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Raoul

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I'm standing in line at the grocery store today behind 2 350 pound women. Each has a buggy holding about 12 cases of soda. They're checking out and the cashier comments on the quantity of drinks they're buying. As they hand over their EBT cards one comments that they're gonna need them because they're camping out at Bristol Motor Speedway this weekend.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

Excuse me but I have to go shoot at something. I quit for the day.

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Dude, don't get me started. I waited behind a woman the other day wearing all kinds of jewelry and fancy clothes, while the cashier separated out what could be paid for with her wic voucher. Then she continued to buy a couple of hundred dollars worth of absolute crap. After that she proceeded over to buy her kids about $10 worth of crap from the toy vending machines (bubble gum style machines). Finally after they checked me out, I went to load my 8 year old truck and there she was loading up her brand new crossover.

It's NSFW but google "it's free swipe yo EBT'.

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Dude, don't get me started. I waited behind a woman the other day wearing all kinds of jewelry and fancy clothes, while the cashier separated out what could be paid for with her wic voucher. Then she continued to buy a couple of hundred dollars worth of absolute crap. After that she proceeded over to buy her kids about $10 worth of crap from the toy vending machines (bubble gum style machines). Finally after they checked me out, I went to load my 8 year old truck and there she was loading up her brand new crossover.

It's NSFW but google "it's free swipe yo EBT'.

My understanding was that WIC isn't financially based.

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My understanding was that WIC isn't financially based.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/

WIC provides Federal grants to States for supplemental foods, health care referrals, and nutrition education for low-income pregnant, breastfeeding, and non-breastfeeding postpartum women, and to infants and children up to age five who are found to be at nutritional risk.

I used the Pre-Screening Tool to see if I would be elegible. Based on my income, I would not.

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if they have that kind of money, they probably paid their taxes into the handout system. If the system is so broken they can get their money back out of it, I can live with that.

WIC is something else. My whole life I have listened to blather about how women are equal to men and can do for themselves. Why do they need a special program then? Plenty of hungry men out there.... this program is sexist against men! Where is the MNFT (men need food too) program?!

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I know, but called up a sudden twisted vision of trucker you as being "pregnant, breastfeeding, or non-breastfeeding postpartum"!

- OS

Well, I unfortunately do have man-boobs. Equally as unfortunate, they didn't seem to help me in the pre-screening process. No free gummint cheese for me.

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What pisses me off more is that there is not a chance in hell that anything will be done to stop the fraud and abuse.

All we can do is complain and pay attention to who we vote for in office, locally and nationally.

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I was in a seafood shop in South Carolina last year and watched two women purchase two baskets of blue crabs

with a EBT card. i was waiting to buy a pound of shrimp and scallops. They were talking to the clerk about have a

roast/party at the beach.. I was pissed when I left.

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I was in a seafood shop in South Carolina last year and watched two women purchase two baskets of blue crabs

with a EBT card. i was waiting to buy a pound of shrimp and scallops. They were talking to the clerk about have a

roast/party at the beach.. I was pissed when I left.

Too weird. I saw the same thing happen. Well it was one family and one bushel of crabs...but stil.

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You wouldn't believe the number of people getting free medicine already. TennCare is driving our state broke, and Medicare/Medicaid is doing the same thing to the feds. People bitch about having to pay $2 for a 30 day supply of meds.

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I spoke to a local store when someone was using my brother's, who is a big POS, EBT card. I asked the cashier if she asked for his ID and she said the office that manages it said the store wasn't allowed to verify the identity of those using the card. The office said that if the person using it isn't the the same as the cardholder's name on the card then they must have permission from the cardholder to use the card. The office said if the store asked for ID to use the EBT card they could loose their ability to accept EBT cards for payment. And because the welfare system is big business most businesses don't want to chance loosing those customers.

I have told this story several times. There is a lady who comes into the local grocery store where my mother works every month. She buys tuna on her EBT card and not the cheap canned stuff but the expensive kind in pouches. She brags it is for her cats and that she will continue to use her EBT to buy it until they allow her to buy cat food for her cats using her EBT card. And I am not talking about a few pouches but every pouch of regular tuna the store had. She does it every single month and we are all paying for her cat's food.

WIC is different and is to help make sure children eat the right things and the right amounts. WIC has its problems too. The biggest problem is the WIC system authorizes way too much food for a child to eat. When I was a private in the Army we were approved for WIC as well as food stamps. I never took the food stamps but we did use WIC for a few months until we went overseas. He was born in January and came over in May. They expect a child to drink gallons upon gallons of milk as well as eat at least 30 pounds of cheese each month. And every item was the same, way too large of portions for the average child to eat.

As far as those wearing jewelery you really can't judge people based upon that. Some people might have fake stuff or it might be hand downs from family. I do have an issue with those who buy authorized food using their EBT card then pull out wads of cash to pay for those time they can't buy on their EBT cards. I have seen it more times than I can count, max out their EBT card then use cash to buy junk food, sodas, alcohol and cigarettes.

The system as a whole is broke. People are allowed to sit at home and collect a paycheck as long as they do not try to succeed in life. They are given just enough to keep them from losing hope. Personally, if you are collecting a government benefit you need to work. If nothing else pick up trash along side of the road for 2 hours a day or maybe answer information calls to government offices. But the worst thing is to pay people to sit around. And before any mother receives benefits for a child the child's father must be proven so he can replay the government for any support the child receives from the government.

I am also a huge supporter of drug testing for those who are receiving any government benefits. If you do not want to submit to a drug test you should not be given any benefits. Most employers these days require them so why should the government be any different. The choice is up to those applying. And if they fail they loose benefits for one month, second offense they loose benefits for 6 months and third time they loose benefits for life. Millions of people live their day to day lives without using illegal drugs so it can't be that hard.

And while we are at it, if you have had multiple kids and they have been taken you should be placed on semi permanent birth control until such time as you can prove you can support another child. And if the parents are not US citizens then the child should not be automatically a US citizen if they are born here. If one parent is a citizen then yes but not two, by default the child should take the mother's nationality.

Enough of my rant.

Dolomite

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WIC is different and is to help make sure children eat the right things and the right amounts. WIC has its problems too. The biggest problem is the WIC system authorizes way too much food for a child to eat. When I was a private in the Army we were approved for WIC as well as food stamps. I never took the food stamps but we did use WIC for a few months until we went overseas. He was born in January and came over in May. They expect a child to drink gallons upon gallons of milk as well as eat at least 30 pounds of cheese each month. And every item was the same, way too large of portions for the average child to eat.

Dolomite

Are you sure you aren't exaggerating there? I encouraged my SMs to go through the same process. It's definitely no where close to 30lbs and somewhere around 3 gallons per month for a kid. FWIW, with my 2 year old, about 2-3 gallons a month sounds correct. WIC also doesn't determine portion size......the parent does. Considering we're in a supersize me type America, it's no wonder why parents over feed their kids. Other benefits are something like $5-6 bucks a month for fruit/vegetables, 16oz of cheese, beans, bread, and eggs. TN might also have some other things offered but I don't know for sure.

I am 100% for feeding children. Since I have had my son, I look at children in a completely different light. I think it's a shame some people are allowed to have children. Kids should be given every opportunity to succeed, not sabotaged from the get go. If some of my tax dollars go to the WIC program, I have zero issue with that. What else is it going? A new carbine trial that is somehow going to get a different result than the last 3? New uniforms to replace the garbage that never should've been selected in the first place? Welfare for prison inmates? (Thanks for that CA!)

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Are you sure you aren't exaggerating there? I encouraged my SMs to go through the same process. It's definitely no where close to 30lbs and somewhere around 3 gallons per month for a kid. FWIW, with my 2 year old, about 2-3 gallons a month sounds correct. WIC also doesn't determine portion size......the parent does. Considering we're in a supersize me type America, it's no wonder why parents over feed their kids. Other benefits are something like $5-6 bucks a month for fruit/vegetables, 16oz of cheese, beans, bread, and eggs. TN might also have some other things offered but I don't know for sure.

I am 100% for feeding children. Since I have had my son, I look at children in a completely different light. I think it's a shame some people are allowed to have children. Kids should be given every opportunity to succeed, not sabotaged from the get go. If some of my tax dollars go to the WIC program, I have zero issue with that. What else is it going? A new carbine trial that is somehow going to get a different result than the last 3? New uniforms to replace the garbage that never should've been selected in the first place? Welfare for prison inmates? (Thanks for that CA!)

How about disability checks for being an alcoholic.

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