1911 in 357 Mag

[subsonic]

This looks interesting:

Coonan Arms Classic .357 Magnum 1911 Pistol

[Mykltn]

Sacrilege! 1911's should be in .45acp. JMB would be rolling over in his grave!

[hipower]

OK, I'll be the first here to droll over it and say "I Want One!" Had the opportunity to shoot the orginal Coonan years ago and loved it. Couldn't afford one then. Now that it's in the price range of a good 1911...I believe I'll be in the market for one.

[JeffsSig]

Sacrilege! 1911's should be in .45acp. JMB would be rolling over in his grave!

I would think JMB would be proud that the 1911 has evolved. Plenty of plain Jane 1911s out there. I welcome new choices.

[Patton]

I dont really see the point as 357 and 45 ballisticly are about equal.

[thundersnow]

I dont really see the point as 357 and 45 ballisticly are about equal.

Yeah but it would be a good conversation piece...

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[mikegideon]

Sacrilege! 1911's should be in .45acp. JMB would be rolling over in his grave!

I thought JMB wanted the 1911 to be in 9mm.

[Smith]

I thought JMB wanted the 1911 to be in 9mm.

Haha, so true. He actually was not thrilled with what the government made him do to the 1911. His masterpiece was the Hi-Power in 9mm.

[Patton]

He also had to add the grip safety I once heard to please the Government.

[et45]

Haha, so true. He actually was not thrilled with what the government made him do to the 1911. His masterpiece was the Hi-Power in 9mm.

Don't have the pics to post but the prototype Hi-Power he was working on when he died looks nothing like what FN eventually manufactured.

[Guest Revelator]

Anything to get people to buy something new. Did anyone catch the 1911 bit on Last Man Standing last night?

[peejman]

Not new at all. Coonan has been making these for nearly 30 years. Coonan - Company News

[timcalhoun]

Yep been around a long time. 38 special too.

I just hate the idea of using a rimmed case in a magazine. 38 super being semi-rimmed can be tricky enough and is why 38 super comp and 38 TJ (Todd Jarrett) was created.

[Jonnin]

The desert eagle 357 from IMI is a single action 1911ish design. They are much different internally of course, but frame style and trigger pull and overall shooting feel are similar. Come to think of it, if it has the bushing and grip safety, the 1911 may be a step backwards (/duck).

I would buy it, though, if I could hold one and it passed the pick-up test. I think I would by a 9mm 1911 first, and if this new one were a double stack 44 it would very, very hard for me to pass up.

I have never had any trouble with rimmed cases in an auto, 22s work find, my 44 works fine, those I have shot a LOT and have tried the 50 and 357 as well but do not own those. I know the rim makes it a challenge to design, but the pistols I have tried all do pretty well. Oh and 30-06 is rimmed, shot that in a semi as well as a couple of other rifle rounds.

Edited January 11, 2012 by Jonnin

[Guest ochretoe]

Being a .357 nut from way back, I am in love. I have been saving for pistol for my bug out bag but I think the funds are now going to go into holding for one of these.

[timcalhoun]

The desert eagle 357 from IMI is a single action 1911ish design. They are much different internally of course, but frame style and trigger pull and overall shooting feel are similar. Come to think of it, if it has the bushing and grip safety, the 1911 may be a step backwards (/duck).

I would buy it, though, if I could hold one and it passed the pick-up test. I think I would by a 9mm 1911 first, and if this new one were a double stack 44 it would very, very hard for me to pass up.

I have never had any trouble with rimmed cases in an auto, 22s work find, my 44 works fine, those I have shot a LOT and have tried the 50 and 357 as well but do not own those. I know the rim makes it a challenge to design, but the pistols I have tried all do pretty well. Oh and 30-06 is rimmed, shot that in a semi as well as a couple of other rifle rounds.

The 30-06 is rimless. BTW

I'm not saying that you can't get them to run they are just more sensitive to magazine design/spring pressure and capacity.

[hipower]

Anything to get people to buy something new....

Opinions vary.

[Jonnin]

The 30-06 is rimless. BTW

I'm not saying that you can't get them to run they are just more sensitive to magazine design/spring pressure and capacity.

Haha you are correct, it is rimless. I wonder what on earth I was thinking about this morn. I know I have shot something in that neighborhood that was rimmed, but it escapes me for the moment.

[JAB]

Looks nice and I wouldn't mind owning one if I won the lottery but it would still be waaay down on the 'want' list. In my mind, a .357 revolver is already nearly the perfect 'all around' handgun (not that I don't like/want/have other wheelguns and semiautos.) For me, taking a cartridge that is almost 'perfect' in a wheel gun and stuffing it in a bottom feeder isn't really an improvement. Hey, though, different strokes and all that.

[Smith]

Don't have the pics to post but the prototype Hi-Power he was working on when he died looks nothing like what FN eventually manufactured.

Neither did the 1911 prototype. Here is the HP protytpe in which his patent was issued. All the fundamentals are there. Saive finished the asthetics and finished well IMO.

Edited January 11, 2012 by Smith

[1gewehr]

I got to play with the Coonan .357 a bit last Fall. I have a serious case of 'want'. To me a Desert Eagle feels like a brick. The Coonan feels right. It's on my list for maybe next Fall unless I see a real bargain on one.

Ballistically:

.357 Winchester 158gr JHP - 1235fps, 535 ft/lbs

.357 Winchester 125gr JHP - 1450fps, 583 ft/lbs

.45acp Winchester 230gr JHP - 880fps, 396 ft/lbs

In what way are they similar?

[hipower]

Well said. A Big +1 for you.

[Caster]

I dont really see the point as 357 and 45 ballisticly are about equal.

I got to play with the Coonan .357 a bit last Fall. I have a serious case of 'want'. To me a Desert Eagle feels like a brick. The Coonan feels right. It's on my list for maybe next Fall unless I see a real bargain on one.

Ballistically:

.357 Winchester 158gr JHP - 1235fps, 535 ft/lbs

.357 Winchester 125gr JHP - 1450fps, 583 ft/lbs

.45acp Winchester 230gr JHP - 880fps, 396 ft/lbs

In what way are they similar?

^ yeah, that's what I was wondering.

[JReedEsq]

Seems like 10mm would be a better comparison.

[Guest dubaholic2]

Sacrilege! 1911's should be in .45acp. JMB would be rolling over in his grave!

he actually designed it for .38 super. he changed it to accomodate .45acp because thats what the military wanted to replace their .38's.