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Guest BobPayne44
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is anyone using this press with lee dies?

I have an opportunity to get a XL650 for a steal and i have alot of money in all my lee dies and would like to be able to use them without a lot of fuss..I know i will need the different caliber conversion kits to go along with my dies but if i don't have to re buy all my dies it will be a great little deal.

how is the powder measure on the 650 also?

thanks

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Bob:____________

I've got a "new to me" Dillon 650 myself. Dont know about the lee dies specifically; but if they are standard diameter (...7/8 dia by standard thread...), they will go right in the toolhead(s) no problem. You may need an exrta crimp die for each caliber, but they dont cost much. I've got a mix of dillon, lyman, RCBS, etc set up on my toolheads. The way a dillon is designed to work, ya change tool heads (...they are about $6 each from dillon...) to change calibers. That way you dont have to keep readjusting your dies to get the press set up. The bad news is that you do need the caliber conversion kits. A dillon uses a "shell plate" that is, in effect, the shellholder for the specific caliber you are reloading. You have to change the "shell plate" out for each different shell size. The good news is that 38 and 357 are the same shell plate size. Fourty four special and 44 mag. are the same shell plate size; plus a few others. The downside of a dillon is the need to change the shell plates, belling case expanding die insert in the powder die, and the parts in the shell case drop tube. It aint hard; but it probably takes me at least, 15 or so minutes to change calibers and get ready to go again.

I tend to set the dillon to run large runs (...about 500 or more...) rounds up to save the bother of changin everything out. If you are loadin a couple of hundred pistol or rifle rounds, you can most likely do it quicker on a single stage. If you are loading to shoot bunches of ammo of the same caliber and have the recipes down pat, you cant touch a dillons speed or ease of loading.

RE: The powder measure, it works very well. Just make sure it's set up exacly as it should be. By the way, the caliber kit(s) also have the belling die for the powder measure. On a dillon, the powder measure station both bells the case and drops the powder in the case at the same stroke. That's another reason why you need to keep separate tool heads for each caliber loaded (...and even each bullet style loaded within the same caliber...). Fiddlin with the belling adjustment is tedious.

Hope this gives a bit of help on the subject. There are a bunch of dillon folks on the forum; im sure they will chime in as they see the post. If ya run into problems, just post a question or call the dillon tech support guys. They are a great resource.

leroy

Guest BobPayne44
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Thanks a bunch I have a call into the person selling it waiting on a call back so I can go grab it all

I have been using a loadmaster for a while now and getting tired of all the slop in the handle and the ram portion why they built it with aluminum is beyond me I keep it greased and oiled and it still has wore out probably loaded a few thousand rounds of 9mm and 1500 or so 45 acp and 2000 .223

Thanks

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I don't have the 650 but the 550 and that's all I use in it is Lee dies. You should be able to use any brand dies you want in the Dillon.

Guest BobPayne44
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Missed the boat on the 650 he didnt get my message until yesterday and didnt think i wanted it so it was sold Saturday.

ohhh well now im in the market for another 650 did so much reading up on the 650 past few days.

anyone know where a good deal is on a used one? would prefer one with a case feeder.

if not may have to talk the better half into a new one for Christmas LOL

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Missed the boat on the 650 he didnt get my message until yesterday and didnt think i wanted it so it was sold Saturday.

ohhh well now im in the market for another 650 did so much reading up on the 650 past few days.

anyone know where a good deal is on a used one? would prefer one with a case feeder.

if not may have to talk the better half into a new one for Christmas LOL

I looked for close to a year for a used 550 or 650 with no luck. Any one I found was priced nearly at new prices, especially when factoring in shipping. As far as new ones, it does not seem to matter who you buy one from, Dillon dictates what they must be sold for, so no deals there. I finally broke down and bought one from my local dealer here in Mt Juliet.

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Hey Bob,

I've used Lee dies with my Dillons (not 650). Only issue I've had is that the threads on the die may not be long enough; that is when it's screwed into the toolhead for proper headspace/sizing there might be just enough thread for the lock ring to work.

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