Don't think this is how the "stand your ground law" works

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Under the law, a lynch mob isn't supposed to determine how many times it has to be reviewed,

just to get what a media circus ramps up, and get more "justice".

[mikegideon]

That's where the evidence points, as far as I can tell, too.

You two are obviously racists.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Worst around!

[mikegideon]

I'm calling you whitey from now on. Well, maybe Uncle Whitey

[Guest 6.8 AR]

That would confuse people. You might reconsider.

[kieefer]

Finally, the honorable Congressman Allen West has spoke out against the Black Panthers bounty.

We'll wait for the Uncle Tom name calling to come later.

http://weaselzippers.us/

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Edited March 28, 2012 by kieefer

[Guest 6.8 AR]

http://widget.newsin...dailycaller_top

Congressman Bobby Rush is showing how much of an idiot he is in the House.

Edited March 28, 2012 by 6.8 AR

[mikegideon]

Bobby Rush was born an idiot

[Mike.357]

Well if calling it like it is makes a racist I will wear that moniker.

Thought I heard on the Fox this morning that the Panther guy was arrested for his bounty offering.

I feel that anything less than the needle for zimmerman will not appease the masses.

[mikegideon]

He needs to be arrested. I saw somewhere he was arrested on a weapons charge, and he's a felon. Didn't follow the link.

Edited March 28, 2012 by mikegideon

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well if calling it like it is makes a racist I will wear that moniker.

Thought I heard on the Fox this morning that the Panther guy was arrested for his bounty offering.

I feel that anything less than the needle for zimmerman will not appease the masses.

You mean the masses that have been mobilized, don't you? Agreed.

[Oh Shoot]

...Thought I heard on the Fox this morning that the Panther guy was arrested for his bounty offering...

Was arrested for gun possession as a felon. Pawned handgun, wasn't actually on him when arrested.

http://www.ajc.com/news/bond-set-for-new-1398575.html

- OS

[Links2k]

Why have we never seen Mr. John Q. Public white collar working man, who got beat down by some ghetto thugs, in the same light?

There's no public outrage when some working man gets killed for his wallet. I guess that's just whitey getting what he deserves.

I say we need to watch and find the next working man that gets killed from a drive by or something and blow it all out of proportion. Then we can blame all the Sharptons, Jackson's and other trash for not controlling THEIR people. Ohh wait, that would make me a racial bigot for even making such a suggestion.

It's no wonder this country is about to collapse. The morons of this country wanna get wound up and burn millions upon millions in resources to cry about this one instance; Meanwhile, we're all about to starve and be branded with our number of enslavement.

Ok, I laughed. You accomplished your mission.

[CQB Elite]

I’m not letting emotion over take common sense. I’m a former Police Officer. While I’m not an expert on Florida law and what Florida juries will do, as you claim to be, I know you can’t create a dangerous situation and then claim self-defense.

If the evidence doesn’t support charges why did the Stanford Police ask the States Attorney’s Zimmerman?

Dave, I'm not going to get in a pi**ing contest with you over this. But I am going to offer this in rebuttal:

1) There is no such crime as "involuntary manslaughter" in Florida. It's just called manslaughter. FSS 787.07.

2) Law enforcement routinely asks the SAO to file charges, especially those of a high profile nature. That puts the ball in their court.

3) I am an expert in Fl law and the court system there because that's where I worked. I had to make decisions everyday whether to arrest someone or not and had to have a pretty darned good working knowledge of the statutes to be able to do so. I have also attended tons of depositions and court trials so this gives me a good understanding of how the court system there works. Like I said before, these have been all across the state and not limited to just one judicial circuit. I also have the pleasure of having several former Asst State's Attornies as friends.

[RobertNashville]

Maybe I'm wrong but as facts have bubbled to the surface over the last several days I've noticed a few here who were so dead certain that the shooter was in the wrong are starting to change their tune just a bit; at least their posts now seem less sure of their earlier assertions - I still don't know who was in the wrong here (and said so from the beginning) but I'm starting to suspect that some here are going to find out that their early certainty was misguided.

I only hope at this point that with all the black racists who decided to inject themselves into this (Jackson, Sharpton, Spike Lee, and our own socialist in chief, to name a few) that ALL the facts will actually be allowed to come out and the truth sought wherever it leads.

[Mike.357]

Was arrested for gun possession as a felon. Pawned handgun, wasn't actually on him when arrested.

http://www.ajc.com/news/bond-set-for-new-1398575.html

- OS

I was only half listening, did not know why he was popped. Here is hoping jail time is part of it.

[TMF]

Maybe I'm wrong but as facts have bubbled to the surface over the last several days I've noticed a few here who were so dead certain that the shooter was in the wrong are starting to change their tune just a bit; at least their posts now seem less sure of their earlier assertions - I still don't know who was in the wrong here (and said so from the beginning) but I'm starting to suspect that some here are going to find out that their early certainty was misguided.

I only hope at this point that with all the black racists who decided to inject themselves into this (Jackson, Sharpton, Spike Lee, and our own socialist in chief, to name a few) that ALL the facts will actually be allowed to come out and the truth sought wherever it leads.

Well not me. I still believe that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation. Whether Martin was beating him up or not doesn't matter.

The only alternative is to believe that, for no reason, Martin just randomly assaulted Zimmerman and it's ALL just a big 'ol coincidence that Zimmerman was following him around playing pretend cop.

Save your "I told ya so's" for the playground.

[RobertNashville]

...I still believe that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation.

So what if he did? If he did does that mean Zimmermen must then allow himself to be beaten to death? Some seem to think so; I think that line of thinking is Bovine Scatoloty.

Whether Martin was beating him up or not doesn't matter.

I think it does.

The only alternative is to believe that, for no reason, Martin just randomly assaulted Zimmerman and it's ALL just a big 'ol coincidence that Zimmerman was following him around playing pretend cop.

Really...that is the one, the only alternative? You think that there is absolutely not other possible explanation?

I think perhaps you are mistaking assumptions and assertions for facts.

Save your "I told ya so's" for the playground.

Sometimes TGO reminds me of a playground; certainly the internet in general does!

Anyway, belief and facts often have little to do with each other; most especially when most of the facts aren't even known yet.

Edited March 28, 2012 by RobertNashville

[daddyo]

Sometimes TGO reminds me of a playground; certainly the internet in general does!

Anyway, belief and facts often have little to do with each other; most especially when most of the facts aren't even known yet.

Robert, I can't help but notice that you've done your share of throwing sand.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

Maybe I'm wrong but as facts have bubbled to the surface over the last several days I've noticed a few here who were so dead certain that the shooter was in the wrong are starting to change their tune just a bit; at least their posts now seem less sure of their earlier assertions - I still don't know who was in the wrong here (and said so from the beginning) but I'm starting to suspect that some here are going to find out that their early certainty was misguided.

I only hope at this point that with all the black racists who decided to inject themselves into this (Jackson, Sharpton, Spike Lee, and our own socialist in chief, to name a few) that ALL the facts will actually be allowed to come out and the truth sought wherever it leads.

I try to be flexible enough to change conclusion with changing evidence and try not to be too proud to admit being wrong. Trying ain't the same as succeeding.

Have learned more about the case and perhaps am closed-minded and stubborn, but the provisional conclusion remains the same as my first post #10 in this thread-- It is quite possible that it was a legal shoot AFTER THE SCUFFLE STARTED and most likely bad judgement to act in a way to make the scuffle so easy to happen.

Ain't claiming to have good judgement, but this exact scenario would never happen to me because I'd just call 911 and go about my biz. Would not follow the kid, get out of the car and persue the kid when he starts running, etc. That whole sequence just reeks of bad judgement to me. Maybe I would drive up beside the kid, roll down the window and friendly-say something like, "Hows it going today? Are you lost? Do you need directions?" Or maybe even that would be poorer judgement than letting the popo do its job.

Dunno if the bad judgement rises to a criminal level. Folks have been put in jail for bad judgement and honest mistakes. A fellow negligently sets up a crane then the crane falls and kills somebody. A fellow is too foolish to slow down in the snow and wipes out a family with his semi. A fellow thinks he's Barney Fife and a kid ends up shot. Dunno nothin about law.

[RobertNashville]

Robert, I can't help but notice that you've done your share of throwing sand.

Yeah? So what? You want to make something of it???

[mikegideon]

Yeah? So what? You want to make something of it???

You two gonna flip a coin to see who gets the hoodie, and who gets the gun? Something tells me, nobody will get shot.

[mikegideon]

The world according to a liberal idiot. How can some douchebag from Kalifornia seriously talk about changing Florida law?

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_mid#/video/us/2012/03/28/hln-dr-drew-maher-on-trayvon-sex-and-speech.cnn

[daddyo]

The world according to a liberal idiot. How can some douchebag from Kalifornia seriously talk about changing Florida law?

http://www.cnn.com/v...-and-speech.cnn

Ya know, when I clicked on the link and saw that it was Maher, I shut it down. I'm not the least bit interested in anything that douchenozzle has to say.

[mikegideon]

I always wanna know what they're thinking.