for his striker fired 9mm Ruger and would have about 1 in 10 not ignite on the first strike. You could always load 10 and try them.

Dolomite

[deafdogdief]

You use the same load data. I have loaded thousands of 45 acp with about 1/2 being small primer. Never had a single issue using the same load data for large primers with small primers.

I have also loaded them with CCI 400, CCI 41, Remington 6.5 and Remington 7.5 as well as Wolf Small Rifle Magnum. And I have never had an issue. I don't even change the load data between them but I do stay on the lower end of charge weights. My loads are generally what it takes to cycle the action. Rarely do I load them HOT.

You are not going to find small primer load data in print because the data is the same for both large and small. 45 ACP is 45 ACP and the data is the same no matter what size the primer pocket is.

The only difference might be magnum vs standard but that applies regardless of primer pocket size. If I were at or above max with standard primers I would not just swap in magnum primers without working up first. The times when I have used standard primers at or above max I do work up the loads then I do it again if switching to magnum primers. But realistically there is no real need to use magnum primers in 45 acp. I used small rifle primers when I do not have small pistol primers. I do this with 9mm as well.

If I have standard primers that is what I will use but if I don't I use small rifle without worry.

Dolomite

Thanks!