Romney on Guns: In His Own Words

[FJCrusing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TYWDWRmz-_o

Thoughts?

[Lumber_Jack]

Pot calling the kettle black there, Newt.

[Troutburger]

Truly feel that if Newt, Mitt and BHO are the brightest and the best we have to lead the free world. We're screwed anyway....

[FJCrusing]

Agreed. I've often pondered "Is this the best that we really have".

[Guest bkelm18]

Agreed. I've often pondered "Is this the best that we really have".

Of course not. The best we really have are too smart to run for political office, and if they did, they'd never win.

[hipower]

I, for one, agree. The truly intelligent people today seem to have gotten so disgusted with the whole political process that they refuse to become involved. And those that do want to involve themselves are finding that they are not connected with the power structure and have very little possibility of getting elected to a position cable of real change.

Until, and unless, a grassroots movement solidifies around a single issue or candidate that is so polarizing as to garner support from all spectrums of people and politics, I fear the worst for us.

[Guest bkelm18]

Until, and unless, a grassroots movement solidifies around a single issue or candidate that is so polarizing as to garner support from all spectrums of people and politics, I fear the worst for us.

That's the key right there. A good candidate that has truly pure intentions of getting this country on the right track again will never appeal to all sectors. Too many people have their own self interests and all too often those interests contradict the interests of what needs to be done. The smart ones realize this and wouldn't waste their time trying to get elected president.

[Just2Honor]

Agree that we are not looking good if these are the best we have. Mitt is a "closet liberal". Newt has a lot of baggage that the Dems will use against him (marriage infidelity, multiple divorses, lobbyist, House record with their banking system, etc) . Ron Paul may be what is needed but too libertarian for too many voters. Rick S is too unknown by too many voters. Besides too many of the voters have a vested interest in keeping Obama and the give-aways and too many others don't have a clue about what is going on/won't learn and vote with their emotions, not brains.

[Guest bkelm18]

I know it's not a popular opinion, but Romney is really the only chance there is of getting Obama out of office. He's liberal enough to leech away some of Obama's supporters but still somewhat conservative enough for conservatives to be able to still vote for him while pinching their noses. The next 4 yrs are going to be sh*t no matter who wins.

[hipower]

I know it's not a popular opinion, but Romney is really the only chance there is of getting Obama out of office. He's liberal enough to leech away some of Obama's supporters but still somewhat conservative enough for conservatives to be able to still vote for him while pinching their noses. The next 4 yrs are going to be sh*t no matter who wins.

Sadly, I agree with this. My wife and I have talked about this, and although we are now down to the latest in a seemingly endless series of "the best of the worst choices' secenerio again; Romney may just be exactly that. The one with the best possible chance.

[Glock30]

I think that Romney will get more votes as an anti-Obama candidate, as opposed to outright pro-Romney support. I'm afraid we're going to see the same type of phenomena that got Bush re-elected: Kerry was an anti-Bush as opposed to the "best" the Democrats had to offer.

Don't get me wrong, I voted for Bush in '04. What I'm getting at is that Kerry wasn't terribly exciting to the Democratic base and didn't drive people to go vote. Romney has the potential to do the same to the Republican vote.

Edited February 7, 2012 by Glock30

[daddyo]

Romney has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that when it comes to the 2A, he has his head firmly up his derriere.

[JPR1959]

I've watched enough of the debates, and seen enough of the ads to know that Romney is another McCain. If he gets the Republican nomination, we're doomed. I'm tired of the Republican party nominating moderates. I want a true conservative for president and I want a conservative Congress. The Republicans have held both only one time in the past 50+ years. Liberalism had a major role in our nation's current fiscal crisis. I'm for Gingrich or Santorum.

[kieefer]

Ron Paul has the best NRA rating and he's followed by Santorum.

Romoney learned his flip-flopping skills from John Kerry, he'll also tell you anything to get elected.

[Dolomite_supafly]

If you look at all the views Romney has it screams democrat. He is anti gun, he contributed to Planned Parenthood, he is pro choice and wants mandated healthcare. Obama-care is nothing more than Romney-care on steroids. Jimmy Carter's endorsement of him is very telling as to where Romney sits.

Romney is a democrat but people forget this just because he has a ® next to his name. I really wish there wasn't a ® or (D) next to candidates names on the ballot. That way people would vote according to their views and not according to their party line.

Dolomite

[seez52]

Until the republican establishment gets the message that we're not going to put up with a Romy/McCain/Dole type of candidate we're screwed. And frankly, while I'm holding my nose I can just as easily vote republican or democrat because at this pace there's no difference. As a matter of fact, why would I want to vote for a repub. when someone like Romy is literally going to get blamed for every bad thing that happens because there's no way he can make a difference at this point. It only sets us up for Hillery or Cuomo or some other democrat in 2016. Put the big O back in and grease the skids for some real change, the right change in 2016. And please don't buy into the "anybody but Obama" shtick, we've been duped with that too many times before.

[Oh Shoot]

Until the republican establishment gets the message that we're not going to put up with a Romy/McCain/Dole type of candidate we're screwed. And frankly, while I'm holding my nose I can just as easily vote republican or democrat because at this pace there's no difference. As a matter of fact, why would I want to vote for a repub. when someone like Romy is literally going to get blamed for every bad thing that happens because there's no way he can make a difference at this point. It only sets us up for Hillery or Cuomo or some other democrat in 2016. Put the big O back in and grease the skids for some real change, the right change in 2016. And please don't buy into the "anybody but Obama" shtick, we've been duped with that too many times before.

One flaw with the plan. You have to live with the 2-4 Supreme Court justices that O puts in. For the next 25 years.

They'll be bad enough regardless, but if GOP doesn't get the senate, they'll be so far left you'll need binos just to see 'em.

- OS

Edited February 8, 2012 by OhShoot

[kieefer]

One flaw with the plan. You have to live with the 2-4 Supreme Court justices that O puts in. For the next 25 years.

They'll be bad enough regardless, but if GOP doesn't get the senate, they'll be so far left you'll need binos just to see 'em.

- OS

So true and reason enough to suck-it up once again.

http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/16682368/obama-could-alter-stance-of-federal-appeals-courts

[hornett22]

So voting for someone who is just like Obama to get rid of Obama is our best option?

And Ron Paul Is a scary?

uh,ok.

[tnhawk]

Ron Paul has the best NRA rating and he's followed by Santorum.

Romoney learned his flip-flopping skills from John Kerry, he'll also tell you anything to get elected.

That's true of every politician during the last few elections.

[DaveTN]

Thoughts?

Don’t take you eye off the ball in this Presidential election.

This election is about the economy and jobs. If our economy fails; gun legislation, abortion, etc., won’t matter.

Your state legislators are going to be making the gun laws that impact you; not the President.

The sad part is that Obama is the most defeatable President I think I have seen in my lifetime and the Republican Party can’t come up with anyone that can beat him. Those that would be good at it; don’t want the job. Unless something happens between now and August I’m afraid it’s four more years of Obama.

I also think the general public supports gun control. So when they hear “more stringent background checks†or banning “Weapons of unusual lethalityâ€; they either don’t get upset, or they just don’t care because there are more pressing issues.

My vote this election will go to whoever I think will help to bring our economy around and help bring jobs and manufacturing back to this country. The President will have far more impact on that than he will on my gun rights.

[RobertNashville]

So voting for someone who is just like Obama to get rid of Obama is our best option?

And Ron Paul Is a scary?

uh,ok.

Yes, RP is scary.

Just like Obama...no way in hell.

You could take the absolute worst traits/positions of all four remaining candidates, mold those worst traits into one candidate, multiply by 1000 and the what you get would still be 1,000% better than Obummer on even on Obummer's best (i.e. least objectionable to us) day.

We need to understand; whoever is the next president will very likely get to appoint two to four new SC Justices (not to mention hundreds or thousand of lower court justices...do you REALLY want Obummer making those nominations?

Heller and McDonald laid a half-way decent foundation of solidifying our second amendment rights but turn the SC to a liberal one and you can kiss our rights goodby.

Elections matter, not just for Pres but for Congress as well...if you actually value your rights and if you want to leave a decent country to your children then you don't have the luxury of sitting this one out just because whoever is running isn't the best that could have been offered. Just my $0.02 anyway.

Edited February 12, 2012 by RobertNashville

[daddyo]

Won't vote for Romney. Nope.

[Guest ThePunisher]

If anyone does not understand by now what the liberal democratic ideology is, and that the Dems are absolutely out to change America into a country like the European Marxist/Socialist, then they will never be convinced why they should vote republican. There have been enough R candidates that distinguish themselves from each other, and each one is definitely more qualified to be POTUS than what is in the WH now. Any member on this forum would be better than BHO. It is up to the people to understand what each candidate stands for, and pick one that they think will best lead our country. BHO is not leading our country, he is destroying our country, and if people don't understand that by now, then America is doomed to be a Marxist/ Socialist country.

Let it be understood that if BHO gets re-elected, those that vote for him will be absolutely complicit in destroying America as we have always known it. Now, there are 4 qualified R candidates still standing to choose from, and it is up to the people to make the best choice from those 4 candidates. If you don't like any of them as a preference over BHO, then I suspect that you are a die hard democrat anyway, and that you also hate America just like BHO. None of the candidates are perfect, but they all are perfect compared to BHO.

Polls show that America is right center of the political spectrum, but on the the social issues they seem to be more moderate than conservative. This is what seems to keep people from selecting a conservative candidate and why Romney is leading. I'm not sure a conservative candidate will ever be elected POTUS again, and that is a shame because most conservatives are more entrenched in there beliefs and don't flip flop as much as moderates. There is still plenty of time to vote for someone other than Romney, but the clock is ticking down.

[plank white]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lsfsk6BQKY Edited February 16, 2012 by plank white