It looks like one of the candidates is finally coming around.

[mav]

I ran across this article today in the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation about Newt's comments on Afghanistan.

We are not going to fix Afghanistan. It is not possible, These are people who have spent several thousand years hating foreigners. And what we have done by staying is become the new foreigners.

Thank goodness someone else besides Paul is starting to talk some sense. It is way past time to get the hell out.

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/gingrich-sees-impossible-task-1364582.html

I may try to go see him tomorrow in Dalton if things aren't too hectic.

[kieefer]

“This is a real problem. And there are some problems where you have to say, ‘You know, you are going to have to figure out how to live your own miserable life ... because you clearly don’t want to learn from me how to be unmiserable.’

I really like Newt and I wish him and Rick would team up. Too bad he stays on the attack with him.

[dralarms]

Newt/Santorum? Now that is something I might be able to support.

[Moped]

Newt is right, but he's wrong too. Here's the thing, if we pull out of Afghanistan now, then Al Quida and the Taliban are just going to move back in and sometime in the next ten years we will be attacked again. And then we'll go back there and do it all over again. So do we want to try and fix it or start all over again in later on. Maybe the better question is can we fix it and if not, what is a viable solution?

[kieefer]

Newt is right, but he's wrong too. Here's the thing, if we pull out of Afghanistan now, then Al Quida and the Taliban are just going to move back in and sometime in the next ten years we will be attacked again. And then we'll go back there and do it all over again. So do we want to try and fix it or start all over again in later on. Maybe the better question is can we fix it and if not, what is a viable solution?

I say we start over with a blank slate in the whole region, or rather a parking lot. After that we move in with oil derricks.

It's either that or move out completely and forget them. Stop sending them money that goes down the drain and build up our defenses with the savings.

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Edited February 29, 2012 by kieefer

[Oh Shoot]

... Maybe the better question is can we fix it and if not, what is a viable solution?

The solution is to merely let 'Stan simmer in its own iron age juices, just as it always has.

No reason to keep proving it is the graveyard of empires.

- OS

edit: AFAIK, Kieffer, 'Stan is not known to be particularly oil rich.

Edited February 29, 2012 by OhShoot

[Garufa]

The solution is to merely let 'Stan simmer in its own iron age juices, just as it always has.

No reason to keep proving it is the graveyard of empires.

- OS

edit: AFAIK, Kieffer, 'Stan is not known to be particularly oil rich.

We have a winner. The Soviets pulled out after roughly 8 years of occupation that just happened to coincide with the complete collapse of their system and country.

Does any one in this country understand history?

[kieefer]

The solution is to merely let 'Stan simmer in its own iron age juices, just as it always has.

No reason to keep proving it is the graveyard of empires.

- OS

edit: AFAIK, Kieffer, 'Stan is not known to be particularly oil rich.

Known for poppies I hear but the "region" does have some reserves. If not, it will be a good spot to store our nuclear waste.

[Oh Shoot]

Newt/Santorum? Now that is something I might be able to support.

O wins in a landslide.

- OS

[Moped]

O wins in a landslide.

- OS

Can't dispute this right now, but one can only hope that one of the Republican Candidates will turn it around. Sadly, that hope is slim at this point. I have more hope of capturing the Senate and keeping the House. That won't help the Supreme Court though.

[Oh Shoot]

Can't dispute this right now, but one can only hope that one of the Republican Candidates will turn it around. Sadly, that hope is slim at this point. I have more hope of capturing the Senate and keeping the House. That won't help the Supreme Court though.

Senate confirms SCOTUS candidate. Hopefully would dodge the most radical ones that O could think of if Senate goes GOP.

Sotomayor (9 of 40 GOP yea votes) or Kagan (only 5 of 41 GOP yea votes) probably wouldn't have made the cut if Senate had been GOP, since the party would likely coalesce as a bloc.

- OS

[mikegideon]

Senate confirms SCOTUS candidate. Hopefully would dodge the most radical ones that O could think of if Senate goes GOP.

Sotomayor (9 of 40 GOP yea votes) or Kagan (only 5 of 41 GOP yea votes) probably wouldn't have made the cut if Senate had been GOP, since the party would likely coalesce as a bloc.

- OS

I could live with that situation. I agree, O is most likely gonna win another term. If the senate and house are both republican, he can't do much damage. Maybe the best thing is to just lock it down for four years, and hope that a leader surfaces next time.

[mav]

The solution is to merely let 'Stan simmer in its own iron age juices, just as it always has.

No reason to keep proving it is the graveyard of empires.

- OS

Ya know, that is very well said.

All of the foreign policy adventurism is what really scares me about Santorum. He is a true believer and a moral busybody. He seems to not have a problem with sticking his (our) nose in everybody else's business, and he makes statements like he would wouldn't cut a penny from defense spending. That is one scary guy.

[Oh Shoot]

... He seems to not have a problem with sticking his (our) nose in everybody else's business, and he makes statements like he would wouldn't cut a penny from defense spending. That is one scary guy.

He's probably inspired by the Crusades. Christians vs the Muslims.

Perhaps we'd get a new Cabinet of Inquisition for us heretics.

- OS

[Guest bkelm18]

He's probably inspired by the Crusades. Christians vs the Muslims.

Perhaps we'd get a new Cabinet of Inquisition for us heretics.

- OS

Inquisition Czar. I like the ring of that.

[Guest lostpass]

I think the stand are best left ignored. It wasn't like any of the stand actually had people running the planes that's just where they trained. It is like blowing up Idaho cause of Tim McVeigh.

A santorum/gringrich ticket wouldn't just be a victory for Obama it would mean the republican party has become mostly unelectable.

[mav]

He's probably inspired by the Crusades. Christians vs the Muslims.

Perhaps we'd get a new Cabinet of Inquisition for us heretics.

- OS

I don't know where he gets it, but I know a lot of people agree with his view. Funny thing is I agree with a lot of his social conservative views, but the difference is I do not want to use the government to force or promote those views.

I will vote for Santorum if he wins (which I don't think he will), but I really wouldn't like it.

[R_Bert]

I could live with that situation. I agree, O is most likely gonna win another term. If the senate and house are both republican, he can't do much damage. Maybe the best thing is to just lock it down for four years, and hope that a leader surfaces next time.

I don't know....

With executive order and Supreme Court, BHO can do loads of damage (and already has with that strategy). Even if his policies only last 4 years of office, it would/will take decades to unravel, if ever, given the judicial system.

Republicans giving up on White House in order to "capture both house and senate" would be a horrible strategy in the long run.

The Republicans don't have to justify themselves. They just need to run against BHO like they beleive in themselves (which some days I doubt..).

[mikegideon]

I don't know....

With executive order and Supreme Court, BHO can do loads of damage (and already has with that strategy). Even if his policies only last 4 years of office, it would/will take decades to unravel, if ever, given the judicial system.

Republicans giving up on White House in order to "capture both house and senate" would be a horrible strategy in the long run.

The Republicans don't have to justify themselves. They just need to run against BHO like they beleive in themselves (which some days I doubt..).

If the Repubs control the senate, he will have a tough time screwing up the supreme court, right? Most of the things Obama did was when he owned both houses. Been pretty slow for him since the Dems lost the house.

[Guest ThePunisher]

Didn't the results of the 2010 mid-term elections translate into that the people made a big ass mistake in 2008, and that the people will not let their president declare himself a dictator, and give him 4 more years. Is their still not the anti Obama fervor as it was in 2010?

Geeze, funny how quickly people forget. Obama was a Chicago Marxist thug in 2008, and he is still a Chicago Marxist thug who has only one goal in mind, and that is to destroy America.

[Guest lostpass]

Didn't the results of the 2010 mid-term elections translate into that the people made a big ass mistake in 2008, and that the people will not let their president declare himself a dictator, and give him 4 more years. Is their still not the anti Obama fervor as it was in 2010?

Geeze, funny how quickly people forget. Obama was a Chicago Marxist thug in 2008, and he is still a Chicago Marxist thug who has only one goal in mind, and that is to destroy America.

Well you could argue that the results of the 2008 election was the same admission. People were sick of republicans and they got the dems. Then they got sick of that and voted thusly.

Marxism, hmm, I don't think that describes Obama.

[Guest ThePunisher]

Marxism, hmm, I don't think that describes Obama.

How would you describe Obama?

[mikegideon]

Liberal

[Guest ThePunisher]

Ted Kennedy, Hillary and Bill Clinton were/are liberals, and Obama is way far left of those three. Obama's cronies, Bill Ayers, Saul Alynsky and others I can't think of at the moment are Marxist. Sounds impossible that the people of this country could get bamboozled by voting for a Marxist/Socialist for POTUS, but that is exactly what you've got. Obama talks like a Marxist, his father and mother were Marxist, and he is trying to govern and trample the Constitution like a Marxist. Final result that we have as POTUS is a Marxist wanna be dictator.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well you could argue that the results of the 2008 election was the same admission. People were sick of republicans and they got the dems. Then they got sick of that and voted thusly.

Marxism, hmm, I don't think that describes Obama.

Well then what? I'd say the shoe fits well, unless you want to say communist, socialist

or Red Army Leader. He was raised by communists. Everything he preaches is

communism. Walk like, talk like?