NYCrulesU...Interesting stuff

[Murgatroy]

His open desire for revolution is one thing that never sat well with me. I'm sure he's on some govt list somewhere.

That bothered me, if he had continued his Occupy thread, I was going to call him out on that. I have a feeling he supported it just for the idea of anarchy.

[mikegideon]

His open desire for revolution is one thing that never sat well with me. I'm sure he's on some govt list somewhere.

You mean besides the one we're on?

[Guest bkelm18]

You mean besides the one we're on?

Shhhhhhhh.

[RobertNashville]

I certainly had my run-ins with him. Some of his posts made me think he wasn't operating on all cylinders...some of them I found truly dangerous.

I don't know if he is truly an anarchist or just portrayed himself that way to get a rise out of people but I don't think we need people of that mindset on the forum (there are plenty of forums out there that welcomes such opinions).

We have a Constitutional republic precisely to make armed rebellion unnecessary.

[mikegideon]

I think he was just socially impaired. I know quite a few folks from Jersey, They have their own special equivalent of Rednecks. Sorry I missed the $5000 thread (been in a work frenzy). I would have had fun with some of his posts.

[DaveTN]

I certainly had my run-ins with him. Some of his posts made me think he wasn't operating on all cylinders...some of them I found truly dangerous.

I don't know if he is truly an anarchist or just portrayed himself that way to get a rise out of people but I don't think we need people of that mindset on the forum (there are plenty of forums out there that welcomes such opinions).

We have a Constitutional republic precisely to make armed rebellion unnecessary.

We also have a lot of people that have taken an oath (either professional or personally) to protect and defend the Constitution, the American people, and the laws of the land.

Unfortunately many gun forums are filled with those that want to overthrow the government by illegal force and don’t understand that they will find themselves on the losing end of that battle.

[strickj]

Found some really interesting stuff on him on a baseball card board. He's well known on there for being [past tense?] a cop and wanting to beat his wife.

One thread was about a him talking a member into loaning him $500 to purchase a card collection to resell. He skipped out after he got the money never to be heard from again.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

I think he was just socially impaired. I know quite a few folks from Jersey, They have their own special equivalent of Rednecks. Sorry I missed the $5000 thread (been in a work frenzy). I would have had fun with some of his posts.

Were any of the NJ rednecks like this?

[mikegideon]

Nope. The DNA is in better shape, and no bible thumpin'.

[babelt]

Dang I must have missed something good in the last couple of days. I agree with everyone else, we are better off without him.

[mav]

I never had any dealings with this person, so I really can't comment on his words and/or actions. As far as him wanting to join a militia or something similiar to overthrow the government, oh well. I really don't pay attention to these people. The forums are full of people who lose brain cells with every bowel movement.

I hope of some you aren't serious when you state we are a constitutional republic. Technically we still are, but I don't know anyone who believes that anymore. Although I disagree with him on several points, I think Mark Levin has it right when says that we have dissolved our constitutional republic and have become a soft tyranny. There is really no way to argue differently when you look at recent congressional history and you can run a Google search and find case after case of congressmen and women stating that most of what they do is outside of the constitution, they don't care what the consitition says, the constitution no longer matters, etc...

As far as removing our current government by force and installing a new form of government, the founders believed it is within our right to do so to protect our political liberty. If you go back and read the constitutional debates, our founders believed that a tyrannical government was the primary evil they had to guard against. The Antifederalists argued for a Bill of Rights to include the right to bear arms, which in the view of both Federalists and Antifederalists, was the ultimate check and balance against a tyrannical government. The 2nd ammendment really has nothing to do with an individual's ability to carry a firearm on their person, nor does it have anything to do with hunting.

Personally, I do not advocate armed revolution. I think a lot that do are either anarchists or totally misguided. I do not think it is necessary because, like it or not, the government will eventually have no choice but to shrink due to the overwhelming debt. We have already hit a debt to GDP ratio of >100%, and there is no sign that it is going to slow down in the near future. Considering that almost 50% of individuals do not pay any federal income tax, the socialist's approach of taxing the so-called "rich" even further will not work. As most people know, it will more than likely shrink the economy, which will not solve the problem. Eventually nobody is going to loan us any more money because there is no way we can pay it back. Once that occurs, the government has two choices. It can either take a hard tyrannical approach to try and maintain it's power or shrink.

The whole Alex Jonesy hard tyrannical approach more than likely won't happen. The people will not stand for it. More than likely, the government will be forced to shrink, and a lot of people that have their lives subsidized by the government will be cut off. We will have massive protests, a bunch of civil disobedience, and a spike in overall crime, and that will probabaly be the extent of it. Call me a misguided optimist, but I am still not ready to right off the country yet. As evidenced from the 2010 election, more people have awakened to the fact that we are in deep s**t, fiscally speaking. The 2012 results will be a good indication if people are serious about changing direction, or if they want to keep driving closer to the cliff. Either way, the government is going to shrink, and will do so without armed revolution.

[TGO David]

TGO has some of the best moderating staff of any forum I have ever visited. *edit* Make that THE BEST. They hunt down BS like a pack of wolves but I have never read one single thing that makes them look like bullies. Can't say that about a lot of other sites. +1 for the TGO staff.

Wow. Thank you for that.

[mikegideon]

Wow. Thank you for that.

You deserved that. Good bunch of folks.

[Guest bkelm18]

Ditto. This is probably the smoothest run forum I've been on. Problems are nipped in the bud with a quickness.

[RobertNashville]

...I hope of some you aren't serious when you state we are a constitutional republic. Technically we still are, but I don't know anyone who believes that anymore. Although I disagree with him on several points, I think Mark Levin has it right when says that we have dissolved our constitutional republic and have become a soft tyranny.

Far be it from me to disagree with the Great One but at least with my comments, I was speaking more of what the founders gave us than I was what we have left today. However, I think we have enough of a republic left that we can and should and should be able to avoid the need for an armed rebellion.

I think there is still time to get back on track without the need for arms...I also think that if we don't get back on track, we won't have an armed rebellion; just a continued erosion of our freedoms until there simply are not...with "1984" arriving a few decades later than might have originally been thought

[JAB]

Wow. As others have said, I had a 'bad feeling' about the guy from the get go. I never thought, "Money scam," though. Instead, I always had the feeling he was actually an anti-gun 'mole' trying to stir things up. The first reason I got that impression was his very user name - on a gun board - extoling a cesspool that does not recognize the Second Amendment. As far as the 'extreme' things he said, I just thought he was trying to get others to voice similar opinions to support some claim that, "See - this is what those evil gun owners are like."

[Guest Lester Weevils]

Far be it from me to disagree with the Great One but at least ...

I enjoy listening to Levin, but don't let it be known you disagree to a significant extent or you won't be a "true conservative". "Get off the phone, you big dope!" (just joking)

Edited February 27, 2012 by Lester Weevils

[eapking]

Good riddance.

[gnmwilliams]

Ditto. This is probably the smoothest run forum I've been on. Problems are nipped in the bud with a quickness.

Ya gotta nip nip nip it Andy! Nip it in the bud!

[ls3_kid]

Well I missed all of this and his stupid donations threads. I posted in his $5,000 dollar thread but I didn't know it was his.

[10-Ring]

I found it odd I think it was in one of his Topix threads, he said he worked for the Sparta sheriffs department. Sparta doesn't have a sheriffs department, that would be the White County Sheriffs Department, then there is the Sparta Police Department. If he was employed by either it seems he would know the difference between the two. I would have to call BS on him working for either.

[TripleDigitRide]

I found it odd I think it was in one of his Topix threads, he said he worked for the Sparta sheriffs department. Sparta doesn't have a sheriffs department, that would be the White County Sheriffs Department, then there is the Sparta Police Department. If he was employed by either it seems he would know the difference between the two. I would have to call BS on him working for either.

Based on some of the posts by others in one of the few Topix threads where he was mentioned, he was a corrections officer at the White County jail. He was fired for numerous infractions; giving a piece of cake to an inmate was the final straw that got him canned. Someone posted a link to an article where he was pictured, in uniform, along with other White County CO's.

Edited March 5, 2012 by TripleDigitRide

[Caster]

Why do so many prison guards insist on claiming to be part of the LEO crowd? Even calling them correction officers is silly. They ain't correcting anything. I don't mean to demean any of you who do that for a living, it's a very important job and I thank you, but you're not a cop, and you don't correct anything....unless you get an opportunity to correct someone's attitude with a blunt object.

[Dolomite_supafly]

There are jurisdictions that the corrections officers go through the same academy as the road officers. They get bonded, vetted and carry a firearm just like a road officer. Also, a lot of the jurisdictions make their officers spend some time in corrections before allowing them out onto the street. They use it almost like a probationary period. After all if you can deal with the madhouse that is corrections you can probably deal with the public. And to think that corrections officers are less than road officers is a bit skewed.

Think about it, the majority of the people a road officer interacts with are not criminals while 100% of the people a corrections officers deals with are criminals.

I have worn the hat of both and I will say that the corrections part of the job was by far a more stressful job on a day to day basis than on the road. How often do you hear of a road officer getting crap thrown on them (literally)? I can say it happens very often in corrections. Now corrections officers do have the luxury of knowing that every person they interact with is a criminal. But you also have to have some very thick skin. And one of the worst parts of corrections was the politics and the highschool hes aid, she said games.

Not trying to minimize the road officers dangers because they have to deal with the unknown on every traffic stop or call. Could be the little old lady coming from church or the little old lady who just killed 1/2 dozen people. But to say that correction officers are not LE is not right.

With things getting worse and worse on the road I am glad I made the decision to not go back out on the road anymore when I worked LE again for a while. That is when I realized that corrections officers had a lot to deal with as well. Prior to my work in corrections I had a jaded view against corrections as well. It has been a long time since did either job but I recognize that it is more dangerous for both now that it was when I worked in LE.

Dolomite

[DaveTN]

Why do so many prison guards insist on claiming to be part of the LEO crowd? Even calling them correction officers is silly. They ain't correcting anything. I don't mean to demean any of you who do that for a living, it's a very important job and I thank you, but you're not a cop, and you don't correct anything....unless you get an opportunity to correct someone's attitude with a blunt object.

The term LEO is used fast and loose. I saw one guy that said he was a LEO and when asked point blank if he was a Police Officer he said he worked IT for a Police department. Another that said he was a “LEO†was arguing procedures for traffic stops; turns out he was a dispatcher.

Like DS said, some Sheriff’s departments put deputies in the jail before they go to Patrol. But they are hired as Deputies not Corrections Officers. Correction Officers aren’t cops.

I don’t have anything against Corrections Officer or Dispatchers. I’ve worked in the jail, and I’ve had to fill in for Dispatchers. Dispatching is a tough job in a busy department.

To me a “Law Enforcement Officer†is just that. But to some I guess any job in law enforcement gets that acronym.

It’s just like with those claiming they were something in the military they were not. But like most things, those that lie about it are few and far between.

It appears this guy was doing it to appear to have some credibility to help him steal people’s money.