FEMA Document (Pulled!) on the Coming Lockdown

[mcurrier]

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FEMA Document (Pulled!) on the Coming Lockdown

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Two choices how to react to this:

1. Stick head in sand and elevate rear end into air for probing

2. Be prepared

[Guest mcgyver210]

Two choices how to react to this:

1. Stick head in sand and elevate rear end into air for probing

2. Be prepared

1. People already stuck their heads in the sand when they let the real terrorist (DHS,TSA, FBI, PD, CIA, Obama, Congress etc etc etc) take over the United States of America without any objections from the majority of the people. It may be to late to fight this take over already in full progress.

2. The Current Real USA Terrorist are working towards disarming us so we can't possibly fight the takeover already mostly done by a more Socialist, Communist regime. They will probably even give their selves lifetime appointment's same as their puppets commonly known as the SCOTUS are given. This will allow them to finish off that pesky document called the United States Constitution's power & Influence in the name of Safety & Progress. This isn't a Hypothetical war, it is a reality & the real US Citizens lost it along time ago.

Maybe when people with opposing opinions start diapering or worse people will realize what has already happened. The United States of America is no longer United but is the new Modern era Nazi Germany as Hitler wanted so many years ago. Papers NOW or we will KILL You.

Edited December 26, 2011 by mcgyver210

[Reservoir Dog]

All this FEMA tinfoil stuff makes me want to watch the X-Files movie again.

[Guest mcgyver210]

All this FEMA tinfoil stuff makes me want to watch the X-Files movie again.

It isn't TinFoil Stuff when it really is happening unfortunately have you been watching all the events of the last few years.

[Reservoir Dog]

It isn't TinFoil Stuff when it really is happening unfortunately have you been watching all the events of the last few years.

No, its all tinfoil stuff. But in the spirit of fairness: Exactly what are these "events of the last few years" that you refer to. Please elaborate on them.

Note: if all you can reference is stuff from Alex Jones or World Nut Daily or some other far-right conspiracy/truther/nutjob website, then don't waste your time.

Edited December 26, 2011 by Reservoir Dog
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[Guest mcgyver210]

No, its all tinfoil stuff. But in the spirit of fairness: Exactly what are these "events of the last few years" that you refer to. Please elaborate on them.

Note: if all you can reference is stuff from Alex Jones or World Nut Daily or some other far-right conspiracy/truther/nutjob website, then don't waste you time.

There is nothing secret about the Governments abuse of power in the last few years based on the events of Sep/11. Even though some stories are far fetched there is usually a grain of TRUTH in most.

[Guest mikedwood]

No, its all tinfoil stuff. But in the spirit of fairness: Exactly what are these "events of the last few years" that you refer to. Please elaborate on them.

Note: if all you can reference is stuff from Alex Jones or World Nut Daily or some other far-right conspiracy/truther/nutjob website, then don't waste your time.

Yeah that's exactly part of it. The main stream media sources are all in on it apparently so you can't find it there. But...

Project Gunwalker

Iran Contra

MkUltra

Those are all proven and admitted to.

Mainstream media is owned by large corporations, large corporations need favors from the government so what do you think happens? Time to wake up things are not as they appear.

A little Xfiles would be a good start. Netflx has them all.

[Reservoir Dog]

The United States of America is no longer United but is the new Modern era Nazi Germany as Hitler wanted so many years ago. Papers NOW or we will KILL You.

There is nothing secret about the Governments abuse of power in the last few years based on the events of Sep/11. Even though some stories are far fetched there is usually a grain of TRUTH in most.

Okay. That really doesn't tell me anything. I wanted specifics regarding these "events" that you speak of. As someone who just called the US a "new modern era Nazi Germany," I thought you may have some ground breaking information that has somehow escaped everyone else. But I see now that it is not the case. Then again, I guess it is hard to prove something that does not exist.

[Metalhead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdqyTmfDwk0

[Reservoir Dog]

A little Xfiles would be a good start. Netflx has them all.

Oh, I love the X-Files. Great show, and highly entertaining. If you are into the FEMA conspiracy stuff, then I suggest you watch it, as well. It will be the closest you ever get to all that crap.

Now, off to watch the movie!

[Guest lostpass]

tis kind of stuff has been floating around as long as I can remember. I remember the good old days when there were plans to spy on you all the time. The mysterious "they" finally got people to give it up freely with FaceBook!

Seriously, Clinton couldn't keep a little side action secret but could keep plans for the mass imprisonment of the populace (almost) safely tucked away? Bush, who was a blundering fool incapable of the least bit of guile according to most detractors not only managed to steal two elections but also managed to (almost) secretly begin the machinations for FEMA camps across the nation. And OBama, who somehow manages to be a socialist, communist, fascist, islamist, atheist and a one worlder all the same time (while being an idiot) manages to (again almost) keep the pending forced incarceration of the majority of America a secret.

It all sounds almost convincing when the non specific "they" are out to get you but it is fantasy stuff.

[Guest mcgyver210]

Okay. That really doesn't tell me anything. I wanted specifics regarding these "events" that you speak of. As someone who just called the US a "new modern era Nazi Germany," I thought you may have some ground breaking information that has somehow escaped everyone else. But I see now that it is not the case. Then again, I guess it is hard to prove something that does not exist.

Nothing all that Ground Breaking really but there are many Parallels to Nazi Germany with our freedoms & protections ftom our own Government being taken away little by little.

So TSAs assaults on our Constitutional rights are just made up along with their expansion into every part of our lives. We are rapidly evolving to a Papers or arrest/death society.

Also do you really think the HCP is anything more than a way to force a registration process so that when they really get what they want they will bust all our doors down with no warrant to confiscate what they know we have Guns. They give a little with plans on taking more in the long run.

Nazi Germany was a close parallel to how things are going now. Forget the media just look at the stuff they admit to. All the Courts at every level are slowly yet methodically removing our rights as US citizens. I guess the recent passage of Indefinite detention (Concentration Camps comes to mind) without any charges, PC or evidence indefinitely with the kicker being you can be Murdered if they want to all in total secrecy. Yes I know they have done this type of thing in the past but now it is actually in writing.

Also when the Military is set to be used against its on citizens that is also a parallel to Nazi Germany.

I don't drink at all but wonder what would happen if I refused to submit to the checkpoints that the courts decided are legal even without any PC. And No I don't like Drunk driving since I never met my Grand Father because of one. But I also don't believe two wrongs makes a right.

Oh & lets not forget the Famous Terry Stops used to detain, harass & intimidate.

I may need to go back & read again but Hitler didn't just change everything all at once. He was considered a Great Strategist if I remember correctly.

Oh & don't forget the Master Switch they have put in place to stop us from communicating on the net. Controlling communications is an important tactic used by many rulers in the past & even now.

I never claimed to be an expert but I did give my honest opinion based on the info available to me over the past few years. I also know Im not a good writer & sometimes I have more trouble getting my point across in text.

Before it is over they could legislate when you can go to the restroom.

Im just rambling now so Ill quit.

But for now me & you still can voice our own opinions & disagree with each other which we obviously don't agree on this subject.

[TMF]

tis kind of stuff has been floating around as long as I can remember. I remember the good old days when there were plans to spy on you all the time. The mysterious "they" finally got people to give it up freely with FaceBook!

Seriously, Clinton couldn't keep a little side action secret but could keep plans for the mass imprisonment of the populace (almost) safely tucked away? Bush, who was a blundering fool incapable of the least bit of guile according to most detractors not only managed to steal two elections but also managed to (almost) secretly begin the machinations for FEMA camps across the nation. And OBama, who somehow manages to be a socialist, communist, fascist, islamist, atheist and a one worlder all the same time (while being an idiot) manages to (again almost) keep the pending forced incarceration of the majority of America a secret.

It all sounds almost convincing when the non specific "they" are out to get you but it is fantasy stuff.

Hahaha! In line with what you're suggesting, I've always said that to suggest our government is capable of conspiring on such vast levels is to suggest that our government is somehow competent and effecient. The worlds most technically advanced and well trained intelligence agency is within our borders and can't go a week without getting a source burned on CNN.

[DaveTN]

Also do you really think the HCP is anything more than a way to force a registration process so that when they really get what they want they will bust all our doors down with no warrant to confiscate what they know we have Guns. They give a little with plans on taking more in the long run.

This really surprised me. Do you really think that when the Tennessee legislature created the HCP program it was done as a part of some grand scheme to confiscate weapons? 5% of Tennesseans have an HCP. If that was their intent don’t you think they may have been able to come up with a plan that would involve more gun owners?

The SCOTUS for the first time in history has ruled that we have a right to own guns. The Tennessee legislature has passed legislation that prevents local government from passing gun laws, and passed legislation that prevents the confiscation of guns during an emergency. The Feds did the same with the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act. So, who is going to kick down our doors and take our guns?

Hitler could not have done what he did without the support of the German people. Neither an out of control government nor the crazies that are suggesting a takeover of the government have the support of the American people. The American people will not take up arms against each other.

Edited December 27, 2011 by DaveTN

[Dolomite_supafly]

Nothing all that Ground Breaking really but there are many Parallels to Nazi Germany with our freedoms & protections ftom our own Government being taken away little by little.

So TSAs assaults on our Constitutional rights are just made up along with their expansion into every part of our lives. We are rapidly evolving to a Papers or arrest/death society.

What exactly is TSA forcing you to do that is violating you constitutional rights? You are not required to fly to your destination. Now I don't agree with the TSA or their mission but they are not doing anything you did not ask for them to do. You can just as easily drive, take a boat or even walk to where you need to go and never have to deal with the TSA.

Also do you really think the HCP is anything more than a way to force a registration process so that when they really get what they want they will bust all our doors down with no warrant to confiscate what they know we have Guns. They give a little with plans on taking more in the long run.

I hardly believe that HCP are a means to track gun owners. There are plenty of other ways. When you buy a gun that record is kept for a very, very long time. It is kept both digitally as well as a hard copy. And by virtue of where you hang out, both physically and online, is a good indication of whether you own a gun or not. A quick search of your ISP would reveal you are member of at least one gun site, probably own a Jeep as well as the fact you run your own business.

Nazi Germany was a close parallel to how things are going now. Forget the media just look at the stuff they admit to. All the Courts at every level are slowly yet methodically removing our rights as US citizens. I guess the recent passage of Indefinite detention (Concentration Camps comes to mind) without any charges, PC or evidence indefinitely with the kicker being you can be Murdered if they want to all in total secrecy. Yes I know they have done this type of thing in the past but now it is actually in writing.

Have you actually read the text that is part of the bill? Or are you just reading the emails sent from Alex Jones and Prison Planet.

If you have read it and still have a problem with those "covered persons" in the bill then I understand why you are so worried about being taken away, I honestly would be too. There is no requirement for the detention of US citizens by the military.

As far as indefinite detention that is only only allowed after the "covered persons" have had a military hearing to determine their status. And that hearing must be completed within 90 days of detention. People, even enemy combatants, are not going to be wisked away without determining their status. And 90 days is a lot faster than most criminals get in determining their guilt.

Also when the Military is set to be used against its on citizens that is also a parallel to Nazi Germany.

There is no requirement for the detention of US citizens by the military.

I don't drink at all but wonder what would happen if I refused to submit to the checkpoints that the courts decided are legal even without any PC. And No I don't like Drunk driving since I never met my Grand Father because of one. But I also don't believe two wrongs makes a right.

The officers do not need PC to stop and talk to you at a checkpoint. They do need PC to collect samples. They are not going to make you submit without PC. And if you refuse to submit after they feel they have PC there are laws in place to deal with your refusal.

Oh & lets not forget the Famous Terry Stops used to detain, harass & intimidate.

As well as find and convict criminals.

The average citizen is not going to be put in a position where they are suspect of being involved in criminal activity. Now criminals are probably worried about this but the average citizen isn't. I know in my time on this earth I have never been stopped and frisked. It is probably because I do not assiciate with criminal elements.

I may need to go back & read again but Hitler didn't just change everything all at once. He was considered a Great Strategist if I remember correctly.

Oh & don't forget the Master Switch they have put in place to stop us from communicating on the net. Controlling communications is an important tactic used by many rulers in the past & even now.

The internet is not a right, free speech yes but the internet as a way to speak is not. The government doesn't have a master switch to stop us from communicating by using our mouths, although I wish they sometimes did. That is part of the problem today, people believe things like the internet is a right in the same way free speech is but the internet is not.

I never claimed to be an expert but I did give my honest opinion based on the info available to me over the past few years. I also know Im not a good writer & sometimes I have more trouble getting my point across in text.

Before it is over they could legislate when you can go to the restroom.

They aleady do.

Im just rambling now so Ill quit.

But for now me & you still can voice our own opinions & disagree with each other which we obviously don't agree on this subject.

See above

Dolomite

[dbla]

See above

Dolomite

Here here.

[leroy]

Folks:_____________

As a practical and pragmatic observation. The USA has been fighting in the middle east for about 10 years now. We (...at the beginning, at least...) completely over-run and made a vassal state of two countries. In the face of all this; I would dare say that they have not rounded up all the "rustic militants and abrigional good ole boys" who shoot at our military and blow things up as yet. What would make you think that this same US gubmt who is meddling in and directing this exercise could suddenly identify you, round you up, and pitch you into an interment camp in a matter of days? I simply cant buy it.

Havin said all that, i think folks like Alex Jones serve a very important purpose in our society and culture. They dare to think and speak the thoughts that some of the bureaucrats among us love to think, but are constrained from doing. That alone is a very valuable commodity. I like the conspiracy nuts. They are not only entertaining, they are thought-provoking. I say:"....Keep up the good work Alex!!!....".

leroy

[Defender]

I'll just say this...being paranoid does NOT mean that there is not really someone after you...lol.

Edited December 27, 2011 by barewoolf

[TMF]

I'll just say this...being paranod does NOT mean that there is not really someone after you...lol.

That's what "they" want you to think!

[mcurrier]

Okay. That really doesn't tell me anything. I wanted specifics regarding these "events" that you speak of. As someone who just called the US a "new modern era Nazi Germany," I thought you may have some ground breaking information that has somehow escaped everyone else. But I see now that it is not the case. Then again, I guess it is hard to prove something that does not exist.

H.R. 1540 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

The National Defense Authorization Act Explained: | Joanne Mariner | Verdict | Legal Analysis and Commentary from Justia

[Guest mcgyver210]

See above

Nothing all that Ground Breaking really but there are many Parallels to Nazi Germany with our freedoms & protections ftom our own Government being taken away little by little.

So TSAs assaults on our Constitutional rights are just made up along with their expansion into every part of our lives. We are rapidly evolving to a Papers or arrest/death society.

What exactly is TSA forcing you to do that is violating you constitutional rights? You are not required to fly to your destination. Now I don't agree with the TSA or their mission but they are not doing anything you did not ask for them to do. You can just as easily drive, take a boat or even walk to where you need to go and never have to deal with the TSA.

Dolomite

The TSA isn't just in the Airports anymore or did I imagine them at the Portland TN Weigh Station being the catalyst for even more intrusive than normal Inspections along with longer delays than normal? I already choose not to fly but they now want to be everywhere no doubt for more job security. I also must have Imagined the TSA Vyper expasinon plans which is intended to go after other forms of transportation. Dealing with the DOT is enough of a hassle already although my one not so good experience was OK in the larger picture because the LEO saw I tried to do what I was supposed to do.

They don't need The TSA on the water for boating since you have NO rights on the water against safety inspections which are routinely used to search your boat.

Walking may be the only form of transportation they don't get involved in, scratch that the mobile vans can take care of that also.

I own a business that uses equipment so walking isn't an option unless I just close up & become dependent on the friendly Government to take care of my needs.

Mcgyver210

Also do you really think the HCP is anything more than a way to force a registration process so that when they really get what they want they will bust all our doors down with no warrant to confiscate what they know we have Guns. They give a little with plans on taking more in the long run.

I hardly believe that HCP are a means to track gun owners. There are plenty of other ways. When you buy a gun that record is kept for a very, very long time. It is kept both digitally as well as a hard copy. And by virtue of where you hang out, both physically and online, is a good indication of whether you own a gun or not. A quick search of your ISP would reveal you are member of at least one gun site, probably own a Jeep as well as the fact you run your own business.

Dolomite

Yes I agree with that but I also don't believe the Feds want us armed in reality. As for secrecy anything I don't want none about me I would never put it on the net. I'm not on FB at all yet I can be found on FB due to friends & family. Now as for Forums I have many interest so I am on many Forums.

It would also be very difficult to just take everyone's Guns all at once without lots of blood shed so of course it is much easier to go about it with the Give a Little take a little more later approach

Look at what we lost to get restaurant carry. Now businesses have much less strict posting requirements & if caught in a posted area we can be in more hot water than before.

Mcgyver210

Nazi Germany was a close parallel to how things are going now. Forget the media just look at the stuff they admit to. All the Courts at every level are slowly yet methodically removing our rights as US citizens. I guess the recent passage of Indefinite detention (Concentration Camps comes to mind) without any charges, PC or evidence indefinitely with the kicker being you can be Murdered if they want to all in total secrecy. Yes I know they have done this type of thing in the past but now it is actually in writing.

Have you actually read the text that is part of the bill? Or are you just reading the emails sent from Alex Jones and Prison Planet.

If you have read it and still have a problem with those "covered persons" in the bill then I understand why you 9are so worried about being taken away, I honestly would be too. There is no requirement for the detention of US citizens by the military.

As far as indefinite detention that is only only allowed after the "covered persons" have had a military hearing to determine their status. And that hearing must be completed within 90 days of detention. People, even enemy combatants, are not going to be wisked away without determining their status. And 90 days is a lot faster than most criminals get in determining their guilt.

Dolomite

I have read parts of it but NO I haven't read the whole bill as I didn't read the whole Obama Care Bill either although I did have a client that actually read that entire Bill word for word & he said it was much worse than even the News said it was.

There were two parts to the Indefinite detention Bill I remember reading & one part pretty much gave Cart-Blanche to strip a US Citizen of their right to due process with little evidence similar to the way Government spies on us now with very little reason & no warrant.

90 days is plenty of time to make up what ever they want to so they can keep you longer without representation the key words being without charges or representation.

Also I have always looked at all contracts as that is what they can do even if they tell you that portion of the contract isn't really enforced so just don't worry about it.

Oh & you telling me the Military is the one determining guilty certainly does nothing to make me feel safer.

Laws are allot of times not used as the way they were intended anyway. Government routinely makes laws that supposedly had a different intent to begin with or do they?

Example: The HCP wasn't intended to be Open Carry in TN as it is interpreted. It was originally intended to protect us again over zealous enforcement by LEOs for Printing.

Mcgyver210

Also when the Military is set to be used against its on citizens that is also a parallel to Nazi Germany.

There is no requirement for the detention of US citizens by the military.

Dolomite

No but there is nothing now to prevent it on US soil either without charges or due process.

Mcgyver210

I don't drink at all but wonder what would happen if I refused to submit to the checkpoints that the courts decided are legal even without any PC. And No I don't like Drunk driving since I never met my Grand Father because of one. But I also don't believe two wrongs makes a right.

The officers do not need PC to stop and talk to you at a checkpoint. They do need PC to collect samples. They are not going to make you submit without PC. And if you refuse to submit after they feel they have PC there are laws in place to deal with your refusal.

Dolomite

Officers don't really need PC anyway because any one I have ever spoken with has said they can find a reason to stop anyone based on the way the laws are written. Funny thing is I can be inconvenienced when I have done nothing wrong but if a LEO observes a drunk leaving the parking lot & stops them it is called entrapment.

Just this year we witnessed a Drunk Driver almost Hit us head on but he missed us & hit a tree instead 3 times before managing to drive down road. We did the right thing reported it went to court (paid parking lost time away from our business) yet the Judge didn't use the law as intended & take his license but instead she felt SORRY for him saying if she took his license under the new law he could loose it in the higher court for an even longer time.

In the end he is still driving & drinking & driving a Commercial Van & we wont be wasting our time again. Now the LEO & DA did their part or tried to.

Mcgyver210

Oh & lets not forget the Famous Terry Stops used to detain, harass & intimidate.

As well as find and convict criminals.

The average citizen is not going to be put in a position where they are suspect of being involved in criminal activity. Now criminals are probably worried about this but the average citizen isn't. I know in my time on this earth I have never been stopped and frisked. It is probably because I do not assiciate with criminal elements.

Dolomite

This is somewhat correct but some LEOs not all have been known to abuse this power. I also have never been frisked accept one time by TSA before they became Nazis. My younger son was basically Strip searched though which traumatized him when it comes to flying because of the way he was accosted by the TSA (He to this day dislikes all TSA)

But I am also the type that looks at it from the point of view the easiest way for your rights to be diminished is to go after the ones people wont care about then it will be easier to take more later from others.

Mcgyver210

I may need to go back & read again but Hitler didn't just change everything all at once. He was considered a Great Strategist if I remember correctly.

Oh & don't forget the Master Switch they have put in place to stop us from communicating on the net. Controlling communications is an important tactic used by many rulers in the past & even now.

The internet is not a right, free speech yes but the internet as a way to speak is not. The government doesn't have a master switch to stop us from communicating by using our mouths, although I wish they sometimes did. That is part of the problem today, people believe things like the internet is a right in the same way free speech is but the internet is not.

Dolomite

The Internet also doesn't belong to the US Government, It is world wide & not singularly located in a Government Facility. I guess if they took paper away by your reasoning it would be acceptable.

One reason their is so much more publicity on Government Abuse is the Internet. They have been able to do basically what ever they please for many years because communications was easily controlled. They lost that control with the Internet age so they said we need to control the peoples communications again. What better way to get a control in place than to say it is for our safety.

Mcgyver210

I never claimed to be an expert but I did give my honest opinion based on the info available to me over the past few years. I also know Im not a good writer & sometimes I have more trouble getting my point across in text.

Before it is over they could legislate when you can go to the restroom.

They aleady do.

Dolomite

Not here they don't, I go to the restroom when I choose.

Im just rambling now so Ill quit.

Mcgyver210

I like a good discussion even if we don't agree keeps me thinking.

[Dolomite_supafly]

If a U.S. citizen is on U.S. soil and is attempting to harm the U.S. or its citizens then they should not be exempt just because they are U.S. citizens or that they are on U.S. soil. They should be treated the same way as any other enemy combatant.

And according to the text, if a U.S. citizen is caught they are not required to be detained. They are not exempt either, which is how it should be. An enemy to the country should be locked up without regard of their citizenship.

I feel more comfortable being judged by a military tribunal than a civillian court.

There are laws in place that tell you when you can use th restroom. You can't use the restroom in public. And as a matter of fact you could be convicted of being a sex offender of you do. That, to me, is saying I can't use the restroom when I want.

I have read the detention portion of the bill and it does say those in the "control group" may be detained. If a U.S. citizen is part of that group they should be detained.

Here is the text:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s1867pcs.pdf

Page 359-360

(a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection () pending disposition under the law of war.

(COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section is any person as follows:

(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.

(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

Please tell me what part of this it is you do not agree with? Again, citizenship should not be considered if they fall into one or both of these categories of "Covered Persons" but in fact it is (see below).

And how it pertains to U.S. citizens:

Page 362

(APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS

(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

This means U.S citizens are not required to be detained. Even if they are not required to be detained they can still be but only if they fall into the categories mentioned above which is how it should be.

I will try to get the full section into another post if anyone wants to read it. It is just a big PITA to cut, paste, change format and then make it able to be posted here in a foramt that is able to be understood. And honestly I am not in the mood to do this at the moment.

Dolomite

[Guest bkelm18]

I feel more comfortable being judged by a military tribunal than a civillian court.

You and me both.

[leroy]

Folks:_____________

Check post #9 (...and the whole thread...) here: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/national-politics-legislation/66742-joe-joseph-military-designate-americans-enemy-during-collapse.html .

leroy

[Guest Baron]

Funny how no one ties Abraham Lincoln to Hitler or substitutes their comparisons of Nazi Germany with Civil War America. After all, there are many political parallels.

However, that is just the case of national governments and politics. You can link similarities with any of them if you dig far enough. Bush was Hitler, Obama is Stalin...etc.

The important thing is that people pay attention and don't let things go too far (like Nazi Germany). Luckily, I think we are becoming more aware, as a people, about Government shenanigans that what we have in at least 30 years. The bad side is that it is extremely polarized. Seems everything is coming either from the far left or far right with no room or acceptance for anything in the middle.

Currently, our Government can't afford to disarm, enslave, or perform any other malicious act. In fact, if you wan't something real to worry about, our Federal budget should be enough to keep you in nightmares for a long time.