Obama Signs Martial Law Bill: NDAA Now Law

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

[hornett22]

That's what the sheep want. I'm sure someone will be on soon to tell us how harmless it is and how we're just being paranoid.

[BrasilNuts]

It's harmless you're just being paranoid.

[Guest bkelm18]

This has been discussed ad nauseum. This bill isn't the boogeyman that some right wing propagandists would have you believe.

[Guest tommy62]

This has been discussed ad nauseum. This bill isn't the boogeyman that some right wing propagandists would have you believe.

I think I see black helicopters.

[kieefer]

I don't know if Alex Jones and RonPauls YouTube's Bitch says it true, well, it must be.

Sounds like a good excuse to buy more guns to me.

[RobertNashville]

The problem I have with this kind of stuff (the videos and those on radio, TV, etc) who pump out this kind of stuff is not that laws like this isn't serous or doesn't deserve attention; is that these talking heads seem to always forget that for any law passed and for any policy put in place; they can (at least almost) always be UNDONE and/or OVERTURNED by the next President or the next Congress. That is one of the strengths of our republic. It is also, of course, one of the weaknesses since anything 'good" done by one President/Congress can always be undone by the next.

Hence the quote: "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." -Thomas Paine

[TMF]

It's harmless you're just being paranoid.

Touche Sir.... touche.

[Guest ThePunisher]

Reminiscent of things that happened in Nazi Germany. Don't ever become content with big government. Tyranny is always around the corner creeping into your neighborhood.

Once a law or act is passed by big government, it becomes even harder to overturn that law or act. It is never done with a magic wand.

Edited January 1, 2012 by ThePunisher

[daddyo]

Shocking to me that so many here blow this off as "no big deal". Spend some time thinking about the ramifications of this action.

[Guest bkelm18]

Shocking to me that so many here blow this off as "no big deal". Spend some time thinking about the ramifications of this action.

It's shocking to me how many here don't understand how these things work. Spend some time actually reading the bill and its amendments. You'll find it to be not quite what the loons are spewing. No storm troopers are going to be kicking down your door. You'll be ok.

[Guest ThePunisher]

It's shocking to me how many here don't understand how these things work. Spend some time actually reading the bill and its amendments. You'll find it to be not quite what the loons are spewing. No storm troopers are going to be kicking down your door. You'll be ok.

"You'll be ok" . Famous last words tyrants always want you to hear.

[robin48]

Just another chip out of our freedoms. This law is just one more swing of the hammer. They take a little at a time, that way the people don't realize it until it is to late.

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[Volzfan]

Sounds like a good excuse to buy more guns to me.

There's the silver lining!

[Moped]

You know, it's not the fact that I think Obama will use this law, because I don't really think he will. It's that fact that at some point a President is going to use it, because he can and thinks it's a good idea.

BKHelm, it's actually already been done illegally several times before. Now it's just legal. Abraham Lincoln had the U.S. Army arrest and hold Southern sympathizing Maryland Legislators prior to the vote on whether or not Maryland would secede from the Union. When the Supreme Court stepped in and said that was illegal and ordered their release Lincoln ignored the order and held them until after the vote. Obviously it worked.

I believe that the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII was also illegal and was exactly what this law is now legalizing.

Edited January 1, 2012 by Moped

[Guest ThePunisher]

You know, it's not the fact that I think Obama will use this law, because I don't really think he will. It's that fact that at some point a President is going to use it, because he can and thinks it's a good idea.

BKHelm, it's actually already been done illegally several times before. Now it's just legal. Abraham Lincoln had the U.S. Army arrest and hold Southern sympathizing Maryland Legislators prior to the vote on whether or not Maryland would secede from the Union. When the Supreme Court stepped in and said that was illegal and ordered their release Lincoln ignored the order and held them until after the vote. Obviously it worked.

I believe that the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII was also illegal and was exactly what this law is now legalizing.

History is always a good resource to judge what has happened and what could happen again. History has a tendency to be repeated.

[Mike.357]

who does this bill benefit?

[Guest bkelm18]

who does this bill benefit?

Its for the children.

[Mike.357]

that kind of tells me that this bill is no good.

There are plenty of laws already, they oughta be knocking some off te books rather then enacting new ones.

[Guest bkelm18]

that kind of tells me that this bill is no good.

There are plenty of laws already, they oughta be knocking some off te books rather then enacting new ones.

Of course it's no good. Most of the junk coming out of DC is bad. I just meant it isn't all about Storm Troopers and Labor Camps like the talking heads want you to believe.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

who does this bill benefit?

Since he thinks it's funny, guess I'll answer.

The government. You know, those people who

want you to feel safer, while taking away your

liberty.

If they gave a damn about our liberty they would

be nullifying a couple thousand laws already on

the books.

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[Guest 6.8 AR]

It's looking like it's very close to running a lot

of politicians out of DC. I think that's why they

are passing all the crap.

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[Guest 6.8 AR]

Look. Every time a law is passed, it's intent

is to criminalize someone's behavior. I don't

know how everyone else feels about this, but

I question every law that gets passed.

If you value what freedom you have, you would

do the same.

We are already living in what is beginning to

resemble a police state and some think " Aww,

your bashing cops again", which I think is hilarious,

but this gradual creep of rights lost starts to

become obvious after a while. That just tells me

how numbed some people have become.

Just an observation.

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[Oh Shoot]

....There are plenty of laws already, they oughta be knocking some off te books rather then enacting new ones.

Yeah, but we're not all criminals yet. Working on it daily, though.

- OS