Third Party Candidate??

[Marswolf]

Does that include me, I'm Super? At least that what it says on my underwear.

I thought you had to be Mormon to have special underwear.

[Guest db99wj]

Ron Paul seems to be the only 3rd party that is really known publically. Nader, I heard he was running, that was about it.

[memphismason]

I thought you had to be Mormon to have special underwear.

Joseph Smith with a Mason.

[Marswolf]

Ron Paul is a freakin'' nut. That's why he died out quickly.

Hey, the truth sometimes hurts.

[Marswolf]

Joseph Smith with a Mason.

I stand corrected. You may wear the special underwear.

[Mike.357]

I didn't know what person could bring the most fight as a third party candidate, and so I asked what everyone thought, and not one answer.

thats a bunch of crap. I answered your freakin question. How am I supposed to name a candidate when I firmly believe having a third party candidate is a waste of time and effort and will only hurt the country.

you all go vote for the moonbat Ron Paul. What did he garner by way of a vote total in the primaries?

you know I knew a bunch of masons years ago, I was not impressed.

You may be be different and special, most people I have met in life that are special do not need to toot their horn to say so.

[The Rabbi]

There is more to being a candidate than merely having acceptable views. Look at Fred Thompson. I loved him and his views but in the end he was a lightweight.

A dream candidate? Antonin Scalia. Good luck as he's too smart for that.

[Guest Roscoe]

Here's an answer to the original question: http://www.alankeyes.com/

If you're a gun owner, you probably already know him. If you don't, you should. If you are a gun owner, and you think there is value in a McCain vote, just wait for the limp "support" of Heller you'll see this summer after the opinion comes down. The GOP is dead.

[saintsfanbrian]

Fred Thompson didn't really want to be president but too many people were pressuring him to run so he did. When he didn't garner enough support he dropped out. Had he announced from the Get Go he would be the Republican Nominee. He didn't want it, that's why he stalled announcing his run.

[The Rabbi]

Here's an answer to the original question: http://www.alankeyes.com/

If you're a gun owner, you probably already know him. If you don't, you should. If you are a gun owner, and you think there is value in a McCain vote, just wait for the limp "support" of Heller you'll see this summer after the opinion comes down. The GOP is dead.

Alan Keyes already lost to Obama once. He is a whacko candidate. I like a lot of what he says but there is no way he is close to viable.

[Guest jackdog]

At this point I cannot and will not vote for any of the current choices, Have yet to determine if I will just abstain from voting or vote 3rd party.

[Guest Roscoe]

Alan Keyes already lost to Obama once. He is a whacko candidate. I like a lot of what he says but there is no way he is close to viable.

Keyes could run against Obama 100 times for the senate in Illinois and he'd lose 101 times. That is, most emphatically, not the point.

I think I wasn't clear in saying how my earlier post was in response to the original question. I understand the question to be "So who does everybody think would tally up the most votes for a third party? and maybe why?" Keyes is likely to be nominated as candidate for the Constitution Party in about a week, having severed ties with the Artist Formerly Known As The Republican Party 2 days ago.

As I understand it, there are a number of "third parties" who will be nominating candidates, including the Constitution Party, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, the New American Independent Party, the Party for Socialism and Liberation, the Prohibition Party, the Socialist Party USA, and the Socialist Workers Party.

Ralph Nader will surface as an independent this time around, and the Libertarian Party is in a bigger mess than usual, if that is possible. There's a fighting chance that Cynthia McKinney will be the candidate of the Green Party (not kidding). The rest are just lost balls in tall weeds.

I'm not a Constitution Party guy myself, as they are quite a bit too churchie for my taste. I'm not a fan of Keyes' theocratic leanings, but he is as dependable a 2d A guy that there is. Not sure what you mean by saying he's "wacko," don't understand that.

As much as I detest the idea of "picking a winner" and winding up pulling it for McCain, in the end I am a single issue voter: What kind of Supreme Court justices will the guy (gal) appoint? This year, that is the biggest no-brainer in the history of the republic. Not only would the appointments of Billary or BHO be the worst imaginable in our history, they might wind up trying to pack the court and get congress to push it out to about 15 justices, FDR-style. The only reason I have to vote for McCain is to insure that doesn't happen, but that's enough of a reason.

[memphismason]

thats a bunch of crap. I answered your freakin question. How am I supposed to name a candidate when I firmly believe having a third party candidate is a waste of time and effort and will only hurt the country.

you all go vote for the moonbat Ron Paul. What did he garner by way of a vote total in the primaries?

you know I knew a bunch of masons years ago, I was not impressed.

You may be be different and special, most people I have met in life that are special do not need to toot their horn to say so.

I am sorry Mike, I was looking for a name. Even if you think that having a third party is silly, there must be someone in your mind that you think could come in third behind the other two. That was all I was asking.

I am sorry you have known some people who did not impress you. I guess it is true, one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch.

As far as me tooting my own horn, I had to to see if it could still be tooted. After being drug through the mud, I wasn't for sure it would still blow. But it looks like I still have enough hot air left in me.

I like this board, everyone wears their feelings on their sleeves. This is great.

Thanks for your firey comments. I like to know that what I say matters to some people.

[Guest 270win]

I look at a third party candidate as a way of throwing away your vote. I am not a fan of McCain, but he will not mess us up on Supreme Court judges like Slick Clinton did. Presidents are only for four or eight years, but the judges they appoint can be there forever and make/change laws for better or worse with their court rulings.

[strickj]

One does not throw there vote away on a third party.The third party is intended to get votes for x candidate,when one would never vote for x.Its as simple as that.His views may be good,he may even be likable,but would never be electable.

I dont particularly like our choices for president,but would vote for the lesser of the evils,and would not vote third party simply because in the end I'm not looking to make statement,Im looking to elect a president.

The thought may be in the right place,but its not wise when something like a assault weapons ban is in the future.

And here I thought the flame war,panties in a wad Glock/XD safety thread was bad

[Mike.357]

I like to know that what I say matters to some people.

were glad to have to here.

[Guest canynracer]

if voting third party was there to make a statement, they would have a "none of the above"

to which, I would vote...

but now, well, I guess I am going to vote for the one I dont like the least, and that is McCain

yep, and I dont know CRAP about politics, but I know I dont want Hillary, or Obama telling me when to mow my yard, and how much toilet paper I can use....

[Guest Phantom6]

Ron Paul is a freakin'' nut. That's why he died out quickly.

Hey, the truth sometimes hurts.

With all the fruits and nuts that have been supporting Ron Paul I sure wouldn't be telling anyone that I voted for him in the primaries or would vote for him in the general election as a third party candidate.

I don't remember who said it earlier but if you are voting 3rd party then you are voting democratic in this race. As aggrivated as I am with some of McCain's voting record IMHO he is still heads and shoulders over either of the dems that are still slugging it out against each other. It would be foolish to say this time next year "hell, I didn't vote for that S.O.B. (or perhaps , I voted for Nader or even Paul." Folks considering "sending a message" by voting 3rd party should choose their battles more carefully. It's a good idea but NOT NOW.

So, in answer to the question at hand, in my mind there is no strong third party candidate. There is only a scattering of names that are so far out on the fringe that they make absolutely no sense in relation to this country's needs.

[Mike.357]

I don't remember who said it earlier but if you are voting 3rd party then you are voting democratic in this race. As aggrivated as I am with some of McCain's voting record IMHO he is still heads and shoulders over either of the dems that are still slugging it out against each other. It would be foolish to say this time next year "hell, I didn't vote for that S.O.B. (or perhaps , I voted for Nader or even Paul." Folks considering "sending a message" by voting 3rd party should choose their battles more carefully. It's a good idea but NOT NOW.

Thank you! Best post on the thread.

[poak]

Then vote for Hillary or Obama....they cant stop talking about change.

Sorry. HAD to.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/black_guy_asks_nation_for_change

[strickj]

Well sadly the populous wants to see what Bush as done corrected.And its also sad that the populous has no frickin idea how to do this,well neither does Oboma.but he as embedded the change idea in peoples mind without really giving a good explanation of how to do so.People want change,and hes says change.

To me its kinda like interviewing doctors,listening to what they can do for you,and choosing the best doctor you can find,but then you find one that simply says"heal" so you say"wow,he really knows what hes doing,your hired"

Doesn't really make since to me,but what do I know,he said "change"

[molonlabetn]

Alan Keyes...

[Marswolf]

Alan Keyes exits GOP!

April 16, 2008

HAZLETON, Penn. — On Tuesday, former Republican presidential candidate Alan Keyes officially announced his split with the Republican Party, at a press conference held in Hazleton, PA.

Saying the Republican Party "has become a dark and confusing place," and "there are clear signs that our leaders no longer have an allegiance to the sovereign people of the United States," Keyes added that he is considering running for president on the Constitution Party ticket in the 2008 general election.

The city of Hazleton made news for taking a firm stand against illegal immigration when it passed the Illegal Immigration Relief Act in 2006.

A life-long Republican, Keyes was a diplomat in the Reagan administration who served as Assistant Secretary of State for International Organizations, Ambassador to the United Nations Economic and Social Council, and staff member of the National Security Council.

Jason Maness

[saintsfanbrian]

Glad to see him drop out. Don't know who the Constitution Party is putting up but that is a loser also. I would love to vote third party, but right now, with the election hanging in the balance I do not feel like taking a vote away from the republican party that is more in line with my beliefs than the democratic party.

[Marswolf]

Uh...who is he and who cares?