carry at government building not posted asked to leave hypothetical

[Guest kwikrnu]

So, as a permit holer I carry my handgun into the Brentwood police station headquarters which is not posted. If they tell me to leave or leave and remove my handgun before entering the premisis is that legal? I know that a business or individual can tell you to leave and if you don't it is trespassing. So, what about a public government building?

[Guest sling]

You cannot carry in any government buildings...

I'll find the link to support it here in a sec.

[Marswolf]

You cannot carry in any government buildings...

I'll find the link to support it here in a sec.

Good luck finding that, because you are wrong.

Why does this misinformation keep coming up?

[Guest sling]

I just realized that. Everyone is wrong at some point in time. Even you.

Anyways, to the topic.

You can carry in government buildings so long as the proper signs are not posted. See: http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USOffLimitsN-W.pdf

And scroll to the Tennessee section.

I, personally, wouldnt. Theres always going to be someone there to argue with you about it.

Edited April 18, 2008 by sling

[Guest dotsun]

Theres always going to be someone there to argue with you about it.

Not if they don't know you have it.

[mac12]

Why don't you just ask them if you can carry in the police station? Okay, okay, I was joking. :rolleyes:

[Guest nosnos]

All I ask is that those who wonder about where they can carry DO NOT ask management of said place if they allow it. Carry laws in TN seem straight ahead. There are plenty of resources to learn the laws.

I just can't stand it when people ASK other people if they allow carry. That seems like the fastest way to a legally posted no firearm zone.

[Guest canynracer]

How did they know you were armed?

carry CONCEALED.....do your business and leave, no hassles...

[Fallguy]

So, as a permit holer I carry my handgun into the Brentwood police station headquarters which is not posted. If they tell me to leave or leave and remove my handgun before entering the premisis is that legal? I know that a business or individual can tell you to leave and if you don't it is trespassing. So, what about a public government building?

AFAIK there is no distinction in the code for publicly owned or privately owned buildings when it comes to you being asked to leave or disarm. So while it is legal for you to enter IMO I would say it is legal for them to tell you to leave or disarm.

You cannot carry in any government buildings...

I'll find the link to support it here in a sec.

Good luck finding that, because you are wrong.

Why does this misinformation keep coming up?

I agree Mars!! MY GOD!!!! How does this keep getting put out there?! I swear sometimes I want to become a permit instructor just to correct all the misinformation about the laws on carry.

[Guest kwikrnu]

AFAIK there is no distinction in the code for publicly owned or privately owned buildings when it comes to you being asked to leave or disarm. So while it is legal for you to enter IMO I would say it is legal for them to tell you to leave or disarm.

I wasn't sure and that makes sense. Thanks.

[molonlabetn]

Regardless of where you are (unless on your own property), if you are asked to leave by the owner or representative of the property, it is legal and you should do so. But, Government buildings are required to abide by the same posting requirement as any other business, and are not de-facto no-carry zones.

[Guest nraforlife]

Carry deep concealed - like in a 5.11 style undershirt and nobody knows you are carrying. Tuckable holsters still have a hook visible to the real discerning eye unless you use velcro attachments.

[Marswolf]

I just realized that. Everyone is wrong at some point in time. Even you.

No doubt about that.

I've been wrong several times on this and other boards. I always find the best way to handle that is to fess up. It really confounds your enemies.

[Guest GregRN]

As long as you are not on school grounds or judicial buildings...

No sign = carry concealed and keep your mouth shut.

Some idiot already got the library in Jackson posted (or so I read).

[Marswolf]

As long as you are not on school grounds or judicial buildings...

No sign = carry concealed and keep your mouth shut.

Some idiot already got the library in Jackson posted (or so I read).

You can be in "judicial buildings" as long as they are not posted. You can not be in a courtroom while judicial proceedings are in progress.

[Guest kwikrnu]

You can be in "judicial buildings" as long as they are not posted. You can not be in a courtroom while judicial proceedings are in progress.

Most judicial buildings I have been in have metal detectors. For example I think the Williamson County Court House does not have any signs(I could be wrong because I have never carried a gun there and paid attention), but they do have a big metal detector and x ray machine. I wonder what would happen if you pulled out your gun and placed it in the tray or left it in your bag and they x rayed it? The deputies would probably throw you up against the wall and worry about signs another day.

[Guest kwikrnu]

As long as you are not on school grounds or judicial buildings...

No sign = carry concealed and keep your mouth shut.

Some idiot already got the library in Jackson posted (or so I read).

You can carry on school grounds in certain circumstances.

Open carry is legal in Tennessee.

The idiot you speak of is probably just a law abiding citizen who wanted to make sure he could carry there. Most people with carry permits do not belong to websites and most likely are not reading code to figure out where they can and can't go. The laws are constantly changing and people get confused. If you want to place blame put it on the administrator of the library or your representatives who decided that it was the property owners right to post.

[Guest TNDixieGirl]

Most people with carry permits do not belong to websites and most likely are not reading code to figure out where they can and can't go. The laws are constantly changing and people get confused. If you want to place blame put it on the administrator of the library or your representatives who decided that it was the property owners right to post.

If you're going to take the responsibility to carry a gun, you should also take the responsibility to know the gun laws and keep up with their changes. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I fully believe in a property owner's right to post. If I didn't want folks carrying on my property, you bet I'd want the right to post that.

[shaftbass]

Theres always going to be someone there to argue with you about it.

You must have missed some of Voldemort's other threads

[Guest kwikrnu]

If you're going to take the responsibility to carry a gun, you should also take the responsibility to know the gun laws and keep up with their changes. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Which is most likely why the "idiot" asked.

I fully believe in a property owner's right to post. If I didn't want folks carrying on my property, you bet I'd want the right to post that.

That is cool I'm still not decided on private property, but this was at the library which is public property.

[Mike.357]

So, as a permit holer I carry my handgun into the Brentwood police station headquarters which is not posted. If they tell me to leave or leave and remove my handgun before entering the premisis is that legal?

I smell another attempt at a lawsuit here

[Guest GregRN]

Most judicial buildings I have been in have metal detectors.

The metal detectors are the reason I said it the way I did. You have to be tricky to get in past a metal detector without setting it off (legal or not) and then you are drawing attention. And as far as I read the law, school grounds are always off limits. I would like to see proof otherwise.

And yes, I think you are an idiot if you ask a property manager of a public building if carry is allowed. The most likely response will be a posted sign, even if it takes them a while to do the research.

[Guest nj.piney]

blount county court house used to be posted with a circle with a gun in it and a slash. i respected the sign . they have since removed the sign and now are not posted. when i pay my taxes or go to m.v. registration i carry now.

[Fallguy]

As long as you are not on school grounds or judicial buildings...

No sign = carry concealed and keep your mouth shut.

Some idiot already got the library in Jackson posted (or so I read).

Don't forget places that serve alcohol for onsite consumption and public parks, civic centers etc....

This sign at the library in Jackson has been removed although it is still policy of the library to no allow carry. So as others have said...no sign/concealed carry will simply get you asked to leave if made not a violation of the law.

Right or wrong...the law in TN allows both privately owned and publicly owned buildings and property to be posted.

[Guest tadams]

Don't forget places that serve alcohol for onsite consumption and public parks, civic centers etc....

Honestly it is, in fact, that "etc..." part that can get a little hairy when dealing with the situation on a real world basis.