permit holder for seven years can I carry if order of protection against me???

[Guest kwikrnu]

I know to get a permit I cannot have an order of protection against me. I just got one this morning. The ex parte one, or the one sided version. Can I still legally carry?

[Guest Steelharp]

Your permit will most likely be revoked... sorry...

[poak]

Time to call your lawyer.

[Guest db99wj]

You mentioned in another post that you do not know the person that did this. I don't understand how this will hold up or why it is against you, if you don't know the person at all. I'm a little confused.

[Guest Phantom6]

I know to get a permit I cannot have an order of protection against me. I just got one this morning. The ex parte one, or the one sided version. Can I still legally carry?

If I'm not mistaken there will be a hearing (this time in front of a judge and not a victims rights officer of the court) within a week or so to determine whether or not the OP is necessary or not. Get a lawyer and be there for the hearing if it is groundless. If it is groundless then ask the lawyer to make sure that your right to carry is protected. A lot of times things like this get over looked and you end up having to go back to court to address something that should have been addressed in the origonal action.

[Guest kwikrnu]

My question was more along the lines of I recieved the one sided order of protection. It is an order of protection none the less. Does that mean my permit is autmatically revoked now? Or does that mean I can carry until the hearing? I know that you cannot get a permit if you have an order against you.

[Guest kwikrnu]

I'll be there for the hearing and I do believe if it does not go my way it can be appealed to the circuit court. Because I am entitled to appeal I will represent myself. I don't know the woman and have not seen her in person. I was looking for an address for her business partner who I was trying to sue and needed a good address for the deputy to serve him. I knocked on her door she told me to leave and I left. She saw my gun, but not until after I had left her property so I think looking for a reason to be afraid she did the order of protection a couple of days later.

[Guest sling]

I don't know the woman and have not seen her in person.

I knocked on her door she told me to leave and I left. .

Wait, what? I thought you'd never seen her before? I'm confused.

[Guest aBRG2far]

Yep, fight it. I'm wondering how she convinced the magistrate to give her an order of protection against someone you have only met once. When my neighbor got one against her estranged husband she had to show she was afraid because of an act of violence or the treat of violence.

[Guest kwikrnu]

Wait, what? I thought you'd never seen her before? I'm confused.

She yelled through the door.

[Guest kwikrnu]

Yep, fight it. I'm wondering how she convinced the magistrate to give her an order of protection against someone you have only met once. When my neighbor got one against her estranged husband she had to show she was afraid because of an act of violence or the treat of violence.

It is simple, she lied.

She made the following statements,

1. "He demanded I open the door."

2. "He took pictures of my house."

3. "Claimed he had papers to serve me"

4. "Filed a complaint against me through metro codes"

5. "arrived at my house carrying a weapon."

6. " took his gun to my friends parents house."

7. "pretended he was a sheriffs deputy."

#'s 2,4,5 and 6 are true.

2. Took the pictures to show codes they did not display a business license.

4. Filed a complaint with codes because there were more than two people working at the house and not licensed for that.

5. I always carry a gun

6. I always carry a gun

[Guest canynracer]

I would carry until I was told specificallly NOT to carry by TDOS.

In the meatime, call a lawyer...like NOW.

[Guest kwikrnu]

I can't see paying a lawyer to get it done.

I had a valid reason to be there. A stamped letter from the county clerk stating that the address where I went was a business and one of the partners was the man who I am suing.

I have the documents from williamson county which show I am suing the man and the address I am sending the sheriff to is the one where the lady lives and has her business.

I sued their business on the 3rd and they did the order of protection on the 4th (2 days after I went to her house).

[Fallguy]

IANAL, but best I can tell your HCP is not suspended or revoked until done so by the Department of Safety at which time they have to send you notice as to why. 39-17-1352 The only exceptions seem to be sub-parts (e) & (f) for arrest for certain offenses.

Hope it all works out for you without too much hassle.

[Guest CrazyLincoln]

Best of luck to you.

It would be a sad and ironic day if you had to give up your permit for the simple reason you were exercising it.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

OK... And Im not trying to be a smartazz, just posting what everyone else is probably thinking.

1. If your firearm had been concealed she wouldnt have seen your gun. That can be a threat by intimidation if you made the wrong move while wearing the firearm.

2. When suing someone, let the Sheriffs office serve any paperwork, thats the reason they do these things to keep the plaintiffs out of the middle.

3. I bet if you try and buy a gun between now and the hearing you will be denied.

All IMHO!

[strickj]

Sounds like to me there trying to get out of the suit by filling the PO.And throwing claims you were impersonating an officer and threating with a gun because you (what I figure)open carry.

It seems that a judge would see this,but we all know how judges can be sometimes.Like the Mcdonalds suit where the woman split hot coffee on herself so I would definitely hire a lawyer and increase your lawsuit to include your lawyer fees.

Of course Im no lawyer,and I didnt stay at a Holiday Inn express last night...

[Guest nraforlife]

OK... And Im not trying to be a smartazz, just posting what everyone else is probably thinking.

1. If your firearm had been concealed she wouldnt have seen your gun. That can be a threat by intimidation if you made the wrong move while wearing the firearm.

2. When suing someone, let the Sheriffs office serve any paperwork, thats the reason they do these things to keep the plaintiffs out of the middle.

3. I bet if you try and buy a gun between now and the hearing you will be denied.

All IMHO!

If I were a betting man I would say right on all three items. Why I preach deep concealment - undershirt carry or similar garment or tuckable IWB holsters with the shirted tucked or an IWB covered by a longer style shirt. Why leave yourself open for grief if you can make your piece almost or completely invisible.

[Guest kwikrnu]

2. When suing someone, let the Sheriffs office serve any paperwork, thats the reason they do these things to keep the plaintiffs out of the middle.

When suing someone you must give them address where they can make contact with the defendant. You just can't say I want to sue so and so, find him. If you can't give them a good address the judge will not let the lawsuit go forward.

[Guest db99wj]

Also, were you doing this as an individual or through your job. The reason I ask, you mentioned,

Filed a complaint with codes because there were more than two people working at the house and not licensed for that.

. Are you with code enforcement, N'hood association, ....?

[Guest kwikrnu]

Sounds like to me there trying to get out of the suit by filling the PO.And throwing claims you were impersonating an officer and threating with a gun because you (what I figure)open carry.

It seems that a judge would see this,but we all know how judges can be sometimes.Like the Mcdonalds suit where the woman split hot coffee on herself so I would definitely hire a lawyer and increase your lawsuit to include your lawyer fees.

Of course Im no lawyer,and I didnt stay at a Holiday Inn express last night...

I don't think impersonating an officer and threatening is going to stick, but it may just as you say because judges do whatever they want.

I was wearing a white t shirt and blue jeans and a baseball hat. I was driving my white woody station wagon. What cop does that?

I am pretty sure the judge where I filed the lawsuit would not allow me to collect attorney fees for this. Maybe the judge that is hearing the case in Davidson County would allow me attorney fees.

[Guest kwikrnu]

Also, were you doing this as an individual or through your job. The reason I ask, you mentioned, . Are you with code enforcement, N'hood association, ....?

No.

I went to the ladies house on the 2nd. I reported what I thought were the codes violations in person that same day.

I decided I wanted a certified letter from the county clerk that the guy I am suing lived at the address I went to. So, on the 3rd I got that letter and they listed the person I am suing and the lady who filed the order as the owners. Since there were two people working there I thought that was another codes violation so I returned to codes. I showed them the letter and the lady who went by and inspected the property went nuts. She said I carried a gun and was dangerous and the lady had done nothing wrong, etc. I said all I wanted was to verify if they had violated any city ordinance. Her boss said they would review the information and that it appeared it was a violation.

[Guest db99wj]

Not trying to be a smartazz, just being nosey, but why are you trying to get them on code violations? Are you just an individual on a mission because you were wronged by the guy or what?

I am just trying to understand the whole situation.

[Guest kwikrnu]

In a word yes.

[Guest db99wj]

Well ok. The reason for my questioning, is that if you were doing this through your job, you're employer would need to step in. Sounds like you got good documentation on why you did what you did, hopefully you will get a common sense judge and you will come out ok. Good luck.