IDPA Shooters - Question?

[Dennis1209]

Shooting a VICKERS count stage a the monthly IDPA match I had a little problem and decision to make. Never ran across this type of scenario before. First, I'm shooting my Kimber Ultra CDP II, 7 round magazine and one in the pipe, 8 rounds total.CDP class.

The course: There are three Pit Bulls to shoot first to the right, tactical sequence, two shots each (6 shots). Then moving to cover, the next shots are two through the IDPA standard target hitting the steel behind it, triggering the pop-up to try and get two into it. Then behind cover, shooting three more targets, with two each to the left. You're allowed only one tactical / emergency reload. To properly shoot the course without penality, you need 16 shots. According to the rules and only one reload, I have only 15 shots, and got pentalized for an additional miss. I'm thinking moral to the story is to shoot ESP with my Glock and 10 round mags? Ever run across this type of scenario? Not knocking IDPA but does not seem well thought out for 7 round mag. CDP class?

Or, am I missing somethings????

[nb forrest]

I have never seen an IDPA stage where you were only allowed one reload and I don't think that would not be an IDPA legal stage but I am not sure. Sounds like poor stage design though.

Edited March 11, 2012 by nb forrest

[Jonnin]

the stages are supposed to be doable with a 6 shot revolver as a minimum. Someone got a little carried away with the stage, and you should protest it if you care...

[Mechanic_X]

Is the stage description online somewhere? When I do stages sometimes I forget about the cdp guys that load 7 + 1. But not letting you reload again is odd.

[DMark]

I think whoever designed the stage mis-understood the term "limited Vickers."

[RWF]

isn,t CDP up to a 8 round mag and one the pipe? i am pretty sure that is how most shoot CDP.

on mags it should no more than 2 on the belt and 1 in the gun.

or has something changed?

[Mechanic_X]

Maximum mechanical capacity of the magazine +1 in the pipe to start. 10 maximum in the mag for SSP and ESP; 8 maximum in the magazine for CDP. Fewer rounds are allowed, but you must shoot the whole match how you start.

His stage description had him run dry at the pop up, or do a tac load before. I guess the way it sounds all CDP guys ran dry. But not letting him go to a third magazine is nuts.

[Guest Nutts&Bolts]

Bogus stage. You should be able to use all the ammo you start with. Reload as necessary.

[bvarnell]

The reason you carry 2 extra mags is for sceineros like this.

What would the revolver do?, stop after 12 rounds?

[CatsEye]

That sounds like the 3rd stage at Henry County this past Saturday. It was a Vickers count stage which means you can shoot to your heart's delight. No rules in IDPA prevent you from reloading as needed in a Vickers count stage. If your SO said you couldn't reload then he told you wrong. I know it wasn't described that way to the squad I was in.

Edited March 13, 2012 by CatsEye

[RWF]

catseye, if that was the 3rd stage, he damn got a different stage brief than us also.

have not done a wheel gun in years, but i was thinking they were allowed 3 reloads on a belt? yes / no anyone

[DMark]

..... have not done a wheel gun in years, but i was thinking they were allowed 3 reloads on a belt? yes / no anyone

Yes.

Page 39 of the IDPA Rule Book.

..... Two full speedloaders/moon clips may be worn directly in front of the holster and they must be positioned as close to the holster as possible. One additional may be worn behind the centerline on either the right or left side for a total of three speedloaders/full moon clips on the belt.

..... In lieu of the use of ammunition carriers, spare magazines (2), speedloaders (3) and moon clips(3) used in a CoF may be carried in the contestant’s pockets......

Edited March 13, 2012 by DMark