Age of Handgun Ownership

[Fallguy]

Where you get THAT, Mike?

It's only a misdemeanor, even if you've been caught doing it more than once. Doesn't even disqualify you from obtaining HCP, let alone merely owning firearms?

- OS

I believe you are right OS.

There are only 3 misdemeanors that can keep you from getting a HCP

• 2 DUI's within 10 years or 1 DUI in the last 5 years 39-17-1351©(11)
  
• Domestic Violence 39-17-1351©(16)
  
• Stalking 39-17-1351©(18)
  

Once you have a HCP, in addition to the misdemeanors listed above, it can be suspended if you are convicted of any Class A misdemeanor {39-17-1352(f)(1)}. But even then after the term of the sentence is up, you can pay a $25 reinstatement fee and get your HCP back.

[Fallguy]

Actually, seems that is NOT correct to me. That pending charge doesn't have the possibility of a year's sentence, so are you sure that's why it was denied?

- OS

Just a little fact, over half of the appealed denied transactions are reversed. See the TICS Stats website

Example for 2008 it was 62%

• 4472 Denials were appealed
  
• 2794 Were reversed
  

So just because someone comes back denied doesn't mean that have actually done anything that is disqualifying.

[Punisher84]

Actually, seems that is NOT correct to me. That pending charge doesn't have the possibility of a year's sentence, so are you sure that's why it was denied?

- OS

Just going by what this guy told me. TBI never actually tells us what the reason behind the denial is. Judging from this fellow's look and demeanor I'd say "Intent to go armed" probably isn't the only thing on his file.

[Oh Shoot]

Just going by what this guy told me. TBI never actually tells us what the reason behind the denial is. Judging from this fellow's look and demeanor I'd say "Intent to go armed" probably isn't the only thing on his file.

Ah so, IC.

- OS

[Mike.357]

Where you get THAT, Mike?

It's only a misdemeanor, even if you've been caught doing it more than once. Doesn't even disqualify you from obtaining HCP, let alone merely owning firearms?

- OS

when i personally went through this charge( later to be rightfully dismissed as out of hand) I was denied a gun purchase, and TDOS sent me a letter saying to basically either show the charge edjudicated in my favor or the permit was no longer valid.

I am not going back and researching it all over again, but I DO remember finding law that said you could not buy guns with a conviction on that charge. I dunno maybe you can keep what you already have??

[Guest Roatch]

So I have been trying to figure this out for a while now. In Tennessee I cannot purchase a gun(19 years old). I can however own a gun? Gifted to me by my parents? I can use this gun for recreation at the shooting range. Is all this correct?

EDIT: oh and yes, what about ammo? Will I be able to buy ammo at the range by myself?

EDIT2: this would all be concerning a walther p22 handgun.

Edited January 27, 2009 by Roatch

[Punisher84]

So I have been trying to figure this out for a while now. In Tennessee I cannot purchase a gun(19 years old). I can however own a gun? Gifted to me by my parents? I can use this gun for recreation at the shooting range. Is all this correct?

EDIT: oh and yes, what about ammo? Will I be able to buy ammo at the range by myself?

EDIT2: this would all be concerning a walther p22 handgun.

You could buy .22 lr because it's not considered a handgun round primarily. You cannot purcase handgun ammo at a store or range, but you could shoot the gun yes.

[Oh Shoot]

when i personally went through this charge( later to be rightfully dismissed as out of hand) I was denied a gun purchase, and TDOS sent me a letter saying to basically either show the charge edjudicated in my favor or the permit was no longer valid.

I am not going back and researching it all over again, but I DO remember finding law that said you could not buy guns with a conviction on that charge. I dunno maybe you can keep what you already have??

Hmmm. Well, first, we're talking two different things here...it started with simply BUYING a gun, for which a misdemeanor does NOT disqualify.

Second, GETTING a HCP, the misdemeanor of "going armed" also does NOT disqualify.

But I'm totally confused on that incident you had ... you're saying you were both denied a gun purchase AND threatened with revoking your HCP?

So you DID already have your HCP when this incident happened? (I didn't search for the original thread). If you did, then the charge shouldn't even have been "going armed" but one of the other violations of HCP carry.

- OS

[Mike.357]

did not have HCP when arrested, received it a week or so later. Got the letter from TDOS almost 3 months after receiving HCP. Case did not play out for about 5 months.

bunch of BS that I am glad the door is closed upon.

Maybe it has changed now 18 months later but the going armed charge was a

Class A misdemeaner.

The gun denial was approved on appeal as the case had not adjuticated yet. But the background checkers said any gun purchases I made would be case by case, and basically denied each time until it was settled.

I will tell you all about over lunch one day.

[Oh Shoot]

did not have HCP when arrested, received it a week or so later. Got the letter from TDOS almost 3 months after receiving HCP. Case did not play out for about 5 months.

bunch of BS that I am glad the door is closed upon.

Maybe it has changed now 18 months later but the going armed charge was a

Class A misdemeaner.

The gun denial was approved on appeal as the case had not adjuticated yet. But the background checkers said any gun purchases I made would be case by case, and basically denied each time until it was settled.

I will tell you all about over lunch one day.

I remember most of the series of events, was a total railroaded boondoogle, just didn't know your HCP status at the time.

Was Class A because they decided you were "in public".

Still, letter of the law says:

"Applicants shall not currently be under indictment or information for any criminal offense punishable by a term exceeding one (1) year"

And Class A misdemeanor is max 11/29.

It's written that way to be specific about being LESS than one year.

So that's a double railroaded boondoogle, and just proves that letter of the law is often totally ignored by The Man.

- OS

[DaveTN]

when i personally went through this charge( later to be rightfully dismissed as out of hand) I was denied a gun purchase, and TDOS sent me a letter saying to basically either show the charge edjudicated in my favor or the permit was no longer valid.

I am not going back and researching it all over again, but I DO remember finding law that said you could not buy guns with a conviction on that charge. I dunno maybe you can keep what you already have??

That’s exactly the same thing that happened to me. (Except I was guilty )

I was arrested in Illinois for misdemeanor possession of a handgun in my car (20 years ago). The charges were dismissed.

I bought many guns in Illinois and Florida over the last 20 years. But I was tuned down twice for a purchase in Tennessee. I appealed and it was approved both times. But TBI told me that they had to check, they said that it didn’t show as dismissed on the first check and that if I was convicted of that I couldn’t purchase a gun in Tennessee; even though it was a misdemeanor. I know that some here say that isn’t right, but I was denied and I’m just saying that TBI said that was why. Both times it took 4 days for them to check with Illinois and see it was dismissed. Both times they called me and told me I was cleared to go pick-up the gun. My HCP went through without a glitch.

I also see applications and renewals for HCP permits (listed on that link that someone posted here) denied for convictions that are misdemeanors. I could be wrong, but I think it’s not as cut and dried as Misdemeanor/Felony convictions.

[DaveTN]

So I have been trying to figure this out for a while now. In Tennessee I cannot purchase a gun(19 years old). I can however own a gun? Gifted to me by my parents? I can use this gun for recreation at the shooting range. Is all this correct?

EDIT: oh and yes, what about ammo? Will I be able to buy ammo at the range by myself?

EDIT2: this would all be concerning a walther p22 handgun.

No, that’s not correct.

You can buy a gun from a T<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:State>ennessee</st1:State> resident on a private sale at 19. You can’t buy from an FFL because they are bound by Federal law; we are bound by state law.

[Guest Roatch]

No, that’s not correct.

You can buy a gun from a T<st1:state>ennessee</st1:state> resident on a private sale at 19. You can’t buy from an FFL because they are bound by Federal law; we are bound by state law.

Alright, Thanks

[Guest 270win]

Buy one out of the newspaper. I did it at your age. Make sure the person doesn't seem shady...or the price is too good to be true. Exchange DL information...if the seller won't...kindly turn down and walk away. You can also get a handgun as a gift from someone if they buy it from a dealer...such as a Christmas or birthday present. The hitch is buying ammo...and that was a hassle when i was under 21. If you have a friend or family member that will buy for you...then you are good to go and have a great time shooting, hunting, or keeping it at home.

You might be legal in some states to legally carry the handgun loaded, such as in your car, when in other states like Mississippi or Louisiana. You can openly carry a handgun on your person in Louisiana at 18 without a license. You can carry a handgun in Arkansas at 18 when on a journey. I would highly recommend you conceal it if you decide to be on a journey in Arkansas. TN stinks b/c you need a permit to keep it loaded in your car.

[Guest Roatch]

Buy one out of the newspaper. I did it at your age. Make sure the person doesn't seem shady...or the price is too good to be true. Exchange DL information...if the seller won't...kindly turn down and walk away. You can also get a handgun as a gift from someone if they buy it from a dealer...such as a Christmas or birthday present. The hitch is buying ammo...and that was a hassle when i was under 21. If you have a friend or family member that will buy for you...then you are good to go and have a great time shooting, hunting, or keeping it at home.

You might be legal in some states to legally carry the handgun loaded, such as in your car, when in other states like Mississippi or Louisiana. You can openly carry a handgun on your person in Louisiana at 18 without a license. You can carry a handgun in Arkansas at 18 when on a journey. I would highly recommend you conceal it if you decide to be on a journey in Arkansas. TN stinks b/c you need a permit to keep it loaded in your car.

Good idea, I'll try that , though the pistol I'm looking for is a little less common than most. A walther p22. I want to buy it to work on my marksmanship, when I turn 21 and get my HCP I'm planning on picking up something a little more heavy duty.

Additionally I think this weapon would be ideal for my situation because the rounds (.22 LR) are cheap and as someone stated above I will probably be able to buy myself because they are not primarily handgun ammo.

I think the real trouble will be finding someone in my area that owns a one.

[Mark@Sea]

Now to really stir the pot....

Have you thought about a black powder revolver?

[Mike.357]

You can buy a black powder revolver through mail order as long as you have a means to send a check or money order to pay for it. I do not believe there are any age restrictions on the firearm, caps, balls, or powder. Also the percussion pistols can be sent through US regular mail.

A properly loaded percussion revolver will be very reliable and accurate. Seal the percussion cap onto the nipple with a little drop of wax and the gun will remain ready to fire for a very long time.

These pistols come in all shapes and sizes anywhere from a massive handgun for hunting or a small hideout gun for easy concealment.

[Guest 153blue]

actually a friend of mine in Knox has one forsale in OD green.. if you want to drive here to the Boro/Nashville area......

[Guest Roatch]

Unfortunately 153blue, I can't make that drive :_(

As for black powder pistols, I think I'll stay away from them. I don't have the patience for that kind of work for just a few shots

[Mark@Sea]

I've found that with familiarity and the right tools, they load pretty quickly. The perception that these are toys - well, they worked very well for the likes of Bill Hickok.

[Guest mark_justmark]

yes 21 for handguns and handgun ammo but only 18 for rifles, shotguns and ammo for them. i think im gonna start just telling the people at walmart that i have a carbine that shoots .45acp lol