More cops, more stops

[daddyo]

I heard about this on the way to work this morning. Just be aware that there will be more checkpoints over the Thanksgiving holidays:

Tennessee To Start

[Guest boatme99]

Yep. My sister got a speeding ticket going to work this week on I 40 near Cookeville.

[Guest pfries]

Well I will be hunkered down, I avoid them and no not because I am afraid of or don’t like LEO’s or even that I am breaking the laws. 1 of the two times I was stopped in line for one of these I was rear ended by a drunk driver and my car was totaled . I know the irony of it all.

[wcsc12]

Well I will be hunkered down, I avoid them and no not because I am afraid of or don’t like LEO’s or even that I am breaking the laws. 1 of the two times I was stopped in line for one of these I was rear ended by a drunk driver and my car was totaled . I know the irony of it all.

I laughed and now I feel bad

I avoid them like the plague as well but I just don't like stopping and being harassed. If I'm breaking the law, by all means pull me over. If I'm not, leave me alone.

[daddyo]

I'm just wondering.... how many drunk drivers do they actually catch with this method?

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

Well I will be hunkered down, I avoid them and no not because I am afraid of or don’t like LEO’s or even that I am breaking the laws. 1 of the two times I was stopped in line for one of these I was rear ended by a drunk driver and my car was totaled . I know the irony of it all.

At least you didn't have to wait long for someone to respond to the accident scene.

[Guest BenderBendingRodriguez]

I'm just wondering.... how many drunk drivers do they actually catch with this method?

Ideally they wouldn't catch any. The goal is to scare the drunks into staying off the road, not to catch them once they're already on it.

[daddyo]

Ideally they wouldn't catch any. The goal is to scare the drunks into staying off the road, not to catch them once they're already on it.

I understand that, but what I'm interested in is how many they actually catch and arrest.

[mikegideon]

I'm just wondering when we'll have to get those tatoos, like in the movie Idiocracy. My billfold is wearing out by showing my papers all the time. it would be much easier with a barcode tatoo.

[Guest pfries]

At least you didn't have to wait long for someone to respond to the accident scene.

No not to long but they all scattered.....

[Guest Overtaker]

I understand that, but what I'm interested in is how many they actually catch and arrest.

According to an FBI study, significantly less than if they ran saturation patrols looking for swerving cars.

[daddyo]

According to an FBI study, significantly less than if they ran saturation patrols looking for swerving cars.

That's kinda what I figured.

[10-Ring]

I think they do it for publicity so the sheep will feel safe. Anyone with a little bit of common and local knowledge will know what roads they should stay off of if they have been drinking. (I'm not condoning drinking and driving.) If anything these road blocks probably catch not the habitual drunk but the professional that just left dinner and was headed home, but hey drinking and driving is drinking and driving. Every bar fly knows how to fly under the radar to get home.

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

I'm just wondering when we'll have to get those tatoos, like in the movie Idiocracy. My billfold is wearing out by showing my papers all the time. it would be much easier with a barcode tatoo.

With how fast this country is headed in that direction, it won't be long. However, if we stand up to the over-reaching federal and state governments. We can prevent that from happenning and restore the Republic to its glory instead of the laughing stock of the world.

[Guest pfries]

I think they do it for publicity so the sheep will feel safe. Anyone with a little bit of common and local knowledge will know what roads they should stay off of if they have been drinking. (I'm not condoning drinking and driving.) If anything these road blocks probably catch not the habitual drunk but the professional that just left dinner and was headed home, but hey drinking and driving is drinking and driving. Every bar fly knows how to fly under the radar to get home.

For publicity, to spend tax money, justify their jobs. Oh and of course public safety.

[mikegideon]

For publicity, to spend tax money, justify their jobs. Oh and of course public safety.

Naw... It's for the children

[Oh Shoot]

According to an FBI study, significantly less than if they ran saturation patrols looking for swerving cars.

If they simply targeted cars leaving bars at 2-3 am, they'd generally get one for each stop.

- OS

[TN-popo]

One cop's opinion...

I hate roadblocks, with the exception of exigent circumstances.

Traditionally, the level required by law for a LEO to step into your life is articulated Reasonable Suspicion (traffic stop, pedestrian stop, etc.). Terry vs Ohio is the classic caselaw regarding this. This is a good thing.

Roadblocks remove this requirement. Seatbelt violations, DUIs, etc.? Sorry, it's our job to develope Reasonable Suspicion and then go after stuff like this. Removing the Reasonable Suspicion requirement (via roadblock) is a classic example of the "slippery slope," IMO.

Oh, and an example of exigent circumstances? We had a kidnapped child from an apartment complex. A roadblock was setup at the entrance of the complex and mandatory vehicle searches were done on every vehicle leaving in order to find the child.

Exigent circumstances should be, and are, rare. All other reasons for roadblocks should be ruled unconstitutional.

I have never participated in a non-exigent circumstance roadblock.

Rant off.

Edited November 20, 2011 by TN-popo

[kb4ns]

One cop's opinion...

I hate roadblocks, with the exception of exigent circumstances.

Traditionally, the level required by law for a LEO to step into your life is articulated Reasonable Suspicion (traffic stop, pedestrian stop, etc.). Terry vs Ohio is the classic caselaw regarding this. This is a good thing.

Roadblocks remove this requirement. Seatbelt violations, DUIs, etc.? Sorry, it's our job to develope Reasonable Suspicion and then go after stuff like this. Removing the Reasonable Suspicion requirement (via roadblock) is a classic example of the "slippery slope," IMO.

Oh, and an example of exigent circumstances? We had a kidnapped child from an apartment complex. A roadblock was setup at the entrance of the complex and mandatory vehicle searches were done on every vehicle leaving in order to find the child.

Exigent circumstances should be, and are, rare. All other reasons for roadblocks should be ruled unconstitutional.

I have never participated in a non-exigent circumstance roadblock.

Rant off.

This.

[Guest lostpass]

If they simply targeted cars leaving bars at 2-3 am, they'd generally get one for each stop.

- OS

That is spot on. Put cruisers outside Cotton eyed joes and reel the drunks in faster than crappie in a stocked pond. But this is for show I suppose, not to make the streets safer.