357lcr or p238?????

[mudstud]

i have made my mind up that i want both of these but only

can bring one home now. Have seen the lcr for 553 and the p238 for

580 with a sig lazerguard already on it both are new.

[kieefer]

Wow, I thought the LCR was less expensive than that.

Personally I'd go with the P238.

[mudstud]

ohh crap 453 i am sorry 501 out the door

[Guest rbl]

lcr .357

[I_Like_Pie]

cdnn has them for $398 + $14 shipping to your FFL.

[Guest dubaholic2]

apples or beef stroganoff? p238 for me

[True Grit]

I have both. The P238 is more fun to shoot but the 357 is better for self defense. I keep the sig in my pocket and LCR on my belt.

[Patton]

Well do you want to squeeze a trigger to shoot or cock it first?

[kieefer]

Well do you want to squeeze a trigger to shoot or cock it first?

Good point. Maybe the better question is, do you mind carrying cocked and locked? If so the revolver may be the best choice.

[zybysco]

I really like my 357 lcr. And it is cheaper to shoot. I have no regrets about it.

[Erik88]

LCR hands down but both are a good choice. A more accurate match up would be the LCP and p238..

Also, if you are paying more than $400 for the LCR you are paying too much.

[Patton]

I have shot a 238 and I was impressed. However, I dont see how it has been so popular. It's easy to carry and it's excellent craftsmanship but it kind of reminds me of a Bonds Arm derringer in that its pretty but requires a lot to safely carry and then deploy. My only complaint on a LCR is I short stroke the trigger, and if your used to trigger reset you will to.

[tercel89]

I have shot a 238 and I was impressed. However, I dont see how it has been so popular. It's easy to carry and it's excellent craftsmanship but it kind of reminds me of a Bonds Arm derringer in that its pretty but requires a lot to safely carry and then deploy. My only complaint on a LCR is I short stroke the trigger, and if your used to trigger reset you will to.

Say that again in more detail . I like my Glock reset and I am not sure what you are talking about . I am presently looking at the Ruger LCR . Any information is appreciated .

[daddyo]

LCR, simply because of caliber.

[Jonnin]

Say that again in more detail . I like my Glock reset and I am not sure what you are talking about . I am presently looking at the Ruger LCR . Any information is appreciated .

You have to release the 1911 style safety to use the sig 238. That is all, and it is just a touch of the thumb to do this, so it is not a big deal and you can easily train to have the safety off before the gun is even pointed at your target. The only guns that are "easier" to deploy than a 1911 are no-safety long trigger guns, which are harder to deploy because they have long, and often heavy, triggers. (I consider the glock trigger to be long as well, though 85% of a glock trigger pull does nothing but pull on a do-nothing spring load, the extra travel is there for "safety").

The LCR is a DAO, which means it the trigger lifts the hammer back some certain amount and then it falls to strike the firing pin. Unlike a glock, which is "striker fired" (whatever the heck that means), the trigger must lift that hammer each time far enough to strike with force. It is, therefore, not possible to short reset/rapid fire this type of gun, you must fully release the trigger to "nearly" the position that the trigger stays in when your hand is off of it. The glock, on the other hand, uses the semi auto slide and recoil action to internally do part of the work, so your short trigger just release a pre-cocked spring loaded thingy, it does not have to actually pull the spring, so a small travel distance is possible, which allows for their famous short reset triggers which, once the shooter has memorized it, allows rapid fire.

Edited January 17, 2012 by Jonnin

[Jonnin]

Well do you want to squeeze a trigger to shoot or cock it first?

I am confused. Are you cocking your 1911 style guns manually before shooting? That would make the style not the best choice for CCW --- either make friends with the carry design, or choose another style. The LCR cannot be cocked, of course. It is really a question of safety off, then shoot rapidly with a light, easy to use trigger or shoot a bigger gun slowly by pumping the excessively heavy and extremely long pull of the revolver. I have weak hands and can personally empty 2 mags from the sig before I can empty one cylinder of the revolver due to that long trigger, however someone with strong hands and wrists can probably equalize the two choices.

[JReedEsq]

Say that again in more detail . I like my Glock reset and I am not sure what you are talking about . I am presently looking at the Ruger LCR . Any information is appreciated .

I like the LCR too but 95% of my practice time is with a Glock. As a result I've developed the habit of "riding the reset" or letting my trigger finger go out long enough to feel the reset and then shooting again. As much as I like the look of revolvers, I'd personally hesitate to carry one because the last few times I shot one at the range I "short stroked" the trigger more than once, by trying to shoot when I hadn't let the trigger out long enough to reset. Nothing against revolvers, I'd like to own a few someday. Personally though, I'm a "system" guy. My carry guns usually are a Glock in the summer and a bigger Glock in the winter. If I wanted to carry a revolver, I'd probably carry an LCR in the summer and a 586 for the winter and HD purposes. I'm sure there are lots of folks on TGO that have been shooting long enough and often enough to maintain proficiency with different systems.... For instance they could carry a 1911, one day, a striker fired (Glock, M&P etc...) the next and a revolver the next and shoot them all well... I've only been shooting a few years though and I'm sticking with one system for now. It may seem like I'm rambling but here's my point:

The two guns compared by the OP are different carry systems, which is the best??? Which ever one works more like the OPs other guns. If you shoot a 1911 then the Sig is the obvious choice. If you've had a lot of trigger time on revolvers than I'd definitely pick the LCR... Just a long way of saying the best gun for any individual is the one they shoot the best...

[Guest Catfish36]

I can't speak for the LCR...but I absolutly LOVE my new p238. That sig is a fun shooter..more than just a good carry pocket pistol.

[ttocswob]

I vote .357 LCR - in fact I took mine for a walk this morning.

[SonnyCrockett]

P238 is nice but Im a revolver fan for CCW and mines gotta be metal

S&W Airweight gets the nodd

[mudstud]

i carry a sig p250 which is DAO so i think the lcr would be closer

to what i am use to.But i haved owned 1911's also. i like the feel

of both guns.I want the lcr where have you seen them under 400 i am

in Nashville and 450 has been the lowest i seen.

[kieefer]

I've seen them less at Guns Shows. I would call around to our local shops and get an OTD price and go from there. Sure you could find a used one around by now.

[BigJim]

I would go LCR.

[glowdotGlock]

I vote the lcr. I don't have any experience with the p238 but I do own and occasionally carry the .357 lcr. I've shot it with many types of .357 and .38 special. The factory grip takes up a suprising amount of the recoil. Nice solid gun with smooth, smooth da trigger. I love mine.

[Guest carter]

Yea shop around get what our heart desires ... I picked up an all black p238 from gunbroker for 400 and I've seen the lcr fOr much cheaper